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bluegaspode
2010-11-06, 07:06
SqueezePad 1.6 is going to the AppStore this weekend and will feature
- album and artist caching
- playlist protection
- some controls on the screensafer
- WOL
- server detection.

As with this release the most voted features from my last poll (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=563167) are finished, it's time to ask for current priorities again.

Is I'm still just a lonely programmer spending the nights on SqueezePad, things can just come one after the other.

So take your time and vote for the thing you want me to start at next.

More images of your music collection
Are you bored of seeing the same covers over and over ?
Why not (automatically) loading some from web and showing them instead ?
Pictures from concerts, promo-material from the artist - it's all available on Flickr, Last.FM, Google …

Why not browse all these images like in the 'Photos' App ? Fullscreen, with scaling, as a slideshow ... while you are listening to them ?

More Screensafers
What about a new screensafer, that shows part of the playlist, like in this mockup:
http://www.squeezepad.com/?attachment_id=285

Better player syncing
Syncing players is available in the current version of SqueezePad via the default logitech menu. If you do it often, the Logitech way ("select a player, sync it to another player, switch to the next player ...") might not be the most comfortable one for you.

Along easier 'ad hoc'-Synchronisation I want you to save and load your named set of synced Players, because usually parties often span the same rooms and players that need to be synced.

Mysqueezebox.com - Player Switching
Someone needing regular player switching from and to MySB.com ? Then this is your vote.

Better Search
What about a Search-Control somewhere on the main UI ?
Enter a search term and get a combined search for artists/albums/titles.

Drag'n'Drop for the playlist
What about dragging songs or albums from left to right into the playlist ?

TrackStat Ratings
Never used this feature myself - other Apps have this feature so it might be important. Tell me with your votes !

IRBlaster integration
Get better controls to control your Amps via IRBlaster.

Big Screen with Album Covers for selection
A screen filled with the cover art of your library for searching and selecting. Sorta like the example posted here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=560429&postcount=202

Something else
If you think your most important feature is not in the list, vote here and comment in this thread.
If this point gets enough votes I'll start the poll again with different options :D

PietB
2010-11-06, 08:42
I would be nice to have a big screen with covers to choose

carrera
2010-11-06, 10:16
Hi,

I would like to have a kind of display modus. This means if you turn the "display modus" on, you could see everything displayed on the iPad which is normally shown on the display of your player eg touch, or transporter.

So I can sit in front of my transporter scroll with any remote i like through my library and see the scrolling, menues and everything on my ipad placed near me.

carrera

amcluesent
2010-11-06, 11:41
It's a 'something else'...provide support for those with classical music tagged with meta-data for composer, performer/soloist etc. by having this on the 'now playing' screen.

Frorsteig
2010-11-06, 15:40
You mentioned an option for new screensaver modes and I looked at your mock up. Would it be difficult to show the playlist along with the large album art in the screensaver mode? I noticed while I was making the image below that you posted a response for something similar on the main screen in another thread.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1979038/screensavr.jpg

bluegaspode
2010-11-06, 16:51
You mentioned an option for new screensaver modes and I looked at your mock up. Would it be difficult to show the playlist along with the large album art in the screensaver mode? I noticed while I was making the image below that you posted a response for something similar on the main screen in another thread.

Yeah - this type of layout will be possible on the mainscreen in the future.
The main menu will get a small button (like the playlist pane). Then you can dismiss the main menu but leave the playlist open. The cover will move to the left then.

In the end it will quite look like the mockup you did (will have the normal bars on top and bottom though). I think this will be a very cool feature once implemented. This feature is not part of the poll, as I'll do it anyway.

rkotemp
2010-11-07, 03:39
Something else:

Using the application in landscape and portraid mode.
Main reason to use it in portraid is when standing on the dockingstation.
And the irblaster support.

Rob

youme3
2010-11-07, 07:04
I voted for the better search functionality. As stated in my post in the long SqueezePad thread. With this functionality it would become much easier for me to find my staff in my library f.e.

On the other hand I'd appreciate the drag'n'drop playlist as well.

cheers

hsmeets
2010-11-13, 07:51
I voted for the big screen with album art to select.

Some UI idea's:

Integrate into screensaver, pinch/contract action to go from playing one into the overview with all albums, swipe up Down left right to scroll, tap-hold to see tracks, tap to play or add to play list, pinchout to return from over view to current playing one.

Maybe act as airply hub to stream sqb to airplay receivers......

colincliff
2010-11-13, 07:59
many thanks for the update. The WOL has made this my main ipad app now. :)

johansombekke
2010-11-14, 15:58
Yeah - this type of layout will be possible on the mainscreen in the future.
The main menu will get a small button (like the playlist pane). Then you can dismiss the main menu but leave the playlist open. The cover will move to the left then.

In the end it will quite look like the mockup you did (will have the normal bars on top and bottom though). I think this will be a very cool feature once implemented. This feature is not part of the poll, as I'll do it anyway.

Thanks a lot for SqueezePad!

I'd get rid of the current 'playlist' popup and replace it, like you say (bluegaspode) by a moving screen. You have 3 columns of which either the main menu (left) and cover art with controls are shown (right) and a 'hidden' playlist or cover art with controls (left) and playlist + management (right).

I like the current screensaver. To extend it for playlists I'd add a button to the right on the floating control pane (like the homescreen button that's on the far left side). This button should toggle between single song view (current screensaver) and playlist view where you can see what 2 or 3 songs are coming next by showing their album cover and maybe artist, album and song name below. I already saw some mock-up. Looks good to me! I voted for this feature.

If I could give a second vote: Big Screen with Album Covers for selection (like iPeng has ;-))

If I may bring up a new feature... or maybe I should say old feature: MusicIP support or something alike. MusicIP generates playlists based on the characteristics of one selected song. I've always been amazed by the playlists that were generated. Problem is that MusicIP is abandonned (the developer has turned his interest to B2B solutions). The former 'MusicIP mixer' is still available for download (http://www.amplifindmusicservices.com/what/downloads.php) and I remember also a way to have MusicIP work as a SERVICE on a Windows machine. However nowadays a lot of more tech savvy users or real music lovers use a NAS (or something like that) for SqueezeServer to run. Unfortunately MusicIP won't run on these platforms. I hope someone will make this fantastic technology available for everyone. MusicIP mixer can be used to tag the MP3 files (so no server side component is necessary), but we'll need functionality in SqueezePad to use these tags to generate an 'intelligent' playlist. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

erland
2010-11-15, 12:56
If I could give a second vote: Big Screen with Album Covers for selection (like iPeng has ;-))

If I could give a second vote: "More images of your music collection" (like iPeng doesn't have ;-))

There has to be more people than me who wants to see new interesting artist images from LastFM or similar sites appear on your now playing screen and in the browse menus. Why have the same boring album images every day when you can get fresh new images of your favorite artist every week/month/year.

bluegaspode
2010-11-15, 13:14
A new tactic: persuade others to vote for the second most wanted feature :D

Didn't expect erland to have another most wanted, so that album images is still only second. But that's why polls are so important I guess. Never think you know your customers!
You will be wrong all the time.

No wonder agile methods that publish small increments are so successful.

linvale
2010-11-18, 08:28
would be great to have a display that changes during play - what about getting images from Last fm or google of the artist/band or using the additional tagged art e.g. back cover, insrt etc thats becoming more available

bluegaspode
2010-11-18, 08:45
just vote for the first option :D
Don't know if I can access art that is tagged in the files as well (because the Squeezebox-Server would have to provide them).

