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ModelCitizen
2011-02-07, 01:10
I used to have a pretty reliable SqueezeBox Server set up.
However since I've installed 7.5.3 I find my players disconnect sporadically (the Boom is particularly susceptible and requires a reboot to get it reconnected) and my Radio's alarm has become very unreliable. I almost always get the backup alarm now and it sort of stutters. Once or twice the backup alarm has appeared to fire but there's only been silence.

Anyone else notice a degradation in reliability since 7.5.3?

This on Windows 7.

NC

toby10
2011-02-07, 05:00
Others have brought this up with similar 7.5.3 connection issues. It seems to me to be very prevalent with Win7 or Vista or WHS.
I have not experienced this on 7.5.3 with XP.

Roll back to 7.5.2 seems to correct the issue.

ModelCitizen
2011-02-07, 05:04
Cheers Toby.
It's back to 7.5.2 for me then.

MC

Richie
2011-02-07, 10:53
I've been using the 7.5.3 nightlies on WHS and not had any problems.

Richard

Chewie
2011-02-07, 11:16
I've had problems with my Transporter and SB3 running via the WHS version. I upgraded and from then on kept getting the message "Can't connect to server.Left to go back, right to try again." This message would appear for 30 seconds and then return to the normal display, then 30 seconds later the whole process starts again and again for 5 minutes. This would happen once or twice an hour.

I've never had a single problem before, my signal strength for the Transporter is 90% plus and 95% plus for the SB3.

Downgraded to 7.5.2 and the problem has gone away.

Sike
2011-02-07, 12:49
A Windows 2003 Server user here with issues!

martin_sv
2011-02-07, 13:31
Previous versions of the squeezeserver software certainly have had their share of issues but 7.53 is the first ever to crash whilst in use and playing music. It's occurred about 6 or 7 times after my upgrade less than 3 weeks ago. Also I get the "failed to connect to server message" appearing and music stopping on 4/5 occasions. It then reconnects without user intervention within a minute or so. I only upgraded to 7.53 because the sb3 would go blank when trying to access mysb.com as I prefer to stay with what is working OK. ie older versions. So going back to 7.5.2 doesn't seem an option. Is this the appropriate place to inform logitech of these issues?

garym
2011-02-07, 14:07
So going back to 7.5.2 doesn't seem an option. Is this the appropriate place to inform logitech of these issues?

here's 7.5.2, and the official logitech forum link for informing them.

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.2/
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/bd-p/mysqueezebox

ModelCitizen
2011-02-07, 14:54
Hmmm.
I've now twice installed 7.5.2 over 7.5.3 but SBS still reports that 7.5.3 is installed. :-(

MC

nicolas75
2011-02-07, 14:55
Same thing for me.

I have a squeezebox touch, mostly used with Squeezecenter running on Windows XP SP3, or with mysqueezebox.com for radio streams when I turn off the computer (or don't want to run squeezecenter).

The touch is wired to the router.
The first day using 7.5.3 (official one) was so awful that I was about to revert to 7.5.2
I was listening to a radio stream, and it stopped every ten minutes or so.
Things are better now, but I still have problems.

Sometimes, playing still just stops, which is much worse than the rebuffering problems I sometimes had with 7.5.2.
At least, after rebuffering, music started again.

I use alarm, but I always have also a a "real" alarm clock to be sure to wake up.
Touch's alarm function is definitly not reliable.

It seems to me that for strange reason, when I usually had a rebuffering with 7.5.2, the 7.5.3 now simply decide to stop playing.

Mushroom_3
2011-02-07, 15:46
I can only agree with ModelCitizen and I am surprised that it has taken this long for anyone to bring it up. I just assumed it was me and I wrestled with the problems for several days before reverting to 7.5.2. All is much better but my Radio is still saying it's using 7.5.3 (although it still works).

Yet another partially tested Slim update is allowed out the door. So sad.

