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Christopher May
2004-09-19, 11:30
Steven,

I had the same questions and here is what I did...

I don't know which playlists the slimserver will see, it will either see
all of them, or only the ones under the user that installed slimsever.

As for multiple computers, what you have to do is consolidate your music
into on place/music library, under one user. That is where the
slimserver is going to look for the music files. There are ways to make
symbolic links inside the library, but I just bought a large external
drive, put all my music on that, and told iTunes where to place its
library (on the external HD).

Then you can use the iTunes sharing feature to access the music from any
other computer. You can export other users' playlists and put them back
into the main users iTunes.

Then the squeezebox will see ALL the music and playlists, and everybody
can see al the music.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven Moore
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:17 AM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] 2 macs with router


This has probably been answered before so apologies if it has.

I was thinking of buying a squeezebox for my home network, 2 macs, adsl
router all wired. There are four accounts on each computer with
different itunes playlists on each. Squeezebox would be connected to
the router.

I was wondering how does the squeezebox know which itunes playlist to
play. For example say I wanted to play music from my itunes playlist in
my account on computer A, Then my daughter wanted to play music from
her playlist in her account on computer A. Then my wife wanted to play
music from her account on computer B? How does this work?
Do you have to change this using the server software.?
Can you change the source from the squeezebox?
Can all playlists i.e all the music on both computers be available all
the time?
Also the music for computer A is on a firewire external drive, is this
okay?

Thanks for any help, I hope my explanation was clear.

Steven Moore

Steven Moore
2004-09-20, 02:14
Thanks for the reply.

I will give it a try when I get the squeezebox. I was trying to find a
way keeping the music separated. Maybe installing the server on the two
computers might work? I will see when I get it and find the best way.

Steven Moore.

On 19 Sep 2004, at 7:30 pm, Christopher May wrote:

> Steven,
>
> I had the same questions and here is what I did...
>
> I don't know which playlists the slimserver will see, it will either
> see
> all of them, or only the ones under the user that installed slimsever.
>
> As for multiple computers, what you have to do is consolidate your
> music
> into on place/music library, under one user. That is where the
> slimserver is going to look for the music files. There are ways to make
> symbolic links inside the library, but I just bought a large external
> drive, put all my music on that, and told iTunes where to place its
> library (on the external HD).
>
> Then you can use the iTunes sharing feature to access the music from
> any
> other computer. You can export other users' playlists and put them back
> into the main users iTunes.
>
> Then the squeezebox will see ALL the music and playlists, and everybody
> can see al the music.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven
> Moore
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:17 AM
> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] 2 macs with router
>
>
> This has probably been answered before so apologies if it has.
>
> I was thinking of buying a squeezebox for my home network, 2 macs, adsl
> router all wired. There are four accounts on each computer with
> different itunes playlists on each. Squeezebox would be connected to
> the router.
>
> I was wondering how does the squeezebox know which itunes playlist to
> play. For example say I wanted to play music from my itunes playlist in
> my account on computer A, Then my daughter wanted to play music from
> her playlist in her account on computer A. Then my wife wanted to play
> music from her account on computer B? How does this work?
> Do you have to change this using the server software.?
> Can you change the source from the squeezebox?
> Can all playlists i.e all the music on both computers be available all
> the time?
> Also the music for computer A is on a firewire external drive, is this
> okay?
>
> Thanks for any help, I hope my explanation was clear.
>
> Steven Moore
>
>

Healy
2004-09-20, 11:36
Steven,

To the best of my knowledge, you can't run 2 slim servers and 1
squeezebox at the same time. I've got a similar setup as you describe
and I ended up consolidating all my music onto a Linux Server. I had
iTunes store it's library on the server (via symbolic links to network
mounted drive). That way all my accounts on the various boxes all look
in the same place for my music. I have over 20,000 songs so any other
way would be a bit
too much to manage :)

BTW:
I'm not sure if you are aware but you can not natively play any music
bought via itunes store on the slimserver because of the copy
protection setup. You'll have to burn it to disc, & re-rip it if you
want to do that. Just a heads up.



On Sep 20, 2004, at 2:14 AM, Steven Moore wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I will give it a try when I get the squeezebox. I was trying to find a
> way keeping the music separated. Maybe installing the server on the
> two computers might work? I will see when I get it and find the best
> way.
>
> Steven Moore.
>
> On 19 Sep 2004, at 7:30 pm, Christopher May wrote:
>
>> Steven,
>>
>> I had the same questions and here is what I did...
>>
>> I don't know which playlists the slimserver will see, it will either
>> see
>> all of them, or only the ones under the user that installed slimsever.
>>
>> As for multiple computers, what you have to do is consolidate your
>> music
>> into on place/music library, under one user. That is where the
>> slimserver is going to look for the music files. There are ways to
>> make
>> symbolic links inside the library, but I just bought a large external
>> drive, put all my music on that, and told iTunes where to place its
>> library (on the external HD).
>>
>> Then you can use the iTunes sharing feature to access the music from
>> any
>> other computer. You can export other users' playlists and put them
>> back
>> into the main users iTunes.
>>
>> Then the squeezebox will see ALL the music and playlists, and
>> everybody
>> can see al the music.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven
>> Moore
>> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:17 AM
>> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> Subject: [slim] 2 macs with router
>>
>>
>> This has probably been answered before so apologies if it has.
>>
>> I was thinking of buying a squeezebox for my home network, 2 macs,
>> adsl
>> router all wired. There are four accounts on each computer with
>> different itunes playlists on each. Squeezebox would be connected to
>> the router.
>>
>> I was wondering how does the squeezebox know which itunes playlist to
>> play. For example say I wanted to play music from my itunes playlist
>> in
>> my account on computer A, Then my daughter wanted to play music from
>> her playlist in her account on computer A. Then my wife wanted to
>> play
>> music from her account on computer B? How does this work?
>> Do you have to change this using the server software.?
>> Can you change the source from the squeezebox?
>> Can all playlists i.e all the music on both computers be available all
>> the time?
>> Also the music for computer A is on a firewire external drive, is this
>> okay?
>>
>> Thanks for any help, I hope my explanation was clear.
>>
>> Steven Moore
>>
>>

