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tonyptony
2010-07-18, 06:31
I have a Controller, which unlike some I really do like - except for the wimpy battery life. I've also used a Nokia N770 with the Nokia skin. I liked that (the Nokia has great battery life but the skin seems not to be as up to date). With the bunch of new multi-capable remote devices out there now which one provides the best usability for Squeeze devices (including battery life)?

pippin
2010-07-18, 06:54
iPad. If you just use it for remote control and let it sleep between activities it will likely last a week. There's nothing else I have that comes even close WRT battery life. Oh, except for an IR remote, of course.

tonyptony
2010-07-18, 07:13
I suspected it would be something with an i in front of it. Right now, though, getting an iPad would be sort of overkill for me. I already have a couple of lightweight PC notebooks. I'd need a pretty good reason to get more functionality out of an iPad when I already have those, to think about buying one. I think also the iPad is just a little big for my desired use.

pippin
2010-07-18, 08:23
you asked for it...
If you use a phone and disable the "phone" part of it it could also help a bit. Don't know about Android (never tried to turn off cellular on that one) but on my iPhone it lasts significantly longer with only WiFi than an iPod touch with WiFi so I assume it has a bigger battery.

iPod touch did last for a looong time too in the past if not used too much but not so anymore since the iOS4 update, I'm down to 3-4 days on standy only now (used to be weeks) and 1 1/2-2 1/2 days with actual use.

tonyptony
2010-07-18, 09:18
Too bad about the iPod Touch. Maybe I'd just be better off getting a Nokia N800? Wonder if the skins work better on it than the 770.

pippin
2010-07-18, 09:54
No idea.
Whatever you use, I'd suggest to get a dock...

bobkoure
2010-07-18, 14:52
Too bad about the iPod Touch. Maybe I'd just be better off getting a Nokia N800? Wonder if the skins work better on it than the 770.
I have an 800. They're the same skins. Do they not work on the 770?
There's now a version of firefox for the n800/810. Maybe for the 770 too?
Given ff, there shouldn't need to be much special about the skins for the 770/800/810 - except sizing. As I remember, the standard Maemo browser lacked something basic, but I don't remember what (been too long). Javascript? CSS2? Anyway, the 770 skins were (again, AFAIR) a bit clunky because there was a need to work around this limitation.

On an unrelated note - if you have small notebooks / netbooks around, why not try Moose? Or even just the standard web GUI?

Personally, I'm leaning towards Android on a tablet. Like the velocity cruz (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/velocity-cruz-android-tablet-7-inch-display-300/), if it ever becomes a real thing.

tonyptony
2010-07-18, 17:41
I have an 800. They're the same skins. Do they not work on the 770?

....

On an unrelated note - if you have small notebooks / netbooks around, why not try Moose? Or even just the standard web GUI?

I find that there are problems with displaying the "what's playing" names when using some of the Internet radio stations. The SS web interface on my PC will show what's playing just fine, but for some reason that info is not getting handled by the Nokia skin.

I'd like something about the size of the Nokia or an Android.

pippin
2010-07-18, 18:42
I'd like something about the size of the Nokia or an Android.

I don't know about the Nokia but the Android devices I've used so far were worse on battery lifetime than the iThingys.
There's a good app for Android, though, SqueezeCommander.

Mark Miksis
2010-07-18, 19:53
What do you mean by "multi-capable remote devices"? Multi-touch?

What kind of phone do you have? As already mentioned, there are great solutions for iPhone and Android.

Personally, I would lean against the N800. I like the device, but it just doesn't seem to have much inertia behind it - either from the standpoint of SbS skin development and maintenance or the N800 platform in general. Just my opinion.

flattermann
2010-07-19, 01:30
Personally, I'm leaning towards Android on a tablet. Like the velocity cruz (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/velocity-cruz-android-tablet-7-inch-display-300/), if it ever becomes a real thing.

Me too.

I'd like to see an Android powered tablet with 10"-12" screen and let's say 1280x800 resolution. :-)

tonyptony
2010-07-19, 16:23
What do you mean by "multi-capable remote devices"? Multi-touch?

What kind of phone do you have? As already mentioned, there are great solutions for iPhone and Android.

Personally, I would lean against the N800. I like the device, but it just doesn't seem to have much inertia behind it - either from the standpoint of SbS skin development and maintenance or the N800 platform in general. Just my opinion.

I mean something that can also act as a small Internet device and can link wirelessly to my main computer rig. That's what was so nice about the Nokia devices, although I agree it seems they haven't made much of a splash in the marketplace.

I still use wired phones at home, and work pays for my wireless (I don't have a choice in what they give me). So buying a 'droid or something like that doesn't seem real cost-effective for something like this.

starcat
2010-07-19, 18:29
Nothing beats the iPhone/iPod Touch running iPeng. And then you have there the best mobile browser, mail client, all perfect integrated with your contacts, etc.

Mark Miksis
2010-07-19, 18:38
Me too.

I'd like to see an Android powered tablet with 10"-12" screen and let's say 1280x800 resolution. :-)

Any plans for a special tablet-optimized version of SqueezeCommander? It sounds like that's what pippin is doing.

flattermann
2010-07-20, 13:15
Any plans for a special tablet-optimized version of SqueezeCommander? It sounds like that's what pippin is doing.

Yes, I definitely want to create a special Tablet-version of SqueezeCommander.
And it will probably look a lot like iPeng-for-iPad. ;-)

Unfortunately, I haven't found a good Android tablet yet (and the SDK is not ready for resolutions > 480x854).
But I need a tablet as "reference platform" before I can begin to work on this...

Mark Miksis
2010-07-20, 16:33
Yes, I definitely want to create a special Tablet-version of SqueezeCommander.
And it will probably look a lot like iPeng-for-iPad. ;-)

Unfortunately, I haven't found a good Android tablet yet (and the SDK is not ready for resolutions > 480x854).
But I need a tablet as "reference platform" before I can begin to work on this...

Glad to hear it. I'm hoping there will be a few good ones to choose from during the shopping season. Maybe either Lenovo or the Verizon Google Tablet.

mdv
2010-07-26, 17:47
This tablet seems pretty good to me for $150 or so. I installed the Panda launcher with volume button hack and it is working pretty well. I guess the "latest" firmware improves the Wi-Fi re-connect times but I haven't have any issues with whatever version is loaded on mine.

Mark

Bearfaced
2010-07-27, 04:50
Unfortuantely I can't remember exactly how I set it up but I have SqueezePlay running as an app in the native software (although you can run it in Ubuntu if you use a memory stick) however it's a great display/controller for all my Squeezeboxes. I did a couple of other hacks to update the wireless driver and change the behavior of the backlight so it doesn't go into standby with running Squaeezeplay. I might sound smart but I just followed instructions I found on line to do all this, the clever people are the ones that wrote such good instructions!

*edit* I added a couple of photos here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80746