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Howard Darwen
2004-09-07, 14:04
I know you didn't ask me, but I use the guess tags settings to extract tag
info from the folder / filename structure. This can cause some problems
(e.g. I just ran over the max. windows filepath length with 4 files because
of all the tag info ... oooops). I was trying to stick to wavs because I
didn't see the point of all the extra encoding to save about 35% of disc
space (you can get a 500GB Lacie external disc for about ?300). Also, when I
rip a CD I save an EAC CUE sheet so that I can burn the CD again if I ever
need to - and that only works with wavs.

I also seem to recall that slim supports CUE sheets (but not the proprietary
EAC one), which would be another way of getting at least some of the
metadata.

Having said all that, I am considering moving to FLAC ...

thx.

H.

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Gordon
Sent: 07 September 2004 21:32
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Confusion about squeezebox and formats


Your collection is in WAV format? How do you tag your files? WAV does
not support any type of tagging? Any reason why you choose WAV over say
a lossless encoder?

Mike Olson wrote:

> Jason Holtzapple <jasonholtzapple@...> writes:
>
>
>>Mike Olson wrote:
>>
>>>I'm a new user (SB on it's way). There's a thread over at audio asylum
>
> stating
>
>>>that the squeezebox compress ALL formats to MP3 for playback. Is this
>
> true?
>
>>>If so, what is the advantage of using uncompressed or lossless formats?
>>
>>Not true - they are probably thinking of the earlier SLIMP3 model, not the
>
> Squeezebox.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for the info. It looks like someone has already corrected
the
> mis-information on AudioAsylum. Since my CD collection is already ripped
to
> WAV, I can breath a sigh of relief and anxiously await the SB arrival.
>
>
>

kdf
2004-09-07, 14:16
Slimserver doess support ID3 tags and RIFF INFO tags in WAV files. I'm clueless
as to how you actually GET those tags in there, but if they are there, the
server can read them :)
-kdf

Quoting Howard Darwen <hdarwen (AT) btinternet (DOT) com>:

> I know you didn't ask me, but I use the guess tags settings to extract tag
> info from the folder / filename structure. This can cause some problems
> (e.g. I just ran over the max. windows filepath length with 4 files because
> of all the tag info ... oooops). I was trying to stick to wavs because I
> didn't see the point of all the extra encoding to save about 35% of disc
> space (you can get a 500GB Lacie external disc for about ?300). Also, when I
> rip a CD I save an EAC CUE sheet so that I can burn the CD again if I ever
> need to - and that only works with wavs.
>
> I also seem to recall that slim supports CUE sheets (but not the proprietary
> EAC one), which would be another way of getting at least some of the
> metadata.
>
> Having said all that, I am considering moving to FLAC ...
>
> thx.
>
> H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey
> Gordon
> Sent: 07 September 2004 21:32
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Confusion about squeezebox and formats
>
>
> Your collection is in WAV format? How do you tag your files? WAV does
> not support any type of tagging? Any reason why you choose WAV over say
> a lossless encoder?
>
> Mike Olson wrote:
>
> > Jason Holtzapple <jasonholtzapple@...> writes:
> >
> >
> >>Mike Olson wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm a new user (SB on it's way). There's a thread over at audio asylum
> >
> > stating
> >
> >>>that the squeezebox compress ALL formats to MP3 for playback. Is this
> >
> > true?
> >
> >>>If so, what is the advantage of using uncompressed or lossless formats?
> >>
> >>Not true - they are probably thinking of the earlier SLIMP3 model, not the
> >
> > Squeezebox.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks everyone for the info. It looks like someone has already corrected
> the
> > mis-information on AudioAsylum. Since my CD collection is already ripped
> to
> > WAV, I can breath a sigh of relief and anxiously await the SB arrival.
> >
> >
> >

Jeffrey Gordon
2004-09-07, 16:17
Well besides saving 35% which can add up with large collections, you get
a nice tag format too. The WAV tagging that I did not even know was
possible, I am sure is more of a hack on and probably does not play well
with many players.

Also you can create CUE sheets with FLAC and encode as a single file per
ablum but then you run into tagging issues and rely on the CUE sheet
again. So if you are doing single file per album you do not gain too
much with FLAC.

Howard Darwen wrote:

>I know you didn't ask me, but I use the guess tags settings to extract tag
>info from the folder / filename structure. This can cause some problems
>(e.g. I just ran over the max. windows filepath length with 4 files because
>of all the tag info ... oooops). I was trying to stick to wavs because I
>didn't see the point of all the extra encoding to save about 35% of disc
>space (you can get a 500GB Lacie external disc for about ?300). Also, when I
>rip a CD I save an EAC CUE sheet so that I can burn the CD again if I ever
>need to - and that only works with wavs.
>
>I also seem to recall that slim supports CUE sheets (but not the proprietary
>EAC one), which would be another way of getting at least some of the
>metadata.
>
>Having said all that, I am considering moving to FLAC ...
>
>thx.
>
>H.
>
>