But the internet alone is a great place to start - guess one can get very good results.

drrock77
2010-11-20, 13:23
I'd love to have in app streaming to the iPad from Squeezebox Server. This would allow me to take my entire music collection with me anywhere I go.

Right now, I am using CastCatcher in concert with SqueezePad to listen to my collection remotely. However, it would be ideal if it was a single application that had the entire functionality.

Other than that, I love the app. It rules.

Thanks.

bluegaspode
2010-11-21, 05:24
Yeah - I guess streaming will also be a feature arriving at some time in the future.
Very complicated though and I have to start reading into mp3-streaming licensing issues (yes - one has still to pay for licenses to - commercially- stream and broadcast mp3).
Don't know yet whether this would apply to SqueezePad.

goobi
2010-11-22, 02:58
Just wish to register my thanks for the ongoing work you have been doing to make this good product even better. From my point of view the server lookup function you just implemented is a bugbear now fixed.

Best wishes, goobi

Juliozaffo
2010-11-22, 09:29
This was pulled from the other Squeezepad thread:

>I'm not sure how intuitive it's going to be but maybe you could show the most >used menus as shortcut buttons instead of making them configurable ?

>Kind of similar to how the Windows start menu works.

I would be +1 on this. This is about the only feature I care about that remains. However, I don't know how you'd figure how deep to go menu level wise to determine what a favorite is. Also, would you want it to work for all menus? If possible, maybe you could just do a tap + hold on a menu and add a "add to favorites" option in a popup. To get a little more complicated, also add a favorites button to the screen and when you tap it up pops a menu consisting of your favorites.

Otherwise I'd say a search bar somewhere on top would be the next logical choice. It would just make sense to have it there.

JaviT
2010-11-29, 07:02
Hello,

I vote "something else". If possible, I want something for display Lyrics of the song that is playing.

Thanks

bluegaspode
2010-11-29, 08:45
Hello,

I vote "something else". If possible, I want something for display Lyrics of the song that is playing.

Thanks

Hi JaviT,

did you try to install the the lyrics-plugin along with the song info plugin already?

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Song_Lyrics_plugin
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Song_Info_plugin

You would then get a new context-menu item when you do a long press on the current playing song.

Didn't try it out myself yet though but maybe that's already what you are searching for?

johansombekke
2010-11-30, 01:58
Hi Bluegaspode,

I second the idea of JaviT to display song lyrics (as an optional screensaver mode, so now we have three? 1) current song, 2) playlist 3) current song with lyrics)).

Anyway, I looked at the slimdevices wiki. I'm sorry but this is a no go. I'm an IT consultant and music lover. But when I read the wiki I think this is for the tech-savvy only. We need two plug-ins, repositories and are faced with multiple downloads. How should I install this stuff on my Synology NAS (with flipflip's SSODS)? Shall I just put the files in a folder with SSH (putty)?

The same goes for my former request about 'MusicIP' (or if you like the 'Genius' mixes on any iPod, which is less Genius than MusicIP, but okay, we can't have it all :-)). You almost have to be a programmer to have the MusicIP service run on a Windows PC / server, let alone on a unix device (and for my Synology NAS I have no clue).

So, I hope both the people behind SqueezeCenter, as well as developers like you can help to make features like this available for the vast majority of music lovers. Thanks a lot!

JaviT
2010-11-30, 03:06
bluegaspode:
Thanks, I'll try these plugins. But, certainly, I want to say something like johansombekke said, a screensaver or similar where I can see lyrics, without navigate with a context-menu. Even with lyrics change when song change.


Sorry all about my (poor) English.

bluegaspode
2010-11-30, 03:41
3) current song with lyrics)).
Karaoke-Mode
Just connect your iPad with the TV and here goes the next party :D

Just afraid most lyrics don't come with timestamps. So will be difficult to present all text (or user needs to manually scroll).

Also without a plugin on the serverside, SqueezePad wouldn't have access to lyrics in the tags. As I doubt that logitech will provide something like that as a standard feature the only way will be via server-side plugins.

Both plugins mentioned should install quite easily by the way. I think they can be activated directly from the Web-UI (if erlands repository URL is entered on the bottom).

erland
2010-12-01, 01:15
Karaoke-Mode
Just connect your iPad with the TV and here goes the next party :D

Just afraid most lyrics don't come with timestamps. So will be difficult to present all text (or user needs to manually scroll).

Actually, musixmatch.com, which is one of the sources I'm using for the lyrics provides timestamps. Their lyrics are also legal to use, thanks to agreements with music industry, in comparison to some of the other sources which have lyrics that that hasn't been officially approved by the music industry.

I haven't verified how many songs musixmatch.com have lyrics for yet though, so it might be too limited to be useful.



Also without a plugin on the serverside, SqueezePad wouldn't have access to lyrics in the tags. As I doubt that logitech will provide something like that as a standard feature the only way will be via server-side plugins.

There is a "lyrics" column in the tracks table, doesn't the standard scanner fill that ?
If it does, isn't there a JSON command to retrieve it ?

bluegaspode
2010-12-01, 02:08
Ok - will have a look into it in a future version!

Looking at the results a screen with just cover art has the most votes (though this time the result are very close) so I guess I'll start with this as one of the next features.

Need to think a bit about how one could integrate that into the current UI design best.

thisisdavidbell
2010-12-05, 13:11
Its an absolute no brainer for me - I will buy Squeezepad as soon as it does easy player syncing - the reason I use Squeezebox over other remote control solutions is to be able to play in more than one room at once. Not having a way to do that nicely is a big deal to me.

FYI, I'm an iPeng iPhone user at the moment, but prefer the look of Squeezepad.

Great work though, keep it up.

Thanks

bluegaspode
2010-12-05, 15:35
Its an absolute no brainer for me - I will buy Squeezepad as soon as it does easy player syncing - the reason I use Squeezebox over other remote control solutions is to be able to play in more than one room at once. Not having a way to do that nicely is a big deal to me.

FYI, I'm an iPeng iPhone user at the moment, but prefer the look of Squeezepad.

Great work though, keep it up.

Thanks

I always like to understand the usage scenarios of my users better (because this might also influence on how I'll implement the syncing)
How often do you need to change sync settings? On a regular basis?

I do have 4 Squeezeboxes and rarely need to sync them (party times are almost over :) ). And even when in need to sync the 'logitech way' (i.e. switching to the target player and going to the settings menu) is good enough to do the job.
It's still easier with SqueezePad than on say on a Touch, because switching between players is much faster (i.e. needs less taps).

Looking at the poll player syncing is on second place (with the same number of votes as 'more images' and 'better search'). Still interesting how this will turn out!

thisisdavidbell
2010-12-05, 16:08
Cheers for te reply. Great to see a dev really trying to give people what they want. To be honest, it's the missus who uses sync most, when cleaning the house or moving between rooms. She perhaps syncs 2 rooms together an average of 5 times a week maybe, but she listens to music in just one room several times a day so being able to sync and unsync in a really user friendly way is a must if I'm going to keep her using squeezebox rather than putting the iPhone on the side with the music playing out it's poxy speaker ;-)

erland
2010-12-05, 18:31
I always like to understand the usage scenarios of my users better (because this might also influence on how I'll implement the syncing)
How often do you need to change sync settings? On a regular basis?

