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alex wetmore
2003-11-24, 09:54
Will this be added to the current hardware, or well there be another
hardware rev that adds IR output support to the geek port? Can you
control through software what some of the geekport pins do?

How far away is support for the geek port? (3 months, 6 months, 12
months, etc)?

thanks,
alex

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sean Adams wrote:

>
> Alex,
>
> The geekport is not fully supported yet.
>
> Yes there will be IR output. Right now you can monitor the internal IR
> signal or inject your own signal (eg for a keypad). Output for an IR
> "blaster" will be added down the road.
>
> Sean
>
> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:43 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>
> > The FAQ at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_faq.html says this about
> > the Squeezebox geek connector:
> >
> > Are there any extra pins on the CPU, or ways to expand Squeezebox?
> >
> > Squeezebox has an internal expansion connector - the Geek Connector
> > - which will be supported with a future firmware revision. The
> > Geek Connector provides power, i2c, rs-232, IR out/in, audio
> > ^^^^^^^^^
> > in/out, and general purpose I/O.
> >
> > A recent posting to the developer group has this pinout:
> >
> > 1 gnd
> > 2 +5V
> > 3 +3.3V
> > 4 +2.5V
> > 5 synchronous serial debug output, clock
> > 6 synchronous serial debug output, data
> > 7 i2c clock
> > 8 i2c data
> > 9 infrared input/monitor
> > 10 general-purpose i/o (doesn't do anything yet)
> > 11 s/pdif enable indicator (may be used to drive remote amplifier
> > turn-on)
> > 12 s/pdif output 0 to 3.3V
> > 13 ethernet activity LED (may be re-purposed later)
> > 14 ethernet link LED ""
> > 15 decoder reset line (not really useful)
> > 16 mixer input: analog left
> > 17 mixer input: analog right
> > 18 mixer input: s/pdif (0-3.3V CMOS input)
> >
> > My question: Where is the IR output?
> >
> > I was hoping to be able to use a Squeezebox (with custom software)
> > to power on my reciever and act as an alarm clock. Is there really
> > IR output? The FAQ says yes, but the pinout doesn't seem to show
> > it.
> >
> > alex
> >
> >

seanadams
2003-11-24, 09:59
Alex,

It's already wired for everything I've mentioned - no hardware changes
planned.

We can configure pin functions in software - eg right now there is one
unused pin, a couple pins which happen to be outputting the ethernet
activity/link signals, and a couple more pins which are used for a
serial debugging monitor. All of these can be configured in software
for different things.

If I had to guess I'd say the geek connector will become supported on
roughly the following timeline:

2-3 weeks: Documentation and project ideas
4-6 weeks: More firmware support - IR blasting, i2c read/write, maybe
rs-232 I/O
6-8 weeks: Even more firmware support, + server side support for audio
mixing

On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:54 AM, alex wetmore wrote:

> Will this be added to the current hardware, or well there be another
> hardware rev that adds IR output support to the geek port? Can you
> control through software what some of the geekport pins do?
>
> How far away is support for the geek port? (3 months, 6 months, 12
> months, etc)?
>
> thanks,
> alex
>
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sean Adams wrote:
>
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> The geekport is not fully supported yet.
>>
>> Yes there will be IR output. Right now you can monitor the internal IR
>> signal or inject your own signal (eg for a keypad). Output for an IR
>> "blaster" will be added down the road.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:43 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>>
>>> The FAQ at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_faq.html says this about
>>> the Squeezebox geek connector:
>>>
>>> Are there any extra pins on the CPU, or ways to expand Squeezebox?
>>>
>>> Squeezebox has an internal expansion connector - the Geek
>>> Connector
>>> - which will be supported with a future firmware revision. The
>>> Geek Connector provides power, i2c, rs-232, IR out/in, audio
>>> ^^^^^^^^^
>>> in/out, and general purpose I/O.
>>>
>>> A recent posting to the developer group has this pinout:
>>>
>>> 1 gnd
>>> 2 +5V
>>> 3 +3.3V
>>> 4 +2.5V
>>> 5 synchronous serial debug output, clock
>>> 6 synchronous serial debug output, data
>>> 7 i2c clock
>>> 8 i2c data
>>> 9 infrared input/monitor
>>> 10 general-purpose i/o (doesn't do anything yet)
>>> 11 s/pdif enable indicator (may be used to drive remote amplifier
>>> turn-on)
>>> 12 s/pdif output 0 to 3.3V
>>> 13 ethernet activity LED (may be re-purposed later)
>>> 14 ethernet link LED ""
>>> 15 decoder reset line (not really useful)
>>> 16 mixer input: analog left
>>> 17 mixer input: analog right
>>> 18 mixer input: s/pdif (0-3.3V CMOS input)
>>>
>>> My question: Where is the IR output?
>>>
>>> I was hoping to be able to use a Squeezebox (with custom software)
>>> to power on my reciever and act as an alarm clock. Is there really
>>> IR output? The FAQ says yes, but the pinout doesn't seem to show
>>> it.
>>>
>>> alex
>>>
>>>

dean
2003-11-24, 10:02
One of the general I/O pins will be turned into an IR output.

