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bobkoure
2011-03-23, 10:52
SALE OVER

If you're looking for a decent sized Android tablet to control your SBS (or whatever reason) this one's a decent deal. It's a ViewSonic gTablet 10.1" Multi-touch. It's at woot.com, but only today as they just do one-day deals.
There are a couple of custom ROMs available (I've been looking at the Cyanogen one). No idea if it'll get the upcoming Android tablet ROM (screen might not have enough pixels). Lots of good info (and useless blather) in the forum at woot.

I've been starting in on Android coding, and this is as cheap as the second hand phones I was looking at, so I snapped one up (well 'snapped' being a relative thing, woot sometimes takes 5 days to ship).
I'll also use it to control by SB server. It occurred to me that some other folks here might also be interested in using one for that purpose, so I thought I'd comment.

Admins: please feel free to delete this in a bit as it's not useful info as of, well, 3/24...

Oh - I don't feel so bad for having missed the weekend deal on Duets now...

Bob

peterw
2011-03-23, 16:15
No idea if it'll get the upcoming Android tablet ROM (screen might not have enough pixels).

Considering there's already been a port of the Honeycomb preview to the Nook Color (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995), which has the same screen resolution as the gTablet, I'm hopeful. (This morning I, too, was --as they say-- "in for one.")

bobkoure
2011-03-24, 06:26
Stuff you've probably already found
Viewsonic page (http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/)
url=http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-Tablet-Case-Keyboard-Stand/dp/B004JF9N1O]case with keyboard[/url]
dock (http://www.ankaka.com/malata-zpad-dock-docking-station-for-malata-zpad-t2-hdmi-output-usb-lan-port_p47889.html)

how to root your g-tablet (http://droidpirate.com/2010/11/27/how-to-root-your-viewsonic-g-tablet/)

XDA forum(s) on the g-tablet (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=841)

Got any thought on ROMs? Consensus of what I've read so far is that the stock ROM (Tap n Tap) is a major disappointment and should be replaced ASAP.

I'm reading positive things about the Vegan ROM, which, I gather, is a mod of the ROM for the Vega - this same tablet as marketed by Malata.

to quote someone who's using one


Ok, from someone who owns and uses one with a VEGAn ROM daily - to recap:

Amazon Appstore = yes
Youtube = yes
Netflix = yes
Android Market = yes
USB = Yes
Micro-SDHC = yes
HDMI = yes
Flash = yes
Bluetooth = yes
ALL ebook reader programs = yes
Honeycomb upgradeable = YES!
Android phone tether = yes
Use Office docs = yes
Smoother and faster than ipad = YES!!!


Usually I get buyers remorse about now, but not this time...

peterw
2011-03-26, 05:49
Got any thought on ROMs? Consensus of what I've read so far is that the stock ROM (Tap n Tap) is a major disappointment and should be replaced ASAP.

I'm reading positive things about the Vegan ROM, which, I gather, is a mod of the ROM for the Vega - this same tablet as marketed by Malata.

vegantab is how I'm leaning, though I'm going to look again and see which of the gTablet ROMs have source & build instructions, as I'd prefer something I can modify & rebuild myself.


Usually I get buyers remorse about now, but not this time...

Well, there have been some stories about Google withholding the final 3.0 source for a while. Some stories suggest they might start holding back releases (release N.M source only after releasing N.(M+1) privately to licensees, e.g. no public Honeycomb 3.0 source until Ice Cream 3.1 is out), while others suggest it's a one-time delay, as they add code to Honeycomb to make it work well on phone-sized devices. Either way, it looks like we users of non-Xoom tabs might have to choose between Gingerbread and a (buggy? insecure?) preview of Honeycomb. Since I have seen signs that Google, much like Slim Devices / Logitech, actually wants code contributions from the community, so I think it's most likely a one-time holdback; there wouldn't be much sense in accepting patches for old code.

sander
2011-03-26, 10:46
What is the minimal version of Android necessary to offer a decent interface with Squeeze (either by app or web)?

