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PasTim
2011-10-23, 08:55
I have been recording LPs at 24/96, converted to flac and tagged on my Windows 7 PC. Once scanned by SBS I want to play the tracks briefly on my PC, using the SBS web control interface, to check that I have edited the track breaks correctly, and set up the (mainly classical music) tags as I want.

However, it seems there is no software package that will play them on my PC. Squeezeplay and Softsqueeze won't do 24/96. Squeezeslave seemed to be the answer (provided I had the SBS file type for flac set to native), until I realised it was a full tone flat (not slow, just flat).

I don't need an SB device in the same room as my PC, just software that will allow me to briefly check all is well with the tracks I have recorded.

Other software will play the tracks, such as the excellent foobar2000, but because the treatment of tags is somewhat different I really want to play them using SBS.

I can temporarily set the file type for flac to be mp3, and use Squeezeplay (oddly Squeezeslave is still flat using this setting). I then forget to set it back, and when subsequently listening to my music properly start thinking there's something wrong with my set-up. I would, therefore, ideally like a answer that doesn't involve fiddling with settings.

Is there a solution?

Apesbrain
2011-10-23, 10:10
Just FYI, latest Squeezeplay plays 24/96 on my Win 7 laptop. Great FLAC tag checker/editor is Mp3tag; have used it for years with Squeezebox with good results. Full support for any tags you want including those mainly used with classical, e.g. COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR.

Mnyb
2011-10-23, 10:11
Now that is a good excuse to get a squeezebox radio :)

PasTim
2011-10-23, 10:28
Just FYI, latest Squeezeplay plays 24/96 on my Win 7 laptop. Great FLAC tag checker/editor is Mp3tag; have used it for years with Squeezebox with good results. Full support for any tags you want including those mainly used with classical, e.g. COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR.

Which version of Squeezeplay are you using? I've tried many times with no success, and been told elsewhere it can't play 24/96.

I use MP3tag as well - it does a very good job for me, including the addition of specialised tags for classical (WORK, MOVEMENT etc).

Mnyb
2011-10-23, 10:39
I does not really matter if it can't play 24/96 the server will transcode to 24/48 in the background, providing that you don't have some wierdo file types settings or custom transcoding rules that breaks this ability.

garym
2011-10-23, 10:40
Just FYI, latest Squeezeplay plays 24/96 on my Win 7 laptop. Great FLAC tag checker/editor is Mp3tag; have used it for years with Squeezebox with good results. Full support for any tags you want including those mainly used with classical, e.g. COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR.

agree. I'm using SqueezePlay on a Win7(64) Dell laptop and I just played a 24/96 song with no problem. Not sure which version of SqueezePlay other than from 7.6 and the "info" screen on SP shows 7.6.0. I recall that softsqueeze won't do 24/96 but that SqueezePlay has always been able to handle 24/96. Are you sure these are 24/96 and not 24/192?

For general playback on my computer, I actually use foobar2000. Plays about every type of codec there is and handles hirez files well. I use basic foobar2000 and the "facets" add-on to create an "itunes like" interface (menu scroll on genre/album/artist/track etc.). see pic.

p.s. Also a happy mp3tag user.

Mnyb
2011-10-23, 10:40
Squeezeslave is 44.1kHz only

PasTim
2011-10-23, 11:53
I does not really matter if it can't play 24/96 the server will transcode to 24/48 in the background, providing that you don't have some wierdo file types settings or custom transcoding rules that breaks this ability.
Ah ha! That fixes it. Thanks very much.

I was unaware that the server would transcode flac to suit different players. My flac file type is normally set at pcm (on advice on the audiophile thread - you can call that weird if you wish!). Squeezeplay is happy with this setting at CD quality but not 24/96.

Setting the file type to support flac 'native' does the job.

PasTim
2011-10-23, 12:00
agree. I'm using SqueezePlay on a Win7(64) Dell laptop and I just played a 24/96 song with no problem. Not sure which version of SqueezePlay other than from 7.6 and the "info" screen on SP shows 7.6.0. I recall that softsqueeze won't do 24/96 but that SqueezePlay has always been able to handle 24/96. Are you sure these are 24/96 and not 24/192?