-dean

On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:54 AM, alex wetmore wrote:

> Will this be added to the current hardware, or well there be another
> hardware rev that adds IR output support to the geek port? Can you
> control through software what some of the geekport pins do?
>
> How far away is support for the geek port? (3 months, 6 months, 12
> months, etc)?
>
> thanks,
> alex
>
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sean Adams wrote:
>
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> The geekport is not fully supported yet.
>>
>> Yes there will be IR output. Right now you can monitor the internal IR
>> signal or inject your own signal (eg for a keypad). Output for an IR
>> "blaster" will be added down the road.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:43 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>>
>>> The FAQ at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_faq.html says this about
>>> the Squeezebox geek connector:
>>>
>>> Are there any extra pins on the CPU, or ways to expand Squeezebox?
>>>
>>> Squeezebox has an internal expansion connector - the Geek
>>> Connector
>>> - which will be supported with a future firmware revision. The
>>> Geek Connector provides power, i2c, rs-232, IR out/in, audio
>>> ^^^^^^^^^
>>> in/out, and general purpose I/O.
>>>
>>> A recent posting to the developer group has this pinout:
>>>
>>> 1 gnd
>>> 2 +5V
>>> 3 +3.3V
>>> 4 +2.5V
>>> 5 synchronous serial debug output, clock
>>> 6 synchronous serial debug output, data
>>> 7 i2c clock
>>> 8 i2c data
>>> 9 infrared input/monitor
>>> 10 general-purpose i/o (doesn't do anything yet)
>>> 11 s/pdif enable indicator (may be used to drive remote amplifier
>>> turn-on)
>>> 12 s/pdif output 0 to 3.3V
>>> 13 ethernet activity LED (may be re-purposed later)
>>> 14 ethernet link LED ""
>>> 15 decoder reset line (not really useful)
>>> 16 mixer input: analog left
>>> 17 mixer input: analog right
>>> 18 mixer input: s/pdif (0-3.3V CMOS input)
>>>
>>> My question: Where is the IR output?
>>>
>>> I was hoping to be able to use a Squeezebox (with custom software)
>>> to power on my reciever and act as an alarm clock. Is there really
>>> IR output? The FAQ says yes, but the pinout doesn't seem to show
>>> it.
>>>
>>> alex
>>>
>>>

jcm3
2003-12-13, 10:00
> 4-6 weeks: More firmware support - IR blasting, i2c read/write, maybe
> rs-232 I/O

Does this mean that currently there is no support for bidirectional 232
communications? I ask because I was under the impression that a Crestron
control macro had been written for this device,and I don't understand how it
will work w/o the 232 communications.

jcmitch

"Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:9EB5B3C2-1E9F-11D8-9524-000A957BA960 (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
>
> Alex,
>
> It's already wired for everything I've mentioned - no hardware changes
> planned.
>
> We can configure pin functions in software - eg right now there is one
> unused pin, a couple pins which happen to be outputting the ethernet
> activity/link signals, and a couple more pins which are used for a
> serial debugging monitor. All of these can be configured in software
> for different things.
>
> If I had to guess I'd say the geek connector will become supported on
> roughly the following timeline:
>
> 2-3 weeks: Documentation and project ideas
> 4-6 weeks: More firmware support - IR blasting, i2c read/write, maybe
> rs-232 I/O
> 6-8 weeks: Even more firmware support, + server side support for audio
> mixing
>
> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:54 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>
> > Will this be added to the current hardware, or well there be another
> > hardware rev that adds IR output support to the geek port? Can you
> > control through software what some of the geekport pins do?
> >
> > How far away is support for the geek port? (3 months, 6 months, 12
> > months, etc)?
> >
> > thanks,
> > alex
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sean Adams wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Alex,
> >>
> >> The geekport is not fully supported yet.
> >>
> >> Yes there will be IR output. Right now you can monitor the internal IR
> >> signal or inject your own signal (eg for a keypad). Output for an IR
> >> "blaster" will be added down the road.
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:43 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
> >>
> >>> The FAQ at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_faq.html says this about
> >>> the Squeezebox geek connector:
> >>>
> >>> Are there any extra pins on the CPU, or ways to expand Squeezebox?
> >>>
> >>> Squeezebox has an internal expansion connector - the Geek
> >>> Connector
> >>> - which will be supported with a future firmware revision. The
> >>> Geek Connector provides power, i2c, rs-232, IR out/in, audio
> >>> ^^^^^^^^^
> >>> in/out, and general purpose I/O.
> >>>
> >>> A recent posting to the developer group has this pinout:
> >>>
> >>> 1 gnd
> >>> 2 +5V
> >>> 3 +3.3V
> >>> 4 +2.5V
> >>> 5 synchronous serial debug output, clock
> >>> 6 synchronous serial debug output, data
> >>> 7 i2c clock
> >>> 8 i2c data
> >>> 9 infrared input/monitor
> >>> 10 general-purpose i/o (doesn't do anything yet)
> >>> 11 s/pdif enable indicator (may be used to drive remote amplifier
> >>> turn-on)
> >>> 12 s/pdif output 0 to 3.3V
> >>> 13 ethernet activity LED (may be re-purposed later)
> >>> 14 ethernet link LED ""
> >>> 15 decoder reset line (not really useful)
> >>> 16 mixer input: analog left
> >>> 17 mixer input: analog right
> >>> 18 mixer input: s/pdif (0-3.3V CMOS input)
> >>>
> >>> My question: Where is the IR output?
> >>>
> >>> I was hoping to be able to use a Squeezebox (with custom software)
> >>> to power on my reciever and act as an alarm clock. Is there really
> >>> IR output? The FAQ says yes, but the pinout doesn't seem to show
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> alex
> >>>
> >>>