My set up: W7 Radio,Touch,Boom,Duet with 2 receivers and an SB3.

ModelCitizen
2011-02-07, 16:12
It's Logitech, not Slim. :-)

MC

Mushroom_3
2011-02-08, 02:39
My mistake - old habits etc...

ModelCitizen
2011-02-08, 02:45
Well my "supposedly 7.5.2 but advertises itself as 7.5.3" Squeezebox server failed to make the radio play my chosen alarm this morning so I received the intensely aggravating default loop instead. I am now concerned that I am not running 7.5.2 or that something else has changed.

MC

atrocity
2011-02-08, 18:24
Anyone else notice a degradation in reliability since 7.5.3?

This on Windows 7.

I have one instance on native Ubuntu 10.04 and am seeing:

1. Squeezebox 3 looks fine...I turn it on and try to go to the library. I immediately get the "Can't connect to server..." message. It eventually goes away and everything works fine, as far as I can tell. I have not noticed issues once music from my library is playing, but I'm usually playing it while I fall asleep, so I could be missing something.

2. Alarm doesn't work with a dynamic playlist, I just get the beep-beep-beep backup.

3. Radio Paradise seems to go silent fairly frequently.

I have another instance running on Ubuntu 10.10 in VMware under Windows 7 and am seeing:

1. Same "Can't connect..." issue as above.

2. I use this instance almost exclusively to play "never played albums" via dynamic playlists/custom skip. I've twice had it add a new album to the playlist, immediately jump to the last track and stop without adding anything new.

I have not had a problem with either instance when I specifically select and play an album or track...typing this while listening to a Touch right now without issue.

Jcharmella
2011-02-08, 19:59
I get the same thing. The last time it happened, I looked at my server log and got the following:
Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_player s_error (308) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor, retrying in 300 seconds

Anyone else getting this 308 error?

Archer_11
2011-02-10, 04:19
A Windows 2003 Server user here with issues!

+1

So glad I've seen this thread. I've got a one year old and I don't have time to troubleshoot like I used to and I thought it was just some random issue. Hopefully it gets fixed real soon.

AllenCk
2011-02-12, 09:46
I was having problems with 7.5.3 on WHS like Chewie was having. I found that SBS on the server was pegging the CPU for 30 seconds or so repeatedly. After trying to reinstall the software and the beta version, I finally cleared the cache and preferences and the problem disappeared. Only downside was that I had to reenter my favorites and preferences.

ModelCitizen
2011-02-13, 04:04
Even though I've reverted to 7.5.2 (I think, still announcing itself as 7.5.3 though) I still find that my Classic and Boom regularly become become disconnected from my SqueezeCentre and require a reboot to connect. The other players (Radio, Touch... am not entirely certain of the Receiver) seem to be OK.

MC

GeeJay
2011-02-13, 11:36
I'm having issues, too, but mine seem to be wifi related. Frequent drop-outs originating from synced wireless units. I moved one and unsyced the other, and the problem disappeared.

jimzak
2011-02-13, 15:44
I was about to chime in and say that all was well.

However, it's not all well.

I had some unusual rebuffering issues with Last.fm and Live365 that I have not experienced before.

But mine may be due to some flakiness with my internet connection that appears to be recurrent.

aubuti
2011-02-13, 17:33
I've recently noticed some weirdness with 7.5.3, but haven't been able to reproduce it reliably.

1) getting occasional brief (< 1 second) dropouts when streaming FLAC over wired ethernet. Usually it occurs in the last 30 seconds or so of a track. Once it starts doing it the dropouts occur more frequently. Sometimes transitions to new tracks aren't smooth either, as if the new track starts too soon. If I restart SBS these problems go away.

2) Last night I had an SB2 and Touch (both wired) sync'd, and suddenly the SB2 stopped playing. Again, everything was fine after restarting SBS.

Still need to try to isolate problems and check logs.