I do have 4 Squeezeboxes and rarely need to sync them (party times are almost over :) ). And even when in need to sync the 'logitech way' (i.e. switching to the target player and going to the settings menu) is good enough to do the job.
It's still easier with SqueezePad than on say on a Touch, because switching between players is much faster (i.e. needs less taps).

I'm not really using synching much myself, so I might not understand the exact needs, but maybe something really simple (from a user perspective) would cover most cases. What if you added an option to "sync all players which is powered on" and another option to make it easy to "power off and unsync all players". Something like this would be a bit hard coded but it would make it very easy to:
- Enable synchronizing on all players for a party
- Disable synchronizing on all players when the party is finished

For users that want more specific control, they can always use the already existing options.



Looking at the poll player syncing is on second place (with the same number of votes as 'more images' and 'better search'). Still interesting how this will turn out!

Just for reference, I'm missing the LastFM artist images that makes my Touch shine every time I look at the SqueezePad screen saver, so for me, that's a lot more important than syncing options. :-)

bluegaspode
2010-12-05, 18:42
To be honest, it's the missus who uses sync most, when cleaning the house or moving between rooms. She perhaps syncs 2 rooms together an average of 5 times a week maybe, but she listens to music in just one room several times a day so being able to sync and unsync in a really user friendly way is a must if I'm going to keep her using squeezebox rather than putting the iPhone on the side with the music playing out it's poxy speaker ;-)

Ahh the missus.
erland - this weights a lot!

I guess the wishes of our better halfes are much more important than the ones from us geeks, don't you think? In the end its our wifes who allow us to buy just one more Squeezebox :D

Mhmm - to late for serious talk, haha ... need to go to bed now.

Thanks for sharing all your wishes and letting me participate in your daily usage patterns. This helps a lot!

thisisdavidbell
2010-12-06, 05:08
I have found that the missus is the perfect judge of usability. As a geek, I'll put up with some minor annoyances 'coz its cool' but I know I have to get the usability perfect for her to use it - it has to be the best and easiest solution - hence why she sometimes just plays the music out of the iPhone speaker. Its low tech, low quality music, but its easy and it works every time.

As for the idea of having a sync all and unsync all button, Im not sure. Right now, as I only use 2 players, that would be perfect - clicking just one button would be nice, but long term, I expect to have music in a number of separate rooms, eventually including a cinema room and kids and guests bed rooms - it would be a bit weird to turn on music everywhere.

I think long term I would still like to be able to sync specific rooms together. I also think iPeng have not nailed this yet - I can do it (on the iPhone) and its nicer than navigating menus, but as a test if my mum she would have no clue how to do it - there must be a clearer more obvious way.

An interesting idea for long into the future would be to be able to name synced collections of players - i.e. being able to have a "downstairs" collection of players.

bluegaspode
2010-12-06, 07:28
An interesting idea for long into the future would be to be able to name synced collections of players - i.e. being able to have a "downstairs" collection of players.

If I implement syncing it will definitely have named sync-groups.
So even if it's geeky to configure them (I'll do my best that it won't be geeky of course) your better half will be able to tap on 'downstairs' somewhere in the UI.
Just give your vote to the syncing feature to make me work on that next.

panos_k75
2010-12-06, 08:02
Stefan, that poll has been up for a while now...Stop avoiding the inevitable and start working on the larger cover views:-)

bluegaspode
2010-12-06, 11:56
Leave me some room to breathe - there are other small things I want to finish first, but yeah - need to start to think about the inevitable soon I guess.

So just a matter of time until I get all the problems iPeng has with big cover arts *sigh*

erland
2010-12-06, 12:46
Leave me some room to breathe - there are other small things I want to finish first, but yeah - need to start to think about the inevitable soon I guess.

If a lot of people would suddenly vote on "More images of your music collection" it means you would implement that first, right ?
:-)

You know, those beautiful LastFM artist images would look so nice on the iPad display ;-)

bluegaspode
2010-12-06, 14:10
If a lot of people would suddenly vote on "More images of your music collection" it means you would implement that first, right ?
:-)

I hope you don't start to create a lot of fake forum accounts now, just to push this entry ;)

In the end this list influences my decisions but there is no guarantee that I will follow it slavishly. As some items have less effort to implement than others I might also decide to start with 'low hanging fruits' if they have any relevance in this poll.

Also if a poll item is my personal favourite it gets some virtual votes from me and we should also not forget, that my wife is a big stakeholder (who says I should start a totally different - not Logitech related - App by the way)

The last poll was much easier to interpret as some result were much more dominant. In this one entries are still so close that I think I could make a huge user base happy with any item that right now has 5 votes and above.

johansombekke
2010-12-07, 13:15
Thankfully you want follow slavishly :-)

I guess a lot of people will be glad to see an even better playlist management (with the three panes). Did you eventually look at the Twitter (original) app for iPad. They've worked out someway to deal with multiple panes. And of course there's the approach with 'dots'. And as I said before I like to see a 'playlist screensaver' as well. That might be less difficult to implement... ;-)

awcm0n
2010-12-15, 15:16
Just installed SqueezePad and the first thing I found missing is the Pandora controls (like, dislike, don't play for a while). It would be great to include them in a future release, so that I can keep finetuning my stations.

bluegaspode
2010-12-15, 15:27
Just installed SqueezePad and the first thing I found missing is the Pandora controls (like, dislike, don't play for a while). It would be great to include them in a future release, so that I can keep finetuning my stations.

Hi awcm0n,
Do a long press on the cover. The context menu should contain these options.

Cheers

blueadept
2011-01-06, 04:57
The one thing I would really like, just as I used to have it on my Duet remote, is lyrics! Either from the music file itself, or from lyrics.org etc.

bluegaspode
2011-01-06, 05:42
How do you get lyrics on your Duet remote right now?
I'd consider lyrics to be part of the 'more screensavers' option (is this would be just another screensaver I guess)

pippin
2011-01-06, 08:34
(is this would be just another screensaver I guess)

Hm. Now where did you get _that_ idea from ;)

erland
2011-01-06, 23:55
How do you get lyrics on your Duet remote right now?

It's in a the context menu, I'm not sure if it's available for lyrics in tags but it is available if Song Info/Song Lyrics third party plugins are installed on the server. Lyrics in tags are scanned and stored in the database and iPeng gets them from the server, so there should be some JSON command to use to get them.

If you like to integrate Song Info/Song Lyrics plugin data in a screen saver or somewhere else than in the context menu, you want to use the "songinfoitems" command provided by "Song Info" plugin:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Song_Info_plugin
And this post might also give you some more details:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=530639#post530639

Song Info also provides the artist images from LastFM.com if you don't want to integrate with LastFM.com directly when you get to my favorite feature in the TODO list ;-)

As mentioned above, Song Info also shows its information (including Lyrics from Song Lyrics plugin) in the Context Menu and I'm guessing this already works in SqueezePad but I haven't tried it myself.

bluegaspode
2011-01-07, 01:16
As mentioned above, Song Info also shows its information (including Lyrics from Song Lyrics plugin) in the Context Menu and I'm guessing this already works in SqueezePad but I haven't tried it myself.
Hi erland, thanks for the info - that is why I was asking!