Android has eaten away at the low-end of hardware touch screens, removing any interest I had in Chumby or wifi photo frames. But its clear that most of these devices are premature and most likely junk.

If I could get something that could interface with Squeeze and XBMC that would be great.

TIA

flattermann
2011-03-26, 20:42
What is the minimal version of Android necessary to offer a decent interface with Squeeze (either by app or web)?

Android has eaten away at the low-end of hardware touch screens, removing any interest I had in Chumby or wifi photo frames. But its clear that most of these devices are premature and most likely junk.

If I could get something that could interface with Squeeze and XBMC that would be great.

TIA

I'd recommend Android 2.2 (Froyo), because it's much faster than the older versions.

For the hardware:
You should definitely take a look at any Android device before you actually buy it.
There are many crap products in the Markets. :-(
Take a look at the screen quality, the speed of the UI and maybe read some tests in the internet about the battery life.

toby10
2011-03-27, 03:56
.....
There are many crap products in the Markets. :-(
Take a look at the screen quality, the speed of the UI and maybe read some tests in the internet about the battery life.

Just yesterday I saw a Sylvania brand Android Tablet being sold at a national chain drug store for $99. Like anything, you get what you pay for. ;)

bobkoure
2011-04-03, 06:16
Well... some of them ended up cheap(er) because there's something wrong/limiting that the end user can fix.
In the case of the g-tablet, it's screen angle (not fixable) and bad UI (fixable with replacement ROM, although Viewsonic's got a much better one available now). The other hardware bits are pretty good - very zippy once re-ROMed.
Ditto the Nook color: Limited, slow hardware (not fixable) and ROM making it an e-reader only.

The g-tablet's got the advantage of being unlocked. I followed this (http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=442691#post442691) set of instructions to upgrade to TnT Lite. The whole process took maybe 40 minutes; would have been faster but the downloads took a bit. TnT Lite gets you an everything-works ROM with cruft cut out (faster) and a fairly stock Android experience. It's pre-rooted, so things like sideloading (open an apk with the file browser to install an app) just work. And the market app's already installed (happy figuring out what apps you want!)

The Nook's a bit fussier to upgrade; I'd just about decided to buy one and try re-ROMing it when the Woot deal showed up.One deciding factor is that there's a large community around the g-tab (one of the reasons I went with Squeeze, way back when)

BTW, it looks like it's going to be quite a while before Honeycomb becomes available as Google's put a hold on releasing the source to the world, so custom ROM builders haven't even seen it. Viewsonic/Malata's in a funny position as they're not part of the Open Handset Alliance (they don't make phones) so it's not even clear that they have access - so there probably won't be similar hardware from Malata with Honeycomb (which might be re-targeted). On the other hand, it's a tegra2, so it'll definitely be fast enough if/when.

If you haven't found it, there's a great set of g-tablet forums over at XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=841).

sander
2011-04-12, 11:14
How about this one:
http://www.electronics-expo.com/make-a-store/item/ACH50171410/Archos/50171410/1.html

Archos Arnova - 169$
10" with 2.2

bobkoure
2011-04-19, 17:06
It's certainly cheap enough.

I considered an Archos internet tablet some while back, but got scared off by all the negative comments in the user forums (which I found as part of researching the device and didn't save).
They may have improved, and they may just have a bunch of whiny users.

I would suggest that you think a couple of times about a tablet as large as 10". It turns out to be inconveniently large for a tablet, even though that's absurdly small for a win/lin screen. FWIW, I'm considering selling my g-tab and getting something smaller (maybe a nook color that I can re-ROM as I now realize I don't care that much about performance.)

I'd also suggest you stick to devices that have a community and that are supported by at least one alternative ROM. Otherwise you're stuck with whatever modifications the manufacturer shipped it with.