JJZolx
2011-02-13, 17:39
I'm still seeing a lot of scrolling problems on my SB2 when it's synced with other players.

paulster
2011-02-13, 19:52
I keep finding problems with the CPU being pegged at 100% on internet radio either when starting FAAD/FLAC or when synchronizing, so I've gone back to 7.5.2.

Haven't had to revert to an older version from a 'stable' release before.

RonM
2011-02-14, 10:32
Well, for what it's worth, I finally upgraded to 7.5.3 r31792 yesterday and have been having no problems of any sort.

I am running this as vanilla as it is possible to do. SBS is running on my little Acer Netbook, and connecting via WIFI directly to my Boom across an "ad hoc" Win7 network. There is nothing else on the network, and no router involved. I'm on vacation, and this is my music source.

Assuming my problem-free status continues, this implies that the issues folks are having relate to more involved elements of their setup.

R.

paulster
2011-02-14, 10:52
Assuming my problem-free status continues, this implies that the issues folks are having relate to more involved elements of their setup.
I think that's right. Your particular usage pattern probably doesn't trigger the problems that some of us are seeing.

The two things I've noticed that can trigger it are synchronization, which you are not using with one player, and transcoded internet radio which you may or may not be using.

This is actually the first time I've had to revert to an earlier version, running every version since 7.2, and doing so has restored the stability. It's not like I run a particularly convoluted setup - I have a Debian Linux machine dedicated to Squeezebox Server with as minimal a Linux installation as possible and wired ethernet to all my players.

TheLastMan
2011-02-15, 07:41
I am having problems with one Receiver but not with the other. The one with problems keeps losing the server and cycles between the yellow light and blue light roughly every 10 seconds. A server reboot will fix this but it starts again after a few hours.

Thinking of reverting to 7.5.1 which was the last stable release available for the Synology. It worked fine - I have no idea why I bothered to upgrade. It wasn't broke, yet I still decided to fix it. Doh!

Marslo
2011-02-15, 15:09
I've noted a number of discussions surrounding problems with this version on Win 7 similar to what I am experiencing. The solution seems to be to roll back to 7.5.2 but I am not sure how to accomplish that.

Can anyone help?

garym
2011-02-15, 15:28
I've noted a number of discussions surrounding problems with this version on Win 7 similar to what I am experiencing. The solution seems to be to roll back to 7.5.2 but I am not sure how to accomplish that.

Can anyone help?

download and install 7.5.2 (windows executable) from here:

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.2/

you shouldn't need to uninstall 7.5.3, just install on top.... when you connect your players to SbS with the older version, they should automatically change their firmware....

Kuben72
2011-02-17, 15:27
My trouble with 7.5.3 is when I sync two players. It works fine for some time and then suddenly the slave stops playing and won't do anything before it has either been resynced or starts on something else.
The logfil show that the slave player suddenly thinks that its time is 10 millions years behind the other player and then it just quit.
At first I thought it was the WHS-server time that was wrong, but it is not. And it started as soon I upgraded to 7.5.3 so I guess I will downgrade this weekend.

GeeJay
2011-02-20, 07:51
1) getting occasional brief (< 1 second) dropouts when streaming FLAC over wired ethernet. Usually it occurs in the last 30 seconds or so of a track. Once it starts doing it the dropouts occur more frequently. Sometimes transitions to new tracks aren't smooth either, as if the new track starts too soon. If I restart SBS these problems go away.


Any luck figuring this one out? I've been having recurring issues with this as well.

Mushroom_3
2011-02-20, 08:29
I am surprised there has been no response to this problem from the developers. It seems reasonably widespread and affects several players, and in differing ways. I have had problems with a boom,radio and controller (unsurprisingly).

There are similar postings on the Logitech forum, one person saying they cured the problems by re-installing 7.5.3.

In my case reverting to 7.5.2 has restored normality.