@blueadept: did you try to look in SqueezePad at the exact same place where you find your lyrics on the Duet Controller?
A context menu opens when you do a long press on a menu-item (it's the same menu you get, when you press the '+' key on the Controller).

erland
2011-01-08, 01:24
@blueadept: did you try to look in SqueezePad at the exact same place where you find your lyrics on the Duet Controller?
A context menu opens when you do a long press on a menu-item (it's the same menu you get, when you press the '+' key on the Controller).

Just to confirm, as expected the context menu works perfectly in SqueezePad.

So anyone that just wants to be able to show lyrics for a song can install Song Info and Song Lyrics plugins in SBS Settigns/Plugins and then hold a while on a track in SqueezePad and select the "Song Lyrics" item at the bottom of the context menu that appears.

jimwillsher
2011-01-08, 07:11
This probably sounds mad, but I'd actually like SqueezePad for the iPhone!

I've had an iPhone for a few months and I use iPeng. Yesterday I got an iPad and purchased SqueezePad (complete with the in-app streaming upgrade). the navigation in SqueezePad is *so* much better in SqueezePad than in iPeng. Changing players, for example, is easy in SqueezePad, via the dropdown, but in iPeng you need to do some cryptic left-scroll or right-scroll which I've never really understood - I seem to go in circles with it!

No need for streaming of course (would be nice though). But the overall navigation in SqueezePad is excellent and I'd love to see that replicated onto the iPhone.



Jim

daveconger
2011-01-11, 18:22
Love the app! Still can't believe how fast it is. Great work!

I have a request for a feature that I've never heard anyone ask for, which makes me think it is either impossible or outside normal usage. Here it is: integration of Napster and local music. I know it sounds a little crazy, but I use Napster like my own music collection (i.e., looking through artists, picking one, and playing one of their albums) and it's annoying switching between the two artist lists. If the two lists became one, it would be like having one most excellent artist list. (Likewise for the albums list, and possibly the track list.) Even if it can't be done as a single list, what about two lists side-by-side - one being the local artists and the other being the Napster artists? Or if that's still too much, what about having searches return results from Napster and local music? Any of these 3 implementations would really be outstanding. Thanks!

erland
2011-01-11, 23:35
I have a request for a feature that I've never heard anyone ask for, which makes me think it is either impossible or outside normal usage. Here it is: integration of Napster and local music. I know it sounds a little crazy, but I use Napster like my own music collection (i.e., looking through artists, picking one, and playing one of their albums) and it's annoying switching between the two artist lists. If the two lists became one, it would be like having one most excellent artist list. (Likewise for the albums list, and possibly the track list.) Even if it can't be done as a single list, what about two lists side-by-side - one being the local artists and the other being the Napster artists? Or if that's still too much, what about having searches return results from Napster and local music? Any of these 3 implementations would really be outstanding. Thanks!
I would love this but I like to use Spotify instead of Napster.

I really don't care if the music comes from my local library or one of the online services I'm paying for. If I have an album in my local library I want the system to use that, else I want it to use the one from the online service. Possibly with an extra dialog asking if I like to use the version in the online service.

Unfortunately, I suspect this is a bit out of scope of the current SqueezePad client. I suspect something like this requires support on the server side.

However, something that probably could be done is something similar to what Triode has done with the Spotify plugin. When you open the context menu on an artist in the local library you get an "On Spotify" item at the bottom and by selecting that you will get a list of albums by this artist available in Spotify with the option to play them. I suspect something like this would be possible to add to SqueezePad for the Napster service.

Another possible solution is if it's possible to create a favorite for a Napster artist ? If that's possible, you might be able to setup favorites for all your local artists and for all the Napster artists you are interested in and get a common list of them under the Favorites menu. The issue is just that you probably don't want to do this manually if you have a lot of artists. A "Favorite Artists" lists is probably realistic to do manually but not a "All Artists" list.

bluegaspode
2011-01-12, 11:58
Interesting ideas.

But as erland said might be difficult for SqueezePad.
For instance when browsing Napster menus, SqueezePad actually doesn't even know it's showing Napster-Menus. It just gets a list of menuitems which are either playable or have a submenu.

As of the other idea: a context menu for the local library (here it might be possible to realize when I'm in the albums or artists list) especially for Napster ... have to analyze if the Napster menus have some special commands to start them.

Right now I don't have a Napster account, put will put it on the list of things to investigate!

Thanks a lot for sharing your ideas!

gorman
2011-01-12, 14:01
Changing players, for example, is easy in SqueezePad, via the dropdown, but in iPeng you need to do some cryptic left-scroll or right-scroll which I've never really understood - I seem to go in circles with And to think that I so much prefer iPeng for IPhone navigation to iPeng for iPad navigation... Go figure :)

TheLastMan
2011-01-13, 08:55
Another possible solution is if it's possible to create a favorite for a Napster artist ? If that's possible, you might be able to setup favorites for all your local artists and for all the Napster artists you are interested in and get a common list of them under the Favorites menu.
Yes you can do this, I do it all the time. You can create a SqueezeBox Favorite from a Napster artist or album. Click on an artist Favorite and it gives you a list of their albums on the Napster service.

I find it much quicker than negotiating Napster's own "library" function. This does mean there is no entry in the Napster library web interface for that artist, but I almost never use Napster on the web anyway - unless I am buying tracks with my allowance.

I tend to use this for artists I want to listen to, but do not have ripped or downloaded music for already - and they tend to change over time.
This week I be mainly listening to The Hold Steady...

Jeff Flowerday
2011-01-13, 09:03
Something Else:

I vote for better caching. I have thousands of artists, and I find it annoying to have to wait 10+ seconds while the artist list is generated on first use. My server is an overclocked quad core beast with lots of ram and a Raid 10 disc subsystem. Wirless N network. Choosing all albums is even worst.


A portrait view of some sort would be nice as well.

bluegaspode
2011-01-13, 09:37
Something Else:

I vote for better caching. I have thousands of artists, and I find it annoying to have to wait 10+ seconds while the artist list is generated on first use.

But how should I speed this up, if your server needs this time to send the menu?
The only thing I could do is to render the menu even if its not fully loaded, which would only help if you want to select one of the first entries.

Jeff Flowerday
2011-01-13, 10:17
But how should I speed this up, if your server needs this time to send the menu?
The only thing I could do is to render the menu even if its not fully loaded, which would only help if you want to select one of the first entries.

I don't know. But iPeng doesn't have the issue, the lists are there right now. Performance is a big thing for me, my music library continues to grow at a crazy rate.

bluegaspode
2011-01-13, 10:59
I don't know. But iPeng doesn't have the issue, the lists are there right now. Performance is a big thing for me, my music library continues to grow at a crazy rate.
Just don't know how I could legally grow my library to even come close to yours.
What type of music are you listening to that it is growing at a crazy rate (and how do you manage to listen to all that?)

Jeff Flowerday
2011-01-13, 12:18
Just don't know how I could legally grow my library to even come close to yours.
What type of music are you listening to that it is growing at a crazy rate (and how do you manage to listen to all that?)

Mines all legal. I buy allot of dirt cheap used CDs at pawn shops etc. I'm at 6951 albums right now. 2.5TBs of flac lossless.

It's impossible to listen to it all, but it's turned into a collector disease for me, I'm constantly adding cool new stuff I find.

andyman99
2011-01-13, 13:50
As a rather clumsy fat fingered 54 year old, the one thing I can't seem to get working right is the playlists. Seem to keep getting a few tracks added and then select an album instead of a single track. I understand the principle but don't seem to quite have the dexterity to implement it! So have voted for this option.

