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Nick_G
2011-05-20, 15:56
I'm trying to get the 128k WMA stream of Radio Rotana from Jordan to stream via the Squeezebox Touch. Here's the link:

mms://stream.rotanaradio.fm/rotanahifi

It plays with no problems using VLC on my Mac but if I try to play it on the Squeezebox I get a '403 Forbidden' error.

Any ideas please? Can I tweak the url to make it work?

Thanks,
Nick

copperstate
2011-05-21, 03:34
This url should work:

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s93633

I found it by searching for rotana in the sbs web ui (internet radio/search) btw. :)

Nick_G
2011-05-21, 06:19
This url should work:

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s93633

I found it by searching for rotana in the sbs web ui (internet radio/search) btw. :)

Thanks.

I was hoping to get the 128k WMA stream as it's stereo and would sound much better on the hi-fi system.

Why does it not work on the Squeezebox but work fine on VLC?

Nick_G
2011-05-24, 13:25
Anyone please?

Nick_G
2011-05-28, 07:25
And here's another stream with the same problem: plays fine using VLC on the Mac but comes up with a '503 Service Unavailable' error on the Squeezebox:

mms://80.249.69.45/radio chlef

Is this something to do with the space in the 'radio chlef' part of the url?

bpa
2011-05-28, 07:55
No it is nothing to do with the space. However the "radio chef" issue is different but similar to the previous issue.

The radio chef issue is die to the fact it is only work with the "mms" transport protocol (not to be confused with mms://) and not http protocol. MMS has been deprecated by Microsoft for about 6 yrs now and even WMP does not support it (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771761(WS.10).aspx ). The "mms" protocol is not supported by SBS - you can get play it if you install the PlayWMA plugin with right version of mplayer for your server and then disable "native" WMA.

The station should just enable http streaming (usually a check box tick) and stop using "dead" protocols.

I'm not sure what is wrong with the other URL - AFAICT it is not the mms issue but possible a codec one but PlayWMA plugin will also work for it.

Nick_G
2011-05-28, 08:22
No it is nothing to do with the space. However the "radio chef" issue is different but similar to the previous issue.

The radio chef issue is die to the fact it is only work with the "mms" transport protocol (not to be confused with mms://) and not http protocol. MMS has been deprecated by Microsoft for about 6 yrs now and even WMP does not support it (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771761(WS.10).aspx ). The "mms" protocol is not supported by SBS - you can get play it if you install the PlayWMA plugin with right version of mplayer for your server and then disable "native" WMA.

The station should just enable http streaming (usually a check box tick) and stop using "dead" protocols.

I'm not sure what is wrong with the other URL - AFAICT it is not the mms issue but possible a codec one but PlayWMA plugin will also work for it.

Thanks for the help on this. I'm slightly confused: what's the difference between the mms on this stream and the other streams starting 'mms://', all of which play with no problems at all on the Squeezebox?

Will installing the PlayWMA plugin affect the playback of other WMA streams? I hope not as I have several saved on my Favourites.

bpa
2011-05-28, 08:54
Thanks for the help on this. I'm slightly confused: what's the difference between the mms on this stream and the other streams starting 'mms://', all of which play with no problems at all on the Squeezebox?

You need to read the Microsoft page but in a nutshell.

mms:// used to mean the mms protocol. Then Microsoft started using http - so they said mms:// means try http protocol and then try mms protocol. Then Microsoft said - we have new protocol rtsp and we also deprecate mms so every body should use http:// for your URLs - but users didn't so Microsoft then said - use mms:// but then servers will try rtsp and then http.

So now users should use mms:// in front of URLs if they want to use http protocol - classic Microsoft nonsense.


Will installing the PlayWMA plugin affect the playback of other WMA streams? I hope not as I have several saved on my Favourites.
Yes - all stream and files will be transcoded using mplayer on the server and sent using Flac to players. You will not hear any difference but IIRC will lose ffw/rew on files.

The problem is with the station. You should contact the station and complain they are using a deprecated no longer supported protocol.