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Jim McCall
2004-08-30, 12:46
Hi,


I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding work...)
I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right now I am
in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the money into
an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell the SB
and I would rather do it here than on ebay.

Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at my
computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using the
remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.

Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the new
graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.

I live in san francisco.

Jim

Tim Morley
2004-08-30, 12:51
Read all that, got excited, the saw you were in usa ;(

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim McCall" <jim (AT) elasticmedia (DOT) com>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: [slim] I may have a Graphic Squeezebox for sale


> Hi,
>
>
> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
work...)
> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right now I
am
> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the money
into
> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell the
SB
> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>
> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at my
> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using the
> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>
> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the new
> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>
> I live in san francisco.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

Greg Pine
2004-08-30, 13:25
Jim, contact me off list. I'm interested in aquiring a SBG.

Greg Pine
Greg (AT) GPine (DOT) com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim McCall" <jim (AT) elasticmedia (DOT) com>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: [slim] I may have a Graphic Squeezebox for sale


> Hi,
>
>
> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
work...)
> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right now I
am
> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the money
into
> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell the
SB
> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>
> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at my
> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using the
> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>
> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the new
> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>
> I live in san francisco.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

Ken
2004-09-06, 11:05
Jim,

I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with a main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with you about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys did a very good job on the default web interface, its not really a replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of the Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in lieu of a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration (in spite of my strong endorsement of the SB).

In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get used to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its become fairly indispensable to me.

Ken

Jim McCall wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding work...)
> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right now I am
> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the money into
> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell the SB
> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>
> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at my
> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using the
> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>
> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the new
> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>
> I live in san francisco.
>
> Jim

seanadams
2004-09-06, 11:27
Ken,

Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
interface that they have not published to any third parties.

Sean

On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with a
> main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with you
> about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys did a
> very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of the
> Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in lieu of
> a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration (in spite
> of my strong endorsement of the SB).
>
> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get used
> to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its become
> fairly indispensable to me.
>
> Ken
>
> Jim McCall wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
>> work...)
>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
>> now I am
>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
>> money into
>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell
>> the SB
>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at
>> my
>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using
>> the
>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the
>> new
>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>> I live in san francisco.
>> Jim
>
>

Ken
2004-09-06, 19:44
Sean,

If this is indeed the case, then Roku is not simply being misleading, but is out and out lying in their advertisement of the M1000 and M2000 units. Given their position with the reasonably successful HD1000 product, it seems very risky for them to practice this level of deception. They may indeed be doing just that, but this type of fraud would spell disaster for the company if it were determined to be true.

Are you certain that no relationship exists between Roku and Apple with respect to iTunes integration?

Ken

Sean Adams wrote:

>
> Ken,
>
> Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
> airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
> interface that they have not published to any third parties.
>
> Sean
>
> On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with a
>> main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with you
>> about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys did a
>> very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
>> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
>> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of the
>> Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in lieu of
>> a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration (in spite
>> of my strong endorsement of the SB).
>>
>> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get used
>> to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its become
>> fairly indispensable to me.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Jim McCall wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
>>> work...)
>>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
>>> now I am
>>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
>>> money into
>>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell
>>> the SB
>>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while at my
>>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with using
>>> the
>>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed the
>>> new
>>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>>> I live in san francisco.
>>> Jim
>>
>>
>>

seanadams
2004-09-06, 19:58
No that's not what I'm saying. Sorry, I'd rather not comment on this
further. Someone else can fill in the details.



On Sep 6, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Ken wrote:

> Sean,
>
> If this is indeed the case, then Roku is not simply being misleading,
> but is out and out lying in their advertisement of the M1000 and M2000
> units. Given their position with the reasonably successful HD1000
> product, it seems very risky for them to practice this level of
> deception. They may indeed be doing just that, but this type of fraud
> would spell disaster for the company if it were determined to be true.
>
> Are you certain that no relationship exists between Roku and Apple
> with respect to iTunes integration?
>
> Ken
>
> Sean Adams wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>> Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
>> airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
>> interface that they have not published to any third parties.
>> Sean
>> On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with
>>> a main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with
>>> you about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys
>>> did a very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
>>> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
>>> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of
>>> the Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in
>>> lieu of a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration
>>> (in spite of my strong endorsement of the SB).
>>>
>>> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get
>>> used to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its
>>> become fairly indispensable to me.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> Jim McCall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
>>>> work...)
>>>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
>>>> now I am
>>>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
>>>> money into
>>>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to
>>>> sell the SB
>>>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>>>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while
>>>> at my
>>>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with
>>>> using the
>>>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>>>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed
>>>> the new
>>>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>>>> I live in san francisco.
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-09-06, 20:04
work to work when iTunes is ON the same way a computer would see and
share ...

Ken wrote:
> Sean,
>
> If this is indeed the case, then Roku is not simply being misleading,
> but is out and out lying in their advertisement of the M1000 and M2000
> units. Given their position with the reasonably successful HD1000
> product, it seems very risky for them to practice this level of
> deception. They may indeed be doing just that, but this type of fraud
> would spell disaster for the company if it were determined to be true.
>
> Are you certain that no relationship exists between Roku and Apple with
> respect to iTunes integration?
>
> Ken
>
> Sean Adams wrote:
>
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
>> airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
>> interface that they have not published to any third parties.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with a
>>> main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with you
>>> about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys did a
>>> very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
>>> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
>>> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of the
>>> Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in lieu of
>>> a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration (in spite
>>> of my strong endorsement of the SB).
>>>
>>> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get used
>>> to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its become
>>> fairly indispensable to me.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> Jim McCall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
>>>> work...)
>>>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
>>>> now I am
>>>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
>>>> money into
>>>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to sell
>>>> the SB
>>>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>>>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while
>>>> at my
>>>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with
>>>> using the
>>>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>>>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed
>>>> the new
>>>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>>>> I live in san francisco.
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-09-06, 20:08
aigh... Thunderbird ate that one...