KMorgan
2011-01-13, 14:15
1. Readily available repeat/shuffle controls.

2. A little icon that shows what the present music source is Napster/Spotify/My Music etc.

3. More intuitive sync control.

bluegaspode
2011-01-13, 14:26
As a rather clumsy fat fingered 54 year old, the one thing I can't seem to get working right is the playlists. Seem to keep getting a few tracks added and then select an album instead of a single track. I understand the principle but don't seem to quite have the dexterity to implement it! So have voted for this option.

Hi andyman99,
can you describe this in more detail?

If you select a single track the whole album is added?
This might be just an option in the Squeezebox-Server Settings Screen.
Go to Settings->Player->Basic Settings (in the web-interface of your server) and look for the option "Play Other Songs In Album".

Or is your problem that you erroneously created a playlist - but then tap an album and the playlist gets cleared? Then you should have a look into the settings-screen of SqueezePad for the 'playlist modification mode'. Here you can change the behaviour when you tap on items.

If these two answers don't refer to your problem I did not understand it yet from your description :)

bluegaspode
2011-01-13, 14:31
Hi KMorgen,

thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts!
One question to understand your request a little bit better ... and some further comments:


1. Readily available repeat/shuffle controls.
How often do you change these modes?
Right now I decided to leave those options in the settings menu to keep a cleaner interface, because I thought they are not needed very often for the majority of users.


2. A little icon that shows what the present music source is Napster/Spotify/My Music etc.
This might be difficult. When a stream is playing SqueezePad (to my knowledge) is not able to determine the source. It just sees the name/artist of the screen (which it renders already).
So right know I'm afraid this request cannot be implemented.


3. More intuitive sync control.
This can be voted :) ... and I see that it gets more attention right now in the poll.

KMorgan
2011-01-14, 01:50
Bluegaspode

I use the shuffle on/off quite regularly. General listening or friends round, shuffle-on. Specific listening shuffle-off. Not so much the repeat. I would have thought there was plenty of room beside the FF/Pause/RWD controls.

How about a side-swipe of the album art turning it over to reveal the lyrics? And/or LastFM track description?

Regards sync. In the present drop down player selection menu, each player could have a check box beside it to choose sync or no-sync.

Keep up the good work!

Keith

pippin
2011-01-14, 02:59
I use the shuffle on/off quite regularly. General listening or friends round, shuffle-on. Specific listening shuffle-off. Not so much the repeat. I would have thought there was plenty of room beside the FF/Pause/RWD controls.

How about a side-swipe of the album art turning it over to reveal the lyrics? And/or LastFM track description?

Regards sync. In the present drop down player selection menu, each player could have a check box beside it to choose sync or no-sync.


In other words: Hey, just make SqueezePad look like iPeng for iPad :D

bluegaspode
2011-01-14, 03:34
In other words: Hey, just make SqueezePad look like iPeng for iPad :D
No
In Squeezepad people would still be able to actually hit the buttons they intended to hit.

DaveWr
2011-01-14, 03:39
Could we refrain from bitching.....

andyman99
2011-01-14, 10:07
Originally posted by bluegaspode

Or is your problem that you erroneously created a playlist - but then tap an album and the playlist gets cleared? Then you should have a look into the settings-screen of SqueezePad for the 'playlist modification mode'. Here you can change the behaviour when you tap on items.

Yes, changing to "Always add to end" works much better for me. Excellent you've thought of everything! Many thanks

Andy

erland
2011-01-14, 10:43
In other words: Hey, just make SqueezePad look like iPeng for iPad :D


No
In Squeezepad people would still be able to actually hit the buttons they intended to hit.


Could we refrain from bitching.....

Or at least put it in the iPeng vs Squeezepad thread we already have:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84685

I think it's great with the competition and it's great to see that these apps focus on different areas as this will make sure more people find a satisfactory remote control for their Squeezebox. We don't need two apps that works exactly the same, two apps that focus on different aspects and different areas, as we currently have, will give us a choice.

However, if possible, I suggest to at least put the "my app is better than your app" related arguments in a separate thread.

Now, back to work, I really want those LastFM artist images on my iPad screen, something that finally would make the iPad look better than the Squeezebox Touch. I wonder who gets there first... ;-)

pippin
2011-01-14, 11:25
Sorry, at least from my side this wasn't meant to be a "my app is better than your app" argument (my App _IS_ better, I don't need that argument) but I wanted to make the point bluegaspode himself made: he has a different philosophy about how the app should look like than I have. His primary objective is that the app is simple and as close to SqueezePlay as possible while my primary objective is to make it as efficient to use as possible.
All the points I referred to are against bluegaspode's paradigm and are things that are already there in iPeng.
If he followed all the requests that suggests to make things more efficient and I follow all the requests that suggest to make it more like SqueezePlay we'll end up with two very similar apps.

browellm
2011-01-14, 12:42
Could we refrain from bitching.....

Agreed, it would be better if you stayed out of each other's threads imho.

bluegaspode
2011-01-14, 12:45
my App _IS_ better, I don't need that argument
Just for the protocol: I disagree.
But to argue (or raise that argument again) is just silly - as erland said our definitions (and that of many users) of 'better' vastly differ and we talked about it already.

As this is the thread about improvements of SqueezePad I'd also prefer to answer future suggestions about SqueezePad myself.

Thanks a lot.

pippin
2011-01-14, 12:46
Yep. Sorry, will stay out of here.

JerryS
2011-01-14, 15:35
"21 Teil II-Fur Erwach...nge aus dem Theater" in a play list is lacking in elegance and detracts from the otherwise aesthetically pleasing functionality of the product. Is it possible to implement scrolling to fix such contractions?

Jerry

KMorgan
2011-01-15, 11:37
Hi Bluegaspode

One more possibility.

I like that Squeezepad is very controller-like. How about allowing home menu modification, just like on the controller. e.g. I would have Napster and Spotify on the home menu, rather than under sub menus.

Keith

Dentaku
2011-01-15, 12:01
I want to see the track durations in playlist end search result.

Frorsteig
2011-01-22, 07:59
I use the shuffle on/off quite regularly. General listening or friends round, shuffle-on. Specific listening shuffle-off. Not so much the repeat. I would have thought there was plenty of room beside the FF/Pause/RWD controls.

This is a function I also find that I miss. The Squeezebox Server method feels clunky having to press Home>Settings>Shuffle (song/album/off) if I had forgotten to do it earlier. I find that I usually forget it was on shuffle and if I want to listen to an album without it, then have to clear the playlist and start over. Having a toggle would provide quicker change as well as a visual clue as to the current state.

ThomP
2011-01-24, 03:53
Another vote for better sync'ing!

My request is to have different setups defined and being able to choose between them by pressing a single "button" - preferably on the main screen.

I have players in the kitchen, living room and bathroom + a controller. For those players I would create at least these setups for different scenarios:

1) Normal; All players synced. Controller separate.

2) Bath; Kitchen and living room synced, bathroom separate, Controller separate.

3) Alternative; All players and controller synced (I know that the controller doesn't sync well, but it's ok for listening to the same music in the garage).

The setups should not just be groups but complete definitions of all players - in other words it should be possible to define several groups in one setup.
Switching control between groups in a setup should just be like switching between players.