Kuben72
2011-02-20, 10:08
I have made a bug for the sync problem

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16881

Kuben72
2011-02-20, 14:57
I have downgraded to 7.5.2 and now my new music is totally wrong. I cleared the cache and did a total rescan of my music but it hasn't changed anything. What am I doing wrong?

Mnyb
2011-02-20, 16:07
I have downgraded to 7.5.2 and now my new music is totally wrong. I cleared the cache and did a total rescan of my music but it hasn't changed anything. What am I doing wrong?

New music uses time stamp from the files themselfes, when it was changed last time. it does not reflect when you added the files to the library.
Nothing sbs alter or have an opinoin about. Most decent tag editors have an option to preserve or change this time when you are editing tags.
Sometimes you want to change the time stamp, example you add a rip a friend did 2 years ago.
And again you don't want to change it when adjusting your own files, as then the tag fixed file would apear at the top of the new list.

When ripping your own CD's this comes naturally as the files are created and changed that instant.

this can be less obvius when downloading ready made files, but I usually fine tune the tags and set mp3tag to change the time as the record is new to me.

Maybe you scan failed for some reason and this list is incomplete?

Fahzz
2011-02-20, 19:19
So when I saw this new update, I waited a week or so, and since I didn't see anyone reporting problems on the forum, I gave in to temptation and downloaded 7.5.3. Within hours my system started having various and sundry issues, and I knew I was in trouble when I subsequently saw that many others were in the same boat.
I rolled back to 7.5.2 (I think). The server says 7.5.2 but diagnostics on the controller reads: Firmware Version 7.5.1 r9009. Is this what it's supposed to say?
The duet is working, so something changed, but I also remember that there were problems with and earlier update before 7.5.2. I don't remember which one, and I don't want to relive that experience.
Can somebody confirm that I did it properly? Thanks!

avta
2011-02-20, 20:18
i've been using 7.6 for quite a while with no problems. I use Mac OS on a Mac Mini computer. Why not give it a try ?

Mushroom_3
2011-02-21, 01:47
Can somebody confirm that I did it properly? Thanks!

I think you did it correctly if everything is working OK! I downgraded SBS to 7.5.2 (r31632) and my Radio and Touch show 7.5.1 r9218. The controller, however, shows 7.5.3 r9283. When I try a software update on it, it says it is up to date! Being the heap of sh1t that it is, no surprise there.

Everything works just fine now though, so I have turned off software update notification. I have decided life is too short to waste any more time fiddling with Squeezebox products (I have far too many of them). It's working and I will leave it alone till something breaks. (or I see universal acclaim of a future update).

aubuti
2011-02-21, 08:07
Any luck figuring this one out? I've been having recurring issues with this as well.
It hasn't recurred lately (knock wood). Still on 7.5.3.

TheLastMan
2011-02-21, 10:02
It hasn't recurred lately (knock wood).
All is fine for me since I reverted back to 7.5.1 (must change my sig).

Kuben72
2011-02-21, 14:25
New music uses time stamp from the files themselfes, when it was changed last time. it does not reflect when you added the files to the library.
Nothing sbs alter or have an opinoin about. Most decent tag editors have an option to preserve or change this time when you are editing tags.
Sometimes you want to change the time stamp, example you add a rip a friend did 2 years ago.
And again you don't want to change it when adjusting your own files, as then the tag fixed file would apear at the top of the new list.

When ripping your own CD's this comes naturally as the files are created and changed that instant.

this can be less obvius when downloading ready made files, but I usually fine tune the tags and set mp3tag to change the time as the record is new to me.

Maybe you scan failed for some reason and this list is incomplete?

You are right. Something had changed the date on the files.

Echo
2011-02-22, 23:29
i've been using 7.6 for quite a while with no problems. I use Mac OS on a Mac Mini computer. Why not give it a try ?

I had problems with 7.5.3, specifically the alarm would not function reliably with a synchronized group of players. I took avta's advice to try 7.6 and it works great.