Daniel Cohen
2004-09-20, 13:46
On 20/9/04 at 11:36 am -0700, Healy wrote
>To the best of my knowledge, you can't run 2 slim servers and 1
>squeezebox at the same time.

I wonder how many people would want to do this. I wouldn't need it
myself, but it seems to me that it might be worth asking for it as a
feature.
--
Daniel Cohen

Steven Moore
2004-09-20, 14:32
Yes I think that is the way to go. From Chris's and your replies I
think one large music file is the answer. Maybe in a future release of
the server software/firmware you may be allowed to choose playlists etc
using the remote (listening developers), or maybe that's impossible I
don't know.
Now I just have to convince my wife that we need one of these devices
urgently ;-).

On 20 Sep 2004, at 7:36 pm, Healy wrote:

> Steven,
>
> To the best of my knowledge, you can't run 2 slim servers and 1
> squeezebox at the same time. I've got a similar setup as you describe
> and I ended up consolidating all my music onto a Linux Server. I had
> iTunes store it's library on the server (via symbolic links to network
> mounted drive). That way all my accounts on the various boxes all
> look in the same place for my music. I have over 20,000 songs so any
> other way would be a bit
> too much to manage :)
>
> BTW:
> I'm not sure if you are aware but you can not natively play any music
> bought via itunes store on the slimserver because of the copy
> protection setup. You'll have to burn it to disc, & re-rip it if you
> want to do that. Just a heads up.
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2004, at 2:14 AM, Steven Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> I will give it a try when I get the squeezebox. I was trying to find
>> a way keeping the music separated. Maybe installing the server on the
>> two computers might work? I will see when I get it and find the best
>> way.
>>
>> Steven Moore.
>>
>> On 19 Sep 2004, at 7:30 pm, Christopher May wrote:
>>
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> I had the same questions and here is what I did...
>>>
>>> I don't know which playlists the slimserver will see, it will either
>>> see
>>> all of them, or only the ones under the user that installed
>>> slimsever.
>>>
>>> As for multiple computers, what you have to do is consolidate your
>>> music
>>> into on place/music library, under one user. That is where the
>>> slimserver is going to look for the music files. There are ways to
>>> make
>>> symbolic links inside the library, but I just bought a large external
>>> drive, put all my music on that, and told iTunes where to place its
>>> library (on the external HD).
>>>
>>> Then you can use the iTunes sharing feature to access the music from
>>> any
>>> other computer. You can export other users' playlists and put them
>>> back
>>> into the main users iTunes.
>>>
>>> Then the squeezebox will see ALL the music and playlists, and
>>> everybody
>>> can see al the music.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven
>>> Moore
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:17 AM
>>> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>> Subject: [slim] 2 macs with router
>>>
>>>
>>> This has probably been answered before so apologies if it has.
>>>
>>> I was thinking of buying a squeezebox for my home network, 2 macs,
>>> adsl
>>> router all wired. There are four accounts on each computer with
>>> different itunes playlists on each. Squeezebox would be connected to
>>> the router.
>>>
>>> I was wondering how does the squeezebox know which itunes playlist to
>>> play. For example say I wanted to play music from my itunes playlist
>>> in
>>> my account on computer A, Then my daughter wanted to play music from
>>> her playlist in her account on computer A. Then my wife wanted to
>>> play
>>> music from her account on computer B? How does this work?
>>> Do you have to change this using the server software.?
>>> Can you change the source from the squeezebox?
>>> Can all playlists i.e all the music on both computers be available
>>> all
>>> the time?
>>> Also the music for computer A is on a firewire external drive, is
>>> this
>>> okay?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help, I hope my explanation was clear.
>>>
>>> Steven Moore
>>>
>>>

Steven Moore
2004-09-21, 02:51
I am no developer but:
I think the best solution could be to use Rendezvous. At the setup
stage the server would search the network and list all itunes
playlists. From here you could delete playlists from the list. The
user controlling Squeezebox then would be able to select a
computer/playlist combination via the remote.
Where do you make suggestions for new features?

Steven Moore.

On 20 Sep 2004, at 9:46 pm, Daniel Cohen wrote:

> On 20/9/04 at 11:36 am -0700, Healy wrote
>> To the best of my knowledge, you can't run 2 slim servers and 1
>> squeezebox at the same time.
>
> I wonder how many people would want to do this. I wouldn't need it
> myself, but it seems to me that it might be worth asking for it as a
> feature.
> --
> Daniel Cohen
>