P.S.: I won't get my iPad until march, but I know from using iPeng for iPod and Squeeze Commander for Android that sync handling can be improved compared to both of these apps:-)

bluegaspode
2011-01-24, 04:37
The setups should not just be groups but complete definitions of all players - in other words it should be possible to define several groups in one setup.
I think this will be too complicated.
- from the UI that has to configure that
- for the user who has to be asked multiple music sources for each subgroup in a setup, when it is activated.

As I see this it should be sufficient to have multiple named 'simple' groups (like the three you described).
When users switch sync settings they typically do that for a particalur reason (i.e. starting a party, going to the bathroom, going to the garage ...).

Rarely I think this involves using multiple non-overlapping sync-groups at once (and even if: they could be activated with one click more).

Where would you need multiple sync groups in one setup?

From your scenarios I see an interesting use case though: Until now I only thought about synching a group of players -> but not unsyncing.
So I need to think a bit more about how users are supposed to get back from scenario 3 to 2.

One solution would be to unsync everyone else that is not in the group?

erland
2011-01-24, 10:35
I think this will be too complicated.
- from the UI that has to configure that
- for the user who has to be asked multiple music sources for each subgroup in a setup, when it is activated.

I definitely agree, we need to remember that a few people might have a lot of players but most people interested in the synchronization functionality are only going to have 2 or 3 players.

To me, the sync groups is more about having a logical name for a group and easily being able to start playing music in a specific group without the need to mess around with sync settings in all the players not in the group.

Another issue is that I'm going to want to be able to handle this on multiple remote controls. When I'm in the living room I'm going to have the iPad but when I move to another room I might only have access to the iPhone in my pocket. Due to this, I have a feeling a server side plugin would be a better solution than an implementation directly in an iPad/iPhone app, at least as long as the sync group definitions are stored locally in the app.

The obvious disadvantage with using a server side plugin is that it's not going to work with MySB.com.

ThomP
2011-01-24, 13:19
I think this will be too complicated.
- from the UI that has to configure that
- for the user who has to be asked multiple music sources for each subgroup in a setup, when it is activated.


The way I see it the first point doesn't have to be too complicated - it is basically a two-level grouping: When you define a scenario, you create and assign one or more groups to the scenario and assign each player to exactly one group.

I didn't really consider the second point - possibly because I rarely sync players during playback, but I can see how this could cause problems:-)

You might also be right that it is overkill - and I don't have the use case for it at the moment either. The main reasons for the idea was:

1) It seemed logical that the app should always know and control the state of all players.

2) Sometimes players are logically connected and should never be unsynced (i.e. our "living room" and "kitchen" are not separated by walls so playing different music on those would be quite confusing so they are either both playing the same or one of them is switched off). If you have more players like this it would make sense to be able to keep them synced even when you change group setup.



When users switch sync settings they typically do that for a particalur reason (i.e. starting a party, going to the bathroom, going to the garage ...).


I only change sync settings if my wife wants to listen to something in the shower and I want to listen to something different in the living room or vice versa:) the rest I control by switching players on or off - but that may be because sync control from the players is so lousy:)



Rarely I think this involves using multiple non-overlapping sync-groups at once (and even if: they could be activated with one click more).


Probably true!



From your scenarios I see an interesting use case though: Until now I only thought about synching a group of players -> but not unsyncing.
So I need to think a bit more about how users are supposed to get back from scenario 3 to 2.


By making sure you don't just activate a group but a complete scenario that covers the sync state of all players;)



One solution would be to unsync everyone else that is not in the group?

That would probably satisfy my needs.

I haven't really thought about what should happen to the playlist when a group is unsynced (partially or completely) - going from my scenario 1 to 2 or 3 to 2. In my case I would probably prefer that the "old" group playlist was transferred to all players involved, because sometimes the playlist "belongs" to the bathroom, and sometimes to the rest of the house.

BTW: Again, based on my use, no matter how groups are defined and synced, it is important that syncing or unsyncing doesn't change the on/off state of players!

ThomP
2011-01-24, 13:36
Another issue is that I'm going to want to be able to handle this on multiple remote controls. When I'm in the living room I'm going to have the iPad but when I move to another room I might only have access to the iPhone in my pocket. Due to this, I have a feeling a server side plugin would be a better solution than an implementation directly in an iPad/iPhone app, at least as long as the sync group definitions are stored locally in the app.

Maybe Squeezepad should just have a user friendly interface to control groups defined in another plugin - "The Synchronizer"?
I suppose it makes sense to use existing functionality whenever possible. The disadvantage is dependency...

starcat
2011-02-19, 17:05
Just voted by incident to More Images of Your Music Library instead to TrackStat Ratings.. perhaps some of the mods may switch that vote over to TrackStat Ratings. Thanks!

ferraris
2011-02-21, 11:34
Hi,

When you click the playlist button the window that slides out covers the music controls (previous track, pause, next track). Is it possible to shorten the height of that window to leave them accessible?

Simon

bluegaspode
2011-02-21, 13:56
Hi Simon,

I thought a long time if I should hide the controls with the playlist pane and came to the conclusion the (apart from the 'stop' button) those controls are actaully not needed, when the playlist is open.

Prev+next+play are not needed, because you can just tap on the song you want to hear.
And I guess most of the time when you want to stop a song, you don't need the playlist anymore so can close it.

At least that was my thinking.
When do you need those controls most, even when the playlist is open?
I think just shorten the height of the list does not look too good (I tried it, but did not like it).

One idea I have for the future is, that one can also slide out the main menu. The background (i.e the big cover and title of the current playing song) together with the play/stop/next/prev controls would slide to the left then.
So you would have a mode with just the playlist open and the main controls still accessible.

Don't know yet when I get time to implement it but thought that it would look and feel quite cool.

magnus428
2011-03-28, 06:39
Cool sync feature:

An idea would be to have a drag and drop sync, where you under the volume control could drag a player and drop it onto another, to sync them.

bluegaspode
2011-03-28, 09:10
SCNR :)
Please resist.

pippin
2011-03-28, 09:17
Please resist.

OK, I'll try...
Post deleted.

Khj999
2011-09-29, 07:44
I've been using Squeezepad for about a year, I love it and it just keeps getting better.

What would make it perfect for me would be the inclusion of the functionality of net-udap and squeezeconfig to enable set up of player network modes and IP addreses from the iPad.

Thanks.

bluegaspode
2011-09-29, 10:14
I've been using Squeezepad for about a year, I love it and it just keeps getting better.

What would make it perfect for me would be the inclusion of the functionality of net-udap and squeezeconfig to enable set up of player network modes and IP addreses from the iPad.

Thanks.

Hi Khj999,

I'm afraid that for various reasons I decided against it.
Most important of all: iTunes App Store reviews are cruel. If something does not work easy and intuitive (or just does not work some times) you'll get bashed to the ground in a very destructive way (at least from the developers point of view).

Net-UDAP is about to not work for most people (as you need to wire the stuff) and it also won't be inuitive.

So I had to create a second free App - to keep SqueezePad save from Net-Udap comments/ratings. But then had to do all the support for the people, which is also not on the list of things to do in my free time.

I'm also not sure if it would pass App-Store review, as the Apple guys wouldn't be able to test such an App at all.

Last but not least: the Receiver is abandoned by Logitech.

Hope you are not too disappointed by this decision.