I'm using a Synology 1010+ NAS (with SSODS4 4.11 to run SB 7.6.0-31915). With 7.5.3 and lower it took 40 min to do a 'clear library and rescan everything' on 20K tracks. The PC (with Ubuntu) I used prior to the NAS had performance. First clear rescan with 7.6 took 8:40 - I didn't believe that was correct so I redid it and the second time was 6:20, that's 6 times faster than 7.5.3! In addition the web interface is much more responsive and all the issues I had with SqueezePlay are gone, save a barely noticeable sync delay.

Marslo
2011-02-23, 15:04
download and install 7.5.2 (windows executable) from here:

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.2/

you shouldn't need to uninstall 7.5.3, just install on top.... when you connect your players to SbS with the older version, they should automatically change their firmware....

GarymI'll try that and let you know.

Thanks

Fahzz
2011-02-23, 17:35
Me again. Now that I've rolled back to some earlier version, my controller is stuck on the update screen. I've reset it a couple of times by pressing the home button and it still is begging me to update. I also shut off the check for updates feature in the server.
How do I get rid of this? Thanks!

wonder boy
2011-02-28, 01:34
I rolled back to 7.5.2 yesterday but of course when I connect my boom to mysb.com it updates the firmware but when I connect back to sbs it changes the firmware back again.

Annoying!!

garym
2011-02-28, 04:59
I rolled back to 7.5.2 yesterday but of course when I connect my boom to mysb.com it updates the firmware but when I connect back to sbs it changes the firmware back again.

Annoying!!

This is because when you connect to mysb.com it updates to latest firmware. Just leave your computer running SbS on 24/7 and you'll be fine. No need to ever connect to mysb.com.

aubuti
2011-02-28, 07:51
+1
And note that it's not done deliberately to annoy you. It works that way for a reason. Firmware upgrades and server software upgrades go together, although not strictly one-for-one because some SBS upgrades don't require upgrading firmware and vice-versa. But 7.5.3 required a firmware upgrade, and mysb.com will always be running the latest official release of SBS.

ModelCitizen
2011-02-28, 18:01
Since I upgraded to 7.5.3 and then de-graded back to 7.5.2 my Boom and Classic lose their network connection nearly every day and I return home from work to find that interminable message on the screen telling me to use the bank button to attempt to reconnect. Hitting the back button does nothing. Nor does hitting the play button. Touching a volume button brings up the main home menu and all is good again.
.
What is going on with my once nearly reliable set-up?

MC

Fahzz
2011-02-28, 18:08
I had the same problem with the update and roll back process. I stumbled across 7.5.4 which seems to be stable, and stopped the update screen.
As a side note I also tried 7.6, which seems really cool. I could control the boxes from my netbook, but I also had some scanning and GUI issues, and it may be too early to go that route, for me anyway.
Good luck.

Kuben72
2011-03-03, 14:25
Has anyone tried to disable any plugins like Dynamic Playlist and SQL Playlist? As you can see in this bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16881 I tried to disable those two plugins and as far as I can see from the logentries it made SBS more reliable.
I will try to upgrade again this weekend to see if it actually helped.

atrocity
2011-03-03, 18:42
Has anyone tried to disable any plugins like Dynamic Playlist and SQL Playlist?

No, but:

My weekend routine for a while has been to use Dynamic Playlists with "Never Played Albums" all night long. Since 7.5.3, it's common for it to work for a couple albums, then stop. Usually it adds an album, but then either just stops without playing it at all or only plays the last track and gives up.

I use a separate instance of SBS for the weekend, so it's definitely not a case of there not actually being any "Never Played Albums".

ltb76
2011-03-05, 13:15
I seem to have the same issue on Debian (Lenny).
I have 3 SB3 connected, all wired. 1 player disconnectes randomly, and the other 2 players work all the time.
I have tried switching 2 players (to verify if it is a switch / cabeling issue) but it is still the same player that has the issue.

