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bebop
2010-05-08, 03:14
Seems that the ip3k based products are EOL :-(

From bugzilla http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9618 :

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WONTFIX


--- Comment #2 from Alan Young <ayoung1@slimdevices.com> 2010-05-07 10:20:13 PDT --- All new Squeezebox products are likely to be based on the SqueezePlay platform.
We do not plan to implement any further enhancements to the ip3k firmware or which are targeted specifically at ip3k-based products.

Phil Leigh
2010-05-08, 03:19
Seems that the ip3k based products are EOL :-(

From bugzilla http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9618 :

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WONTFIX


--- Comment #2 from Alan Young <ayoung1@slimdevices.com> 2010-05-07 10:20:13 PDT --- All new Squeezebox products are likely to be based on the SqueezePlay platform.
We do not plan to implement any further enhancements to the ip3k firmware or which are targeted specifically at ip3k-based products.

All good things come to an end. I think they'd prefer to describe them as "Functionally Stabilised".

Looking forward to Boom 2 (and maybe Touch 2 with twice the CPU and RAM...)

Phil Leigh
2010-05-08, 03:19
bebop;544565 Wrote:
> Seems that the ip3k based products are EOL :-(
>
> From bugzilla http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9618 :
>
> What |Removed |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Status|NEW |RESOLVED
> Resolution| |WONTFIX
>
>
> --- Comment #2 from Alan Young <ayoung1 (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> 2010-05-07
> 10:20:13 PDT --- All new Squeezebox products are likely to be based on
> the SqueezePlay platform.
> We do not plan to implement any further enhancements to the ip3k
> firmware or which are targeted specifically at ip3k-based products.

All good things come to an end. I think they'd prefer to describe them
as "Functionally Stabilised".

Looking forward to Boom 2 (and maybe Touch 2 with twice the CPU and
RAM...)


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Mnyb
2010-05-08, 03:53
It is not as dramatic as it looks the server will still support them but no new things will be added to the firmware.

But as this are old "slim" devices almost everything is done by the server anyway, so you won't notice in most cases.

This has been the practical situation for a long time regarding classic (aka SB3 )

But as most menus and functions are driven by the server many of those things can change anyway if logitech wants an systemwide UI change or something like that.

For the SB3 I see no problems, it is very functionally stabilized not many bugs to speak of.

Transporter might be another issue, it seems to have some irritating properties that never where sorted out properly if you read the audiophile forum,
but maybe i should stop doing that to feel more sane ?

Mnyb
2010-05-08, 03:53
It is not as dramatic as it looks the server will still support them but
no new things will be added to the firmware.

But as this are old "slim" devices almost everything is done by the
server anyway, so you won't notice in most cases.

This has been the practical situation for a long time regarding classic
(aka SB3 )

But as most menus and functions are driven by the server many of those
things can change anyway if logitech wants an systemwide UI change or
something like that.

For the SB3 I see no problems, it is very functionally stabilized not
many bugs to speak of.

Transporter might be another issue, it seems to have some irritating
properties that never where sorted out properly if you read the
audiophile forum,
but maybe i should stop doing that to feel more sane ?


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Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 )
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4
Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery)
I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to
control this
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khoadley
2010-05-08, 17:55
But as this are old "slim" devices almost everything is done by the server anyway, so you won't notice in most cases.
...
For the SB3 I see no problems, it is very functionally stabilized not many bugs to speak of.


Am I right in saying that this closure also covers the Receiver portion of the Duet ?

Whilst I'm hardly surprised, 'tis a pity given the wireless logic on the SBR seems to me pretty buggy. (Saying that almost everything is done on the server by pre-Jive squeezeboxes hardly helps when you can't get through to the server !)

khoadley
2010-05-08, 17:55
Mnyb;544576 Wrote:
>
> But as this are old "slim" devices almost everything is done by the
> server anyway, so you won't notice in most cases.
> ...
> For the SB3 I see no problems, it is very functionally stabilized not
> many bugs to speak of.
>

Am I right in saying that this closure also covers the Receiver portion
of the Duet ?

Whilst I'm hardly surprised, 'tis a pity given the wireless logic on
the SBR seems to me pretty buggy. (Saying that almost everything is
done on the server by pre-Jive squeezeboxes hardly helps when you can't
get through to the server !)


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maggior
2010-05-08, 17:59
Wow. The SB3 and transporter have been around for a while, but the Boom, it feels like just yesterday it came out.

I hope they come out with a replacement for the Boom and don't rely on the Radio. The Boom is an awesome product. It was a product that I didn't realize I needed until it came out - now I own 4 of them :-).

maggior
2010-05-08, 17:59
Wow. The SB3 and transporter have been around for a while, but the
Boom, it feels like just yesterday it came out.

I hope they come out with a replacement for the Boom and don't rely on
the Radio. The Boom is an awesome product. It was a product that I
didn't realize I needed until it came out - now I own 4 of them :-).


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running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists.
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dennis55
2010-05-09, 09:11
Quadrophonic Booms.............:)

dennis






Wow. The SB3 and transporter have been around for a while, but the Boom, it feels like just yesterday it came out.