Doing some final quality assurance this weekend, then SqueezePad 1.9 is on it's way to the AppStore ...

feelaup
2011-10-19, 10:53
Theres an app that allows you to stream music off the local drive of an ipod touch or ipad called airmusic. Is there anyway to get this feature built into the squeezebox app or into the squeeze center? I'd love to stream music from my ipod touch in addition to my computer, as I don't often have my computer up and running.

bluegaspode
2011-10-19, 11:16
Without your server running, your Squeezebox cannot receive any stream (only the ones provided by mysqueezebox.com and these cannot be influence by 3rd party Apps).

And if your server is running, it's very likely that it hosts more music than your iPad.

So I'm afraid I think it's very unlikely that you will see something like that in an iPad-App.

pippin
2011-10-19, 11:46
The interesting part is that it's on the App Store even though I would believe it violates section 9.1 of the App Store Review Guidelines, or have I missed any new functionality?

topster
2011-11-19, 12:20
Hello,

I voted for better search as it'll be much easier to find music without selecting multiple options. Also, as part of "Better search", being able to do a "lazy search", where items are automatically displayed based on the search string, would be even better.

One minor enhancement request: I love soundtracks and want to be able to browse my soundtrack albums and select one to play easily. However, choosing My Music->Genres->Soundtrack displays all the artists before "All Albums". Since "All Albums" is a single entry, it would be nice to see it at the top rather than the bottom of the list.

Thanks for the great job!

Oh, and portrait mode support please.


Cheers!

Gilles2
2011-11-21, 04:16
There are good examples available in vaious players like the VU meters or others. Would love to see some of those (or other creative ideas) implemented in SqueezePad

virtualien
2011-11-24, 04:36
my wish:
My ipad 2 rests in landscape mode on an Bluelounge Nest in an angle of about 15-20°. When you click on album art, the album art appears in upright format, which is stupid (iPengHD keeps it in landscape). SqueezePad only does it right if the iPad stands in an angle > 40°.

In future you should just keep the orientation of the SqueezePad when the Album art window pops up.

keep the good work

bluegaspode
2011-11-24, 15:50
Hi topster,


One minor enhancement request: I love soundtracks and want to be able to browse my soundtrack albums and select one to play easily. However, choosing My Music->Genres->Soundtrack displays all the artists before "All Albums". Since "All Albums" is a single entry, it would be nice to see it at the top rather than the bottom of the list.


SqueezePads design decision is to use the official menus from the Squeezebox.
If you want the order in this menu changed, you will need to ask Logitech to change the menu for all Squeezeboxes :)

bluegaspode
2011-11-24, 15:51
There are good examples available in vaious players like the VU meters or others. Would love to see some of those (or other creative ideas) implemented in SqueezePad

Hi Gilles,
very interesting idea, though I doubt I will have some spare time for visualizers.
Anyway - I wrote it down and if I ever do a poll again, this might be one of the options to see what others think about it!

bluegaspode
2011-11-24, 15:54
my wish:
My ipad 2 rests in landscape mode on an Bluelounge Nest in an angle of about 15-20°. When you click on album art, the album art appears in upright format, which is stupid (iPengHD keeps it in landscape). SqueezePad only does it right if the iPad stands in an angle > 40°.

In future you should just keep the orientation of the SqueezePad when the Album art window pops up.

keep the good work

Hi virtualien.
Interesting find! I just fixed this on my local iPad tonight, so it will be available with the next SqueezePad update. I don't know though when this will be published, there is just one minor update to be released this weekend (which obviously doesn't have the fix yet) and I don't have more bugfixes to do yet.

If you don't want to wait an unknown (but finite :) ) time, please drop me a line at support(at)squeezepad.com.

VirusKiller
2011-11-26, 07:55
Home menu editing / configuration is the #1 priority for me, so I can see CustomBrowse items at the top level.

virtualien
2011-11-27, 14:58
Hi virtualien.
Interesting find! I just fixed this on my local iPad tonight, .....

Many thanks, you are always welcome. When below described "misbehavior" gets fixed I will embrace your "sneak preview" offer :)

setup:
SqueezePad controls Squeezeslave (SqueezePads internal player can be either on or off, it does not matter).

good behavior:
SqueezePad runs all day long, the music plays, SqueezePad is on top and visible. On certain occasions I put on the smart cover, the music keeps on playing. When the smart cover is removed within 10 minutes the SqueezePad is still alive and on top of the screen (just the way you left it). 10 minutes and more under smart cover the music still keeps on playing. So far all is greatly appreciated.

misbehavior:
If you remove the smart cover later than 10 minutes after you put it on you will see your home screen. SqueezePad has to be opened again from the multitasking bar. SqueezePad immediately displays the status of the current song, it "feels" like it just went into "multitasking" mode (iPengHD shows identical misbehavior).

what has been so far "discovered":
- when the smart cover is removed 9:50 after you put it on, SqueezePad is still on top, but there is a message "Server disconnected". The message disappears and SqueezePad stays on top of the screen.

- iPads integrated Apple music player always stays on top, no matter how long it is covered and no matter if it actually plays or not. iOS settings should be fine (auto-lock=never, Passcode Lock=Off)


my wish:
Please let SqueezePad stay "on top" of the screen even when the iPad 2 is covered by smart cover. This should be standard behavior, no "option" needed, let it just behave like the Apple music player.

bluegaspode
2011-11-27, 16:08
my wish:
Please let SqueezePad stay "on top" of the screen even when the iPad 2 is covered by smart cover. This should be standard behavior, no "option" needed, let it just behave like the Apple music player.

This started with iOS5 and I'm afraid it is supposed (by Apple) to be that way (maybe to better save battery power?)
Apples own Apps cannot be taken as comparison, their Apps always could do things that 'normal' Apps were not allowed to do.

Others are having the problem too, here is one of the public posts: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8063220/problems-with-application-state-changes-in-ios5

pippin
2011-11-27, 16:25
Bluegaspode,

What he's describing here is that the home screen shows up automatically (like with a crashed app). I believe you will be violating the background execution time so the app gets terminated after 10 min.

mfaine
2011-12-08, 13:45
What I would like to see more than anything is the ability to stream directly from the Logitech media center interface, much like is done with Google Music. A client should be integrated directly into the web application so I can stream my music from anywhere.

bluegaspode
2011-12-08, 13:57
but with SqueezePad you CAN stream your music from anywhere (when you've setup your router correctly) ?
And with a much nicer interface than the web-interface.

So who still needs the web-interface?

Well ok - obviously one needs an iPad:)

virtualien
2011-12-10, 11:00
Bluegaspode,

What he's describing here is that the home screen shows up automatically (like with a crashed app). I believe you will be violating the background execution time so the app gets terminated after 10 min.
Unfortunately that is what I was talking about. Is there no workaround? Is there a way to tell iOS every 9 minutes that the app is not in background (even while in smart cover stand-by). If there is no workaround I have to keep the light on all the time. Why does apple makes it so difficult to save some energy?