I have just upgraded to 7.5.4 - r31995, and I still have the issue on that build.

Kuben72
2011-03-05, 16:00
I upgraded yesterday to 7.5.4 r31987 and it seems to have worked on my network. I have had two receivers synced all day, without any stop.
Will test some more tomorrow with two more players synced.

Meridion
2011-03-05, 23:08
I had the same issue (Ubuntu 10.10), which appeared with the 7.5.3 upgrade.

Maybe my wheater-plugin, which tried to poll wunderground.com without success, caused the problem.

It could be a coincidence that the wunderground.com problems appeared at the same time as the 7.5.3 upgrade.

paulster
2011-03-06, 00:12
The plug-ins I was running were all Logitech ones.

I think the truth is 7.5.3 is actually the problem, not the plugins.

For instance we've already established definitively that the FAAD AAC conversion executable shipped with 7.5.3 causes a processor race.

Meridion
2011-03-06, 02:41
I think the truth is 7.5.3 is actually the problem, not the plugins.

For instance we've already established definitively that the FAAD AAC conversion executable shipped with 7.5.3 causes a processor race.

Looks like 7.5.3 really is the problem, because I had a lockup again today, without the wunderground.com based plugin.

Is FAAD running even when there are no AAC conversions? My music library does contain only FLAC and MP3...

pablolie
2011-03-06, 22:00
I have 3 SB3, 3 Booms, 1 Duet and one Radio... and a large library that consists of MP3s and quite a few FLACs.

I have just experienced one hangup while playing FLACs. Other than that it seems stable for me (knock on wood) even though I have played a mix of players in full synch.

I run 7.5.3 on Linux - maybe the instabilities are platform dependent? In any case, I am glad I have observed no major issues. Then again, I have not experienced major benefits or changes, either, but I try to keep up with stable releases.

Sike
2011-03-09, 03:00
Hi

I had massive issues with SB3s disconnecting and the service hanging. I have upgraded to 7.5.4 and all is good again.

chris.mason
2011-03-09, 08:28
I've posted in another thread about wireless DHCP issues with 7.5.3 and 7.5.4.

But I am also seeing the same issues that are being listed here - frequent disconnects, SB3 and Boom rebooting or hanging, regular drop-outs etc.

The drop-outs are interesting, as when it starts happening, it occurs every 30 seconds. I'm wondering if the recent firmware updates designed to reduce the network traffic to Mysb.com and make the client units do more work has had unintended consequences.

I'm running a Boom and SB3, both over wifi using WPA2. Both devices configured to use static IP addresses.
SBS 7.5.4 r31995
Ubuntu 9.10

I'm going to try some router adjustments, such as the channel in use, and the kind of security to see if that helps, but I don't believe that is the issue (why should it be? nothing there has changed).
Also, I need to try a completely vanilla install, with no prefs set up, no plugins, and compare that.

Phileas
2011-03-09, 10:41
I posted most of the following in another thread.

I've been having problems since 7.5.3.

I've reverted to 7.5.2 and now to 7.5.0 without success.

I believe at least one other user was still having problems even after reverting to an earlier version.

I've managed to get my SB3 playing music without dropping the connection by ethernet cable. However, it seems that it no longer likes my homeplugs, even though these are working fine for internet access.

So something has changed but I can't with absolute certainty pin it on the update.

I've tried xlinix.

Currently I'm trying using the homeplug in a socket far away from where the SB3 power supply is plugged, in case that is somehow affecting it! It's OK so far but needs a longer test to prove anything (you can see I'm grasping at straws here!)

It's so frustrating - I've had no problems like this since buying my first Squeezebox well over two years ago.

callesoroe
2011-03-09, 11:09
I used to have a pretty reliable SqueezeBox Server set up.
However since I've installed 7.5.3 I find my players disconnect sporadically (the Boom is particularly susceptible and requires a reboot to get it reconnected) and my Radio's alarm has become very unreliable. I almost always get the backup alarm now and it sort of stutters. Once or twice the backup alarm has appeared to fire but there's only been silence.