It seems to work when iTunes is ON the same way a computer would see and
share ...

Jonathan Greene wrote:

> work to work when iTunes is ON the same way a computer would see and
> share ...
>
> Ken wrote:
>
>> Sean,
>>
>> If this is indeed the case, then Roku is not simply being misleading,
>> but is out and out lying in their advertisement of the M1000 and M2000
>> units. Given their position with the reasonably successful HD1000
>> product, it seems very risky for them to practice this level of
>> deception. They may indeed be doing just that, but this type of fraud
>> would spell disaster for the company if it were determined to be true.
>>
>> Are you certain that no relationship exists between Roku and Apple
>> with respect to iTunes integration?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Sean Adams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
>>> airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
>>> interface that they have not published to any third parties.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with
>>>> a main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with
>>>> you about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys
>>>> did a very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
>>>> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
>>>> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of
>>>> the Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in
>>>> lieu of a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration
>>>> (in spite of my strong endorsement of the SB).
>>>>
>>>> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get
>>>> used to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its
>>>> become fairly indispensable to me.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> Jim McCall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
>>>>> work...)
>>>>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
>>>>> now I am
>>>>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
>>>>> money into
>>>>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to
>>>>> sell the SB
>>>>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
>>>>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while
>>>>> at my
>>>>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with
>>>>> using the
>>>>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
>>>>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed
>>>>> the new
>>>>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
>>>>> I live in san francisco.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

kdf
2004-09-06, 20:38
I've only taken a cursory glance at it, but it seemed to give me the impression
that is relie on the COM interface much the way that the iTunesUpdater works.
This wouldn't require any formal relationship with Apple. I seem to remember
at one point they had claimed a deal to be able to play itms songs. However,
since then I have seen the notes saying DRM is not supported.

it didn't seem to me to be making any claims to be more than that, aside from
clearly spinning it in the most positive way anyone could given the seeming
dependance on itunes.

-kdf

Quoting Jonathan Greene <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>:

> aigh... Thunderbird ate that one...
>
> It seems to work when iTunes is ON the same way a computer would see and
> share ...
>
> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>
> > work to work when iTunes is ON the same way a computer would see and
> > share ...
> >
> > Ken wrote:
> >
> >> Sean,
> >>
> >> If this is indeed the case, then Roku is not simply being misleading,
> >> but is out and out lying in their advertisement of the M1000 and M2000
> >> units. Given their position with the reasonably successful HD1000
> >> product, it seems very risky for them to practice this level of
> >> deception. They may indeed be doing just that, but this type of fraud
> >> would spell disaster for the company if it were determined to be true.
> >>
> >> Are you certain that no relationship exists between Roku and Apple
> >> with respect to iTunes integration?
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> Sean Adams wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ken,
> >>>
> >>> Their marketing is very misleading. The reality is that only Apple's
> >>> airport express can be controlled from iTunes. It uses a proprietary
> >>> interface that they have not published to any third parties.
> >>>
> >>> Sean
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Ken wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jim,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure that I share your feelings about using the remote with
> >>>> a main system (I do and find it quite convenient), but I agree with
> >>>> you about using iTunes to control the device. While the Slim guys
> >>>> did a very good job on the default web interface, its not really a
> >>>> replacement for the excellent iTunes music browser for basic music
> >>>> selection. I'd venture to say that this is *the* selling point of
> >>>> the Roku device, and I know several folks that have ordered it in
> >>>> lieu of a Squeezebox specifically because of the iTunes integration
> >>>> (in spite of my strong endorsement of the SB).
> >>>>
> >>>> In any case, I think you should hang on to the SB see if you get
> >>>> used to it in your house. I've found that with all it provides, its
> >>>> become fairly indispensable to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ken
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim McCall wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> I am enjoying following this list (and it is a fun way of avoiding
> >>>>> work...)
> >>>>> I am not sure that the squeezebox is the right thing for me. Right
> >>>>> now I am
> >>>>> in the hemming and hawing phase deciding whether I would put the
> >>>>> money into
> >>>>> an ipod and use that as my upstairs device. I probably ought to
> >>>>> sell the SB
> >>>>> and I would rather do it here than on ebay.
> >>>>> Why am I thinking it doesn't work? I would rather use itunes while
> >>>>> at my
> >>>>> computer, for one. For two, I just don't feel an affinity with
> >>>>> using the
> >>>>> remote and the squeezebox while in my living room.
> >>>>> Contact me if you wish. I have a squeezebox that I just installed
> >>>>> the new
> >>>>> graphic display. It is in impeccable condition.
> >>>>> I live in san francisco.
> >>>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

jacobdp
2004-09-07, 13:07
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:34:59 -0400, Chris Saunders <chriss (AT) kingston (DOT) net> wrote:
> Only Roku SoundBridge includes:
>
> A large bitmapped display

In any case, they're gonna have to get rid of the line about only them
having a bitmapped display...

And visualization too, in a few months.

- Jacob