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2011-03-15, 23:41
Am just moving to a new house where I will have a wireless N band router. I have a Duet and a Radio (and previously had a G band router). Will the SBoxes
work automatically on the N band or will I need to make any adjustments to the router?

Also, as the point of having N band is to increase range (to reach to the bottom of the new garden) is there any way of 'upgrading' the Radio to work on the stronger N band?

Thanks for any thoughts

2011-03-16, 00:03
You need to adjust the router to use G compatible mode.

2011-03-16, 01:06
There is no easy way of updating the SB players network cards from G to N.
I would guess you would see some extended range benefit on G devices connected to an N router.

2011-03-16, 05:49
N routers, at least the ones with 3 antennas, do multipath, so I imagine those would help with G clients.

If you need N, and I'd assume you need it for the range as you certainly don't need the data rate for a SB, you can get a dd-wrt capable router that does N, install dd-wrt, put it into 'bridge' mode, and wire it to your SB.

2011-03-16, 06:10
Also, as the point of having N band is to increase range (to reach to the bottom of the new garden) is there any way of 'upgrading' the Radio to work on the stronger N band?
This article in the wiki may be of interest, especially question #3: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Networks#Wireless_performance_o n_Mixed_B.2FG.2FN_networks:_Answers.21

In short, upgrading the Radio to N is not something an ordinary user can do, as it involves not only replacing the physical card, but also figuring out the drivers for a new N card in the Radio's very customized Linux environment. But the Radio can benefit from the N router/AP even while operating as a G device.

2011-03-16, 06:53
At this point I don't understand why they don't incorporate 802.11n into the Squeezebox line. It isn't all that more expensive, and pretty mature by now. I have a SBR on the way, and am running only 802.11n my Wi-Fi network (all my other SQ units are hard wired), so I'm going to have to fire up the G radio in the gateway. No big deal, but I would be curious as to why no "N" in the current products.

2011-03-16, 07:17
Don't forget that all the models of SB current for sale were designed at least two years ago (most of them longer ago than that). Your statements about N being cheap and mature weren't true back then.

2011-03-16, 07:30
Yes all existing sb models was designed before the N standard was finalized .
So all that existed then was N-draft hardware.

I assume that if a new product was designed they consider it.

Wonder if not the new products have onboard wifi chipset and not removable. So existing hardware is what it is.

2011-03-19, 13:37
The 802.11n standard supports two frequency bands - 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz. The Squeezebox devices are 802.11g which works in the 2.4 GHz band. Most 802.11n routers support 2.4 GHz while there some that are some dual band devices that support 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz. There are a small number of 802.11n router that are 5 GHz only, so make sure you avoid one of those. All 802.11n 2.4 GHz-only and dual band routers support compatibility with 802.11g.

2011-03-19, 14:08
If extended range is the primary reason for switching over to the N router, consider getting a wireless extender.

2011-03-21, 18:35
Most N capable routers have much better range than earlier B/G routers. With my router where it is I can run my SB3 in the neighbor 2 doors down garage with no problems.
Wireless networks biggest enemy is lots of metal and big solid objects between you and the router. Having your router near or in front of a window that faces your garden will probably yield excellent results at the bottom of the garden, even with wireless G.