Anyone else notice a degradation in reliability since 7.5.3?

This on Windows 7.

NC

I have small network dropouts too. But it reconnects so quickly, that it does not affect the audio streaming. My Transporter has about 30 seconds of music in the buffer. It also disconnect/reconnects when it not is playing.
Just a few seconds "Can't connect to server" and the the clock comes back.
I have not downgraded since it has not affected my audio.

Phileas
2011-03-09, 11:32
I have small network dropouts too. But it reconnects so quickly, that it does not affect the audio streaming..

...I have not downgraded since it has not affected my audio.

I almost never used to have network dropouts, so something has changed for me.

Kuben72
2011-03-09, 11:33
Try 7.5.4. It has worked for me. The sync problems and the problem with my SB3 loosing its connection has all gone away.

Phileas
2011-03-09, 12:45
Try 7.5.4. It has worked for me. The sync problems and the problem with my SB3 loosing its connection has all gone away.

Thanks, I know you mean well. However, going back to 7.5.2 worked for many people but it didn't work for me and a few others, so I don't have any particular confidence in 7.5.4 either.

So far this evening I've had no dropped connections so I don't know what to think.

Kuben72
2011-03-09, 14:08
Hmmm if going back to 7.5.2 didn't help and before you upgraded to 7.5.3 you didn't have any problems, then this must be something from outside. Either that or the installation of 7.5.3 upgraded something 7.5.2 can't downgrade.

But 7.5.4. actually have two fixes for exactly those problems you are describing. So I can't see what you got to loose?

It's either that or a broken system. Which one do you choose?

Phileas
2011-03-09, 14:33
Hmmm if going back to 7.5.2 didn't help and before you upgraded to 7.5.3 you didn't have any problems, then this must be something from outside. Either that or the installation of 7.5.3 upgraded something 7.5.2 can't downgrade.

The start of my problem didn't coincide exactly with my upgrading to 7.5.3 and just to add confusion, I discovered an apparent fault with one of my homeplugs. However, removing the homeplug did not fix things.


But 7.5.4. actually have two fixes for exactly those problems you are describing. So I can't see what you got to loose?

It's either that or a broken system. Which one do you choose?

I'm trying to eliminate variables at the moment so I don't want to add another. But I will bear your advice in mind.

smithw
2011-03-09, 18:08
I found V 7.5.3 unusable as wired ethernet connection with 3 squeezebox classics as described in this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86169

Have proved with one of the classics, so far, that un-installing V7.5.3 and installing V7.5.2 fixed the issue and then reinstalling V7.5.3 returned the issue.

Also noticed continual drop outs when connected via wireless when using V7.5.3

epoch1970
2011-03-10, 01:11
I run SBS 7.4.2 repeat: 7-four-2 with the latest firmwares for my SB3s and Boom.
All players are wired.
Since I upgraded to fw 132 on the SB3 (fw version included in 7.5.3) my SB3 can fail to read files from time to time. Once the player has stopped, I can press "play" again and get the track to play.

This behavior is new. Before the upgrade I was running fw 131 and didn't notice such a problem.

bwaldron
2011-03-10, 06:53
Try 7.5.4. It has worked for me. The sync problems and the problem with my SB3 loosing its connection has all gone away.

I'm still seeing the occasional "disconnected" message on my SB3 using the 7.5.4 nightlies.

w3wilkes
2011-03-10, 14:46
Initially I had no trouble with 7.5.3 with my Duet, wireless network, but as time goes by things have gotten much worse.

Initially installed back when it went RTM and thought all was well, this was on W7 x64. Player worked fine.

A couple of weeks later I did W7 SP1, had a initial connect problem, did a reset on the player/controller and reconnected and again was happy. Found that occasionally when I rebooted the PC I'd have to again reset player/controller to hook back up to my SBS server.