I hope they come out with a replacement for the Boom and don't rely on the Radio. The Boom is an awesome product. It was a product that I didn't realize I needed until it came out - now I own 4 of them :-).

dennis55
2010-05-09, 09:11
Quadrophonic Booms.............:)

dennis





maggior;544777 Wrote:
> Wow. The SB3 and transporter have been around for a while, but the
> Boom, it feels like just yesterday it came out.
>
> I hope they come out with a replacement for the Boom and don't rely on
> the Radio. The Boom is an awesome product. It was a product that I
> didn't realize I needed until it came out - now I own 4 of them :-).


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sander
2010-05-09, 13:38
Looking forward to Boom 2 (and maybe Touch 2 with twice the CPU and RAM...)

I always thought the radio was in essence the boom 2.

With the alarm problems on the boom the developers have hinted there was essentially no more room on the firmware to fix the alarm problems, so it does sound like fixing anything but the most ip3k systems has been on hold for at least a little bit, this is really more of a formality.

I'm not sure how they're going to handle the transition to squeezeplay clients beyond stopping development on the old devices. Squeezeplay should be more asynchronous than the old approach hopefully make for a more robust experience in regards to syncing, alarms and such, but in general its been less reliable with fewer options.

I hope they have a strategy where they can leverage the advantages of a fatter client over time while keeping the same functionality we enjoy on the older devices.

sander
2010-05-09, 13:38
Phil Leigh;544567 Wrote:
> Looking forward to Boom 2 (and maybe Touch 2 with twice the CPU and
> RAM...)

I always thought the radio was in essence the boom 2.

With the alarm problems on the boom the developers have hinted there
was essentially no more room on the firmware to fix the alarm problems,
so it does sound like fixing anything but the most ip3k systems has been
on hold for at least a little bit, this is really more of a formality.

I'm not sure how they're going to handle the transition to squeezeplay
clients beyond stopping development on the old devices. Squeezeplay
should be more asynchronous than the old approach hopefully make for a
more robust experience in regards to syncing, alarms and such, but in
general its been less reliable with fewer options.

I hope they have a strategy where they can leverage the advantages of a
fatter client over time while keeping the same functionality we enjoy on
the older devices.


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funkstar
2010-05-13, 09:08
I always thought the radio was in essence the boom 2.
No a Boom 2 would be stereo I think. The Radio might gain a new core and interface, but it looses on sound and volume.

jay_cee_in_da_house
2010-05-13, 13:32
The audio out of the Radio is acceptable, but it doesn't hold a candle to the Boom. I hope they continue to have a high-quality-speaker product like the Boom.

richman
2010-05-13, 15:46
Is the boom being discontinued?
Yes or no?
Please post link supporting that info, because other places on web are linking to this thread, saying this shows they are getting rid of Boom and transporter. Is this TRUE?

brucegrr
2010-05-13, 16:05
Is the boom being discontinued?
Yes or no?
Please post link supporting that info, because other places on web are linking to this thread, saying this shows they are getting rid of Boom and transporter. Is this TRUE?

This is not an official Logitech forum. It is a user forum that sometimes practices the art of speculation. :)

Any other site linking to a discussion on this forum and considering it an official Logitech statement.......is acting quite foolishly.

As far as I know Best Buy has been selling Boom's for 150.00. I was in Ft Wayne last weekend and there were three of them on the shelf. (and I wish I had 450.00 to buy them) That's all I know for sure. I can speculate but it would be just that...speculation. I usually leave the speculation up to others who are more knowledgeable about Logitech matters. Then we can make fun of them when they are wrong. :)

In other words......no one knows FOR sure.

kdf
2010-05-13, 16:08
>
> Is this TRUE?

NO.

Read the bugzilla link, as it doesn't even need 'official clarification'
beyond what's there. It only mentions stopping devel efforts for older
'ip3k' hardware players. Officially, you get what you have now. This
doesn't preclude third party patches, at least for software-side fixes (ie
sync ui).

-kdf

pablolie
2010-05-16, 21:37
...

This has been the practical situation for a long time regarding classic (aka SB3 )

..

Has it? Every SBS upgrade -including 7.5- has always upgraded the firmware on my SB3s, which makes me wonder if they'll stay compatible with future SBS versions if the firmware is no longer upgraded.

pfarrell
2010-05-16, 21:40
pablolie wrote:
> Has it? Every SBS upgrade -including 7.5- has always upgraded the
> firmware on my SB3s, which makes me wonder if they'll stay compatible
> with future SBS versions if the firmware is no longer upgraded.

What drivel. The SB1 still works, and its firmware hasn't been ugraded
in five years.

These forum threads are pathetic.

The old slims are no longer new. They won't be made better. All new
effort is going into the new platform.

The kind is dead, long live the king.

What a bunch of whiny children.

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funkstar
2010-05-17, 03:27
What drivel. The SB1 still works, and its firmware hasn't been ugraded
in five years.
The SliMP3 still works and it hasn't been updated for even longer.

I wouldn't have put it like that Pat, but I do agree :)

aubuti
2010-05-17, 06:14
Has it? Every SBS upgrade -including 7.5- has always upgraded the firmware on my SB3s, which makes me wonder if they'll stay compatible with future SBS versions if the firmware is no longer upgraded.
Well, maybe if you upgraded from 7.3 to 7.5, but if you went from 7.4 to 7.5 then you're just plain wrong about this. SB2 and SB3 have been running firmware 130 since 7.4.0, and if you can find the differences betweeen these two firmware releases then you get the prize:
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.4/squeezebox2_130.bin
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.5.0/squeezebox2_130.bin