For general playback on my computer, I actually use foobar2000. Plays about every type of codec there is and handles hirez files well. I use basic foobar2000 and the "facets" add-on to create an "itunes like" interface (menu scroll on genre/album/artist/track etc.).

p.s. Also a happy mp3tag user.

Thanks. It seems Squeezeplay doesn't support 24/96, but the server would have transcoded down if only I had let it do so.

As you say, foobar2000 is a great playback tool on a PC. Never having used itunes (I am i-allergic) I'm not sure what you mean about the interface, but I'll take a look at facets - it looks useful.

garym
2011-10-23, 12:05
Thanks. It seems Squeezeplay doesn't support 24/96, but the server would have transcoded down if only I had let it do so.

As you say, foobar2000 is a great playback tool on a PC. Never having used itunes (I am i-allergic) I'm not sure what you mean about the interface, but I'll take a look at facets - it looks useful.

essentially, download facets and put it in the right foobar directory, then you can do all sorts of things with it to make the interface very user friendly. info here:

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_facets

garym
2011-10-23, 12:07
Thanks. It seems Squeezeplay doesn't support 24/96, but the server would have transcoded down if only I had let it do so.

oops. i forgot that this might be going on....

PasTim
2011-10-23, 12:08
essentially, download facets and put it in the right foobar directory, then you can do all sorts of things with it to make the interface very user friendly. info here:

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_facets
Thanks.

PasTim
2011-10-23, 14:08
essentially, download facets and put it in the right foobar directory, then you can do all sorts of things with it to make the interface very user friendly. info here:

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_facets

Apologies - this is off-topic, and indeed off-forum, but is there an idiots guide to this? It may be that I'm just too thick to understand the documentation, but a lot of the instructions don't appear to apply (eg Add UI just doesn't appear anywhere I can find - Cut and Paste UI yes, Add no).

I can get the facet window up and configured. I can completely replace the playlist window with the facet one. I cannot, for the life of me, get both a playlist and facet window showing as you have done. There is talk of splitters, but I can't find any way to do so. What am I missing?

PasTim
2011-10-23, 14:15
Apologies - this is off-topic, and indeed off-forum, but is there an idiots guide to this? It may be that I'm just too thick to understand the documentation, but a lot of the instructions don't appear to apply (eg Add UI just doesn't appear anywhere I can find - Cut and Paste UI yes, Add no).

I can get the facet window up and configured. I can completely replace the playlist window with the facet one. I cannot, for the life of me, get both a playlist and facet window showing as you have done. There is talk of splitters, but I can't find any way to do so. What am I missing?

Apologies - I called for help too soon! Whilst the instructions do appear to be for another version, I found that by using 'Replace UI' I got a window up that included splitters.

I shall now attempt to refrain from discussing other products on this forum.

garym
2011-10-23, 14:20
Apologies - I called for help too soon! Whilst the instructions do appear to be for another version, I found that by using 'Replace UI' I got a window up that included splitters.

good, as it has been years ago that I set mine up. You somehow get into layout editing mode and then right click on various sections to create panes, split panes, etc.... it seems you're on the right track anyhow...

as much as I love foobar2000, it is almost proud of the fact that many things about it are not obvious to the new user. Foobar fans will argue that "no, it is really very simple interface right out of the box" and once I became familiar with how it all worked, this is true. Sorta like mp3tag: extremely powerful tagging program, but actions, etc. were all lost on me at first.

PasTim
2011-10-24, 01:40
Squeezeslave is 44.1kHz only
It intrigues me that Squeezeslave did play my 24/96 tracks but around a whole tone lower. I'm guessing that SBS downscaled the 24/96 to 16/48, and that the difference between 44.1 and 48 accounts for the change in pitch.

I may, of course, be completely wrong.

I don't mind admitting that when I first noticed the change in pitch I was somewhat panicked, thinking that maybe something in my recording chain was wrong for many dozens of LPs recorded on my system (anything from the record player itself, through wav editing to conversion to flac). I was much relieved to find it was squeezeslave itself.