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ja2038
2011-05-22, 01:54
I am having a problem listening to internet radio stations using the latest squeezebox server on a pretty fast desktop connecting to a squeezebox boom and a couple of squeezeplays (also the latest nightlies of squeezeplay)

The problem tends to be on AM Clearchannel Icecast Akamai stations, but sometimes it appears on all sorts of my stations.

I am using a COX cable connection, that is usually 12-30Mbps down and about 1M up. And usually stable.

What I see is that the player tries connecting. And after connecting, it will buffer 5%, buffer 7%, buffer 19%, ... connecting. Buffering 5%, buffering 7%, buffering 19%, connecting. It can do that all day.

SOMETIMES,

I can switch it to a more reliable station, wait a few seconds, and try again with the problematic station, and the problem station will connect just fine.

So I don't know who is responsible.

My desktop running squeezebox server,
One of my squeezeplayers
The squeezebox boom
My router
Cox
Akamai
Clearchannel
Osama Bin Laden

Has anyone seen anything like this before? How do I diagnose it, or better, fix it!?

toby10
2011-05-22, 04:26
MySB.com and/or RadioTime are having issues. I think RadioTime is changing their entire stream format so expect glitches.
Many have resolved these issues by running SBS server as you are doing (which isn't resolving it for you :().
Maybe try not running your software player? That might be contributing to your problem. Just a guess.

ja2038
2011-05-23, 00:41
Thanks,

Not sure how it related to radiotime....

This problem has occurred for months and months, but in recent weeks it occurs much more often.

bpa
2011-05-23, 01:10
Have you tried increasing Radio Station Buffer it is helpful if the station has a "lumpy" stream.
Increase WebUI Setting/Advanced Network/Radio Station Buffer and click Apply.

Another suggestion

If the stream is MP3 or WMA then the stream goes from station direct to Boom to be played. If the stream is MP3 or WMA then you can try getting SBS to proxy the stream and so the stream goes from station to PC and then to Boom so PC will do the networking handling.

Change WebUI Settings/Player/Audio/MP3 Streaming Methods/ to "Proxied Streaming" and click Apply.

Ignore the "MP3" IIRC it is true for both WMA and MP3

ms2011
2011-05-23, 04:29
Wouldn't speed in connection affect streaming of radio sound bytes? Once there's a minute drop in data speed I notice these sorts of problems myself.

pski
2011-05-23, 17:39
I am having a problem listening to internet radio stations using the latest squeezebox server on a pretty fast desktop connecting to a squeezebox boom and a couple of squeezeplays (also the latest nightlies of squeezeplay)

The problem tends to be on AM Clearchannel Icecast Akamai stations, but sometimes it appears on all sorts of my stations.

I am using a COX cable connection, that is usually 12-30Mbps down and about 1M up. And usually stable.

What I see is that the player tries connecting. And after connecting, it will buffer 5%, buffer 7%, buffer 19%, ... connecting. Buffering 5%, buffering 7%, buffering 19%, connecting. It can do that all day.

SOMETIMES,

I can switch it to a more reliable station, wait a few seconds, and try again with the problematic station, and the problem station will connect just fine.

So I don't know who is responsible.

My desktop running squeezebox server,
One of my squeezeplayers
The squeezebox boom
My router
Cox
Akamai
Clearchannel
Osama Bin Laden

Has anyone seen anything like this before? How do I diagnose it, or better, fix it!?

Having read nothing here, I have to recommend not running the "lastest squeezeplay" and expecting anything other than disappointment. Try turning that off first. (I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.)

P

Moffedille
2011-05-24, 02:00
The problem tends to be on AM Clearchannel Icecast Akamai stations, but sometimes it appears on all sorts of my stations.

I am using a COX cable connection, that is usually 12-30Mbps down and about 1M up. And usually stable.

What I see is that the player tries connecting. And after connecting, it will buffer 5%, buffer 7%, buffer 19%, ... connecting. Buffering 5%, buffering 7%, buffering 19%, connecting. It can do that all day.


Do you use your boom for playing stored music files as well? If so, do you also get these rebuffering issues when playing those? Many users have reported rebuffering problems with the latest (7.4 and 7.5) server versions. I usually got problems after some time, say half an hour of listening - and then it became impossible to listen to music.

I am now using server version 7.6, and haven't had any issues so far (although it is a bit early to tell yet).

ja2038
2011-05-26, 20:48
Have you tried increasing Radio Station Buffer it is helpful if the station has a "lumpy" stream.
Increase WebUI Setting/Advanced Network/Radio Station Buffer and click Apply.

Another suggestion

If the stream is MP3 or WMA then the stream goes from station direct to Boom to be played. If the stream is MP3 or WMA then you can try getting SBS to proxy the stream and so the stream goes from station to PC and then to Boom so PC will do the networking handling.

Change WebUI Settings/Player/Audio/MP3 Streaming Methods/ to "Proxied Streaming" and click Apply.

Ignore the "MP3" IIRC it is true for both WMA and MP3

So I've increased the station buffering, doubled it, and I'll take a look at what happens. I appreciate the second suggestion. I don't think it has an effect since I almost always have two sync'd players, and so it uses proxy streaming anyway.

Regardless, I found the description of how the connections are made informative, I've been wondering what goes directly to the player, and what is proxied through the server.

ja2038
2011-05-26, 20:53
Do you use your boom for playing stored music files as well? If so, do you also get these rebuffering issues when playing those? Many users have reported rebuffering problems with the latest (7.4 and 7.5) server versions. I usually got problems after some time, say half an hour of listening - and then it became impossible to listen to music.

I am now using server version 7.6, and haven't had any issues so far (although it is a bit early to tell yet).

Interesting. I am using a 7.5.4 - r version of the server. I mostly stream radio, at least, I haven't unpacked and reconnected my music library yet.

bpa
2011-05-27, 00:04
I almost always have two sync'd players,

Syncing with soft players often gives trouble in a variety of ways - IIRC one user had lots of rebuffering messages.

Since soft players only have MP3 and Flac native - all other formats will be transcoded into Flac - this will lead to increased sever and network load. If all players are on wireless connections you may be getting network issues with say 3 streams of Flac.

I suggest checking if you get the buffering messages with just Boom playing and no players synced.