I really like the magnets of iPad 2 because they seem to be the only method to get back to the userinterface without the need of click and slide. My iPad rests in a stand close to a tiny but strong magnet, so the iPad is in standby while playing music. When I want to use SqueezePad I just grab the iPad from the stand and automatically it is enabled showing the user interface where I left it. Neither click nor slide is needed here. Or I just move the magnet for some millimeters and Squeezepad shows its information before I move the magnet back to its "dark" position. Unfortunately that only works in the first 9:59 minutes, after that you always have to again open your app.

pippin
2011-12-10, 11:10
It's not difficult at least if you stick to these 10min. It would be an App error.

virtualien
2011-12-10, 12:18
If you use an electromagnet to put the iPad into stand-by mode, you can interupt the magnet by use of a timer every 9:50 minutes (the electromagnet can hide in the iPad stand). This also would enable you to remotely switch on/off the iPad ;)
Belkin & Co. should come up with a stand with built in electromagnets which can be actuated by either timer or remote.

Anyway, apple should give the user the option to set background execution time limit from 10 min to unlimited (when plugged to an power supply).

bluegaspode
2011-12-11, 04:12
Unfortunately that is what I was talking about. Is there no workaround?
I will see if I can find a workaround and if so to release it before christmas.

bluegaspode
2011-12-11, 17:15
Unfortunately that is what I was talking about. Is there no workaround?
I think I found the problem. I had a line of code duplicated, which should've been there only once.
This might be a new SqueezePad bugfix release with the least changes in lines of code (i.e.: just one line deleted :D )

Do you want to test if it resolves your problem?
If so please drop me a line at support@squeezepad.com.

Please provide your iPad ID (use this free App to obtain: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ad-hoc-helper/id285691333?mt=8)

soundcheck
2012-02-05, 11:09
I'd love to see an albumart selection feature similar to iPeng, JRMC, iTunes, you name it.

If you run large collections, it's so much more comfortable to scan your collection by looking for album art
tables.

TextSearch is usually not that easy. Out of my 1000 albums I can hardly remember what searchstring to go for. I'd miss probably 50% of my collection. If I'd scan the covers more comfortable it'd be much easier.

With IPeng I manage to have 30 thumbnails on one page. That's great. Within shortest time you can scan 200-300 albums. Something like that should make it into Squeezepad.

The pity:

I prefer the overall design of Squeezepad over iPeng.

I' d really like to use it.

However. Because of that missing feature I still use iPeng.

I keep the fingers crossed to find that feature sooner or later.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers

pippin
2012-02-05, 11:26
With IPeng I manage to have 30 thumbnails on one page. That's great. Within shortest time you can scan 200-300 albums. Something like that should make it into Squeezepad.

The pity:

I prefer the overall design of Squeezepad over iPeng.


The pity: it's exactly that overall design which allows 30 thumbnails on one page in iPeng, or at least the "use available space for content instead of beautifying the App" bit of it...

I agree there are things you can dislike about iPeng for iPad but it uses more than twice as much space for the actual menus as SqueezePad. With the size of SqueezePad's content Window even iPeng wouldn't show more than two album per row in artwork mode which would bring the number of albums possible in that window to 8, which, by coincidence, is the number SqueezePad, too, is showing now.
Change that and you get closer and closer to how iPeng looks like...

bluegaspode
2012-02-06, 13:54
I'd love to see an albumart selection feature similar to iPeng, JRMC, iTunes, you name it.

Hi Soundcheck,
thanks for the suggestion.

Unfortunately it's not very easy to include such a feature (so that most users would like it I guess).

Attached you'll find a design study I once did. As you can see this study adheres to the current SqueezePad layout (i.e. just uses the left menu bar).
One will have bigger covers but to still print the album name there is not enough room left.

Maybe looks a little bit nicer though than the current album view, but much less information -> you probably will be slower with browsing albums this way.


What could be the alternative?
Well - full screen cover wall of course!
But: how to switch from current menu style to full screen cover in a nice and intuitive way?
Also after selecting an album, we have to switch back to the track view so whatever animation we use: it might feel a little bit unsettled if the left menu always grows and shrinks.

So far I didn't come up with a good idea that felt intuitive, but I'm open to any suggestion!
In the end SqueezePad always strives to be more intuitive than iPeng (oh noes, now pippin will answer again ;)) and I won't sacrifice this main directive for a big but clumsy album wall too easily :)

ad6922
2012-03-30, 15:42
I votes for something else. I use music folders to browse to my music and I hope to see that button
on the main screen which either makes a new button or make it changeable by user (so on the place from the buttons for artists, albums and favorites)

mcrex
2012-04-21, 23:35
This is my first post. Congratulations on a wonderful app. Is there any possibility of an ipod touch version? It's so much handier for carrying around in your pocket. many thanks

bluegaspode
2012-04-22, 11:40
This is my first post. Congratulations on a wonderful app. Is there any possibility of an ipod touch version? It's so much handier for carrying around in your pocket. many thanks

Hi mcrex,

right now I don't plan a version for iPhone or iPod Touch. I don't even have one of those devices :)

On your iPod Touch you could either use the Logitech App or iPeng.

erland
2012-04-22, 22:24
This is my first post. Congratulations on a wonderful app. Is there any possibility of an ipod touch version? It's so much handier for carrying around in your pocket. many thanks

Just out of interest, did you not know about the Logitech and iPeng apps or is there a specific reason why you would like an iPod Touch version of SqueezePad ?

nonnoroger
2012-04-28, 07:14
Something else
If you think your most important feature is not in the list, vote here and comment in this thread.
If this point gets enough votes I'll start the poll again with different options :D

As communicated to you directly recently, I would vote for the ability to alter menus as on the SB Touch. It would be most helpful for my wife and myself, and I hope others, to be able to have a consistent menu interface between the iPad and the Touch.

Many thanks for all your work on the App!

oysarl
2012-08-23, 01:12
First of all, thank your for a great app which I use pretty much every day.

You have probably been asked this several times before, but..

In regards to the "better search" post on the poll, would it be possible to have a search bar integrated in the squeezepad interface separated from the navigation menu? Browsing my own music isn't a problem as I usually just navigate from the album list, but when I am using Wimp and want to make a playlist of several different songs, I find it a bit inconvenient to do many consecutive searches (back to menu, enter Wimp, scroll down to search, etc.)

Another issue I have occurs when I'm making a mixed playlist from wimp and my music library. If I'm using the "always add to end" option, selecting a song in wimp adds that song to the list, while selecting a song from my library adds the entire album to the playlist. I don't know if this is an issue with squeezebox or the squeezepad, and whether it can be fixed either through my settings or with a modification of the app.

Again, thank you for an excellent app, and your attention to the users is admirable.

Best regards,
Řystein

pippin
2012-08-23, 02:23
In regards to the "better search" post on the poll, would it be possible to have a search bar integrated in the squeezepad interface separated from the navigation menu?

:)


Another issue I have occurs when I'm making a mixed playlist from wimp and my music library. If I'm using the "always add to end" option, selecting a song in wimp adds that song to the list, while selecting a song from my library adds the entire album to the playlist. I don't know if this is an issue with squeezebox or the squeezepad, and whether it can be fixed either through my settings or with a modification of the app.

You should be able to set "Play other tracks in Album" in your player settings to "off" in the server settings.
Or you can use the context menu (hold the item), if you add through that it should only add a single track.

oysarl
2012-09-05, 02:49
:)

You should be able to set "Play other tracks in Album" in your player settings to "off" in the server settings.
Or you can use the context menu (hold the item), if you add through that it should only add a single track.

Thank you for the response pippin, that is exactly the function I was looking for.

bobscomp
2016-07-18, 11:54
You really need an android version, love your product on my iPad Pro, but need it on my android cellphone