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PhlLeig@aol.com
2004-09-07, 12:50
IMHO Server-side FLAC is/will be absolutely the determinant feature for us
lucky few people who have "decent" ears and "decent" audio systems (please
don't flame! - just my opinion). I've just sold my >2k cd player and expensive
support system in favour of my "Squeezy". All of my friends...and my wife,
more importantly... think the sound quality is fantastic with FLAC through a
good DAC. Everyone who has heard/seen it wants one...but not with intermittent
dropouts.
I'm prepared to hard wire my s-box to a laptop to remove the wi-fi element -
not everyone will though. Please get server-side FLAC working ASAP, and the
SQL database, and then you have a real killer product. DRM sucks (big time),
MP3 sucks even worse - even VBR. I've just put all my CD's into storage and
replaced them with 1Tb of disk. This has changed my life and my house!
Yours, in eager anticipation,
Phil

Mike Kozlowski
2004-09-07, 13:37
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 PhlLeig (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

> IMHO Server-side FLAC is/will be absolutely the determinant feature for us
> lucky few people who have "decent" ears and "decent" audio systems
> don't flame! - just my opinion). I've just sold my >2k cd player and
> expensive support system in favour of my "Squeezy". All of my
> friends...and my wife, more importantly... think the sound quality is
> fantastic with FLAC through a good DAC. Everyone who has heard/seen it
> wants one...but not with intermittent dropouts.
> I'm prepared to hard wire my s-box to a laptop to remove the wi-fi element -
> not everyone will though.

If you've got decent signal strength on your wireless network and aren't
otherwise utilizing it heavily, 802.11g would give you what you're looking
for, too -- enough headroom that dropouts aren't likely to happen. It's
almost inevitable that a future version of the Squeezebox is going to have
an 802.11g card in it, and people who want this today can buy a wireless-G
bridge from Linksys for under $100 (which means that wired SB + wireless
bridge is right around the same price as the wireless SB). That latter is
what I'm doing today, and it works great.

Native FLAC would be nice, mind, and I'd like to see it as well; but if
the only thing stopping people from buying an SB is that 802.11b doesn't
have the bandwidth to handle PCM, there are easy and cheap workarounds to
that right now.

--
Mike Kozlowski
http://www.klio.org/mlk/

Kevin O. Lepard
2004-09-07, 15:48
>It's almost inevitable that a future version of the Squeezebox is
>going to have an 802.11g card in it

Agreed. I hope this can be upgraded by the end-user like the display can.

I really would like native FLAC on the client side, too.

I also wonder why you can't put a bigger buffer into the Squeezebox.
Memory is so cheap now. It's not the days when get that 64th K for
my Darth Vader ][+ was a major splurge. Now I've gone and dated
myself. :-)

Buy hey, I don't build 'em. I just buy 'em. :-)

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Ken
2004-09-07, 19:24
Phil,

Not to be a naysayer, but I've been using my Squeezebox wireless with FLAC encoded files, and for the past several months of updates find the drop outs to be relatively infrequent. One thing I did was change the wireless channel on my access point from channel 11 (the default) to 5, which seemed to make a big difference in reliability. We have a number of folks in the area using wireless on channel 11, and its possible that the congestion on that frequency was one cause for the previously unreliable connections. I generally have signal strength at the Squeezebox between 46 and 60 depending on where I'm sitting and the time of day, but for the most part the streams tend to remain very stable.

I do agree however that client side FLAC decoding would help, but probably not nearly as much as switching to 802.11g. I'm ready to get a few more units for the bedrooms and would like to be able to use them simultaneously. With the current technology, I'm guessing that this is going to be quite a stretch without resorting to compressed streams.

Ken

PhlLeig (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
> IMHO Server-side FLAC is/will be absolutely the determinant feature for
> us lucky few people who have "decent" ears and "decent" audio systems
> (please don't flame! - just my opinion). I've just sold my >2k cd
> player and expensive support system in favour of my "Squeezy". All of my
> friends....and my wife, more importantly... think the sound quality is
> fantastic with FLAC through a good DAC. Everyone who has heard/seen it
> wants one...but not with intermittent dropouts.
> I'm prepared to hard wire my s-box to a laptop to remove the wi-fi
> element - not everyone will though. Please get server-side FLAC working
> ASAP, and the SQL database, and then you have a real killer product. DRM
> sucks (big time), MP3 sucks even worse - even VBR. I've just put all my
> CD's into storage and replaced them with 1Tb of disk. This has changed
> my life and my house!
> Yours, in eager anticipation,
> Phil
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