Then about a week ago I upgraded Avast to 6.0.1000 and that's when the grief really started. I did get the controller/player to connect to SBS and initially thought all was well right up until a couple of days ago when I rebooted the PC. Tried and tried to get things to connect and I just couldn't get it to go. I could get the player to connect to the network (blue light), but that wasn't even consistent. Usually the player would hang after a reset at bright yellow.

After checking out these forums I saw I wasn't alone in having trouble with 7.5.3 and after reading several posts I decided that I'd go back to 7.5.2.

I wish I could say that the fallback was painless, but it wasn't. After installing 7.5.2 I still couldn't get my player to connect, it would still hang on bright yellow. I then tried connecting the player via ethernet. Got a IP from the router (blue light), but still couldn't get it to connect. I then decided I'd take more drastic action, fully uninstalled 7.5.2, deleted remaining SBS directories in both Program Files and Program Data directories and completely removed Avast.

At this point I installed 7.5.2, tried a reset on the player/controller and tried to get it configured and connect wirelessly, but this was still a nogo and would hang at blue light on the player. I then connected the player via ethernet and tried again. Bingo! Player connected to my 7.5.2 server and immediately asked to go back to 7.5.1 r9009 which I did. Disconnected ethernet, did reset and was able to get things set up wirelessly.

At this point I reinstalled Avast 6.0.1000 rebooted and things all hooked up great (so I thought). Went to play some music which started, but after a second or two the player dropped connection to yellow then green then back to blue, but didn't connect to the SBS. Did a reset and configure on player and got it right back to connected to SBS. Started to play music and it dropped off again just like the first time.

I then went to the W7 firewall and now have 3 separate rules. One outbound to allow SBS to do what it wants with any protocol on any port. 2 inbound to let SBS do whatever it wants. 1 inbound that allows TCP on all ports local and remote and another inbound to allow UDP on all ports local and remote.

With all these changes I seem to now have my stable platform back! Been running for 2 days with no issues including reboots of PC running SBS and I don't have to mess with anything.

With all of this I'd say 7.5.3 has some connectivity issues. Those issues seem to go from not so bad to really bad when 7.5.3 is on W7 SP1 with Avast 6.0.1000. All seems to work just fine running SBS 7.5.2 with W7 SP1 and Avast 6.0.1000.

Phileas
2011-03-11, 01:40
I’ve been experimenting.

My problems did not start as soon as I upgraded to 7.5.3 but within a day or two, so I haven’t been able to pin the problems on that. I reverted to 7.5.2 but this did not resolve the issues.

I was getting the “can’t find server ” and the server log had lots of “connection dropped..can’t find player..retrying in 300 secs”.

Just to confuse things, I also discovered a problem with one of my homeplugs. However, removing this did not restore things.

So I had a hunch based on a very vague notion. I wondered if the SB3 power supply which was plugged into the same double wall socket as the homeplug (this was a change to my set-up) could be affecting it somehow.

I’ve run some experiments in which I left the SB3, in different network configurations, playing continuously on repeat through the night and during the day. I then checked the server log to see if there were any reports of dropped connections.

Results:

PC > Ethernet (via homeplug plugged in to socket eight feet from SB3 plug) > Router > Ethernet > SB3 -No dropouts
PC > Ethernet (via homeplug plugged in to socket eight feet from SB3 plug) > Router > WiFi > SB3 -No dropouts
PC > Ethernet (via homeplug) > Router > WiFi > SB3 (plugged into ext. lead from homeplug wall socket) -No dropouts
PC > Ethernet (via homeplug) > Router > WiFi > SB3 (plugged into same wall socket as homeplug) -drop outs within a couple of minutes.

In summary, these results seem to support the idea that the proximity of the SB3 power supply to the homeplug was having a negative effect on the network. But whether they are also partly server software version related is not ruled out.