dean
2003-12-13, 12:24
The Crestron module connects directly to the server via ethernet, not
to the players.

-dean

On Dec 13, 2003, at 9:00 AM, jcm3 wrote:

>> 4-6 weeks: More firmware support - IR blasting, i2c read/write, maybe
>> rs-232 I/O
>
> Does this mean that currently there is no support for bidirectional 232
> communications? I ask because I was under the impression that a
> Crestron
> control macro had been written for this device,and I don't understand
> how it
> will work w/o the 232 communications.
>
> jcmitch
>
> "Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
> message news:9EB5B3C2-1E9F-11D8-9524-000A957BA960 (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> It's already wired for everything I've mentioned - no hardware changes
>> planned.
>>
>> We can configure pin functions in software - eg right now there is one
>> unused pin, a couple pins which happen to be outputting the ethernet
>> activity/link signals, and a couple more pins which are used for a
>> serial debugging monitor. All of these can be configured in software
>> for different things.
>>
>> If I had to guess I'd say the geek connector will become supported on
>> roughly the following timeline:
>>
>> 2-3 weeks: Documentation and project ideas
>> 4-6 weeks: More firmware support - IR blasting, i2c read/write, maybe
>> rs-232 I/O
>> 6-8 weeks: Even more firmware support, + server side support for audio
>> mixing
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:54 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>>
>>> Will this be added to the current hardware, or well there be another
>>> hardware rev that adds IR output support to the geek port? Can you
>>> control through software what some of the geekport pins do?
>>>
>>> How far away is support for the geek port? (3 months, 6 months, 12
>>> months, etc)?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> alex
>>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sean Adams wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>> The geekport is not fully supported yet.
>>>>
>>>> Yes there will be IR output. Right now you can monitor the internal
>>>> IR
>>>> signal or inject your own signal (eg for a keypad). Output for an IR
>>>> "blaster" will be added down the road.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 2003, at 8:43 AM, alex wetmore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The FAQ at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_faq.html says this about
>>>>> the Squeezebox geek connector:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any extra pins on the CPU, or ways to expand
>>>>> Squeezebox?
>>>>>
>>>>> Squeezebox has an internal expansion connector - the Geek
>>>>> Connector
>>>>> - which will be supported with a future firmware revision. The
>>>>> Geek Connector provides power, i2c, rs-232, IR out/in, audio
>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^
>>>>> in/out, and general purpose I/O.
>>>>>
>>>>> A recent posting to the developer group has this pinout:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 gnd
>>>>> 2 +5V
>>>>> 3 +3.3V
>>>>> 4 +2.5V
>>>>> 5 synchronous serial debug output, clock
>>>>> 6 synchronous serial debug output, data
>>>>> 7 i2c clock
>>>>> 8 i2c data
>>>>> 9 infrared input/monitor
>>>>> 10 general-purpose i/o (doesn't do anything yet)
>>>>> 11 s/pdif enable indicator (may be used to drive remote
>>>>> amplifier
>>>>> turn-on)
>>>>> 12 s/pdif output 0 to 3.3V
>>>>> 13 ethernet activity LED (may be re-purposed later)
>>>>> 14 ethernet link LED ""
>>>>> 15 decoder reset line (not really useful)
>>>>> 16 mixer input: analog left
>>>>> 17 mixer input: analog right
>>>>> 18 mixer input: s/pdif (0-3.3V CMOS input)
>>>>>
>>>>> My question: Where is the IR output?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was hoping to be able to use a Squeezebox (with custom software)
>>>>> to power on my reciever and act as an alarm clock. Is there really
>>>>> IR output? The FAQ says yes, but the pinout doesn't seem to show
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> alex
>>>>>
>>>>>