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Colin Burn-Murdoch
2004-08-16, 15:07
Or at the other end of the scale, how about a SqueezeBox-BoomBox - I'm thinking a nice little portable unit with built in speakers/amp and battery powered - ideal for putting out in the garden (or kids room) and connecting wirelessly to the network in the house - I'm not sure how batteries would handle the wireless connection, but it they were rechargable so you could keep it plugged in and charged when not in use it'd be great! - Could be finished in the same sort of rubberised plastic as the squeezebox.

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [slim] How much demand for an audio rack sized Squeezebox?


> I would order one! Dunno why there are some kits for the hackers out there
> too with the pieces to "roll your own" encloseure. I would love that!! Just
> the pieces might be a little cheaper too...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
> To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 3:39 PM
> Subject: [slim] How much demand for an audio rack sized Squeezebox?
>
>
> > I just installed the new G display for my Squeezebox and I'm loving it!!!
> > After the recent discussions around some demand for a full audio rack
> sized
> > squeezebox in a professional looking aluminum or steel enclosure I'm
> > wondering if people on the list could indicate how much demand there is
> for
> > such an item.
> >
> > I'm visualizing the Squeezebox installed into an aluminum or black metal
> > chassis with all of the standard outputs on the back. Rack mount ears
> might
> > be available as a separate kit. Some hard buttons on the faceplate to do
> > basic navigation would make a lot of sense here too and shouldn't be too
> > difficult to incorporate since I think that they could use the geek
> > connector to function.
> >
> > I'm envisioning a $399 price point for this hypothetical "squeezebox
> > audiophile edition" and I would definitely order one at this price if such
> a
> > beast became available.
> >
> > Anyone else have any interest/comments?
> >
> > -Jason.
> >
> >
> >

oktup
2005-08-05, 06:41
The Science/Technology supplement in yesterday's Guardian newspaper (UK) carried a news-in-brief article previewing a new portable 'wi-fi' radio (http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1541780,00.html).

The item in question (http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/contact/radio.html) seems to be, functionally at least, a kind of stripped-down version of the 'Squeezebox Boombox' suggested in this thread.

I don't own a Squeezebox (yet), but my ideal scenario would be to have an SB2 in my main room, another in the bedroom, and then some kind of portable beast to follow me around the house/garden as required. I'm thinking more along the styling lines of the Pure Evoke (http://www.pure-digital.com/Products/Product.asp?Product=VL-60747) though (a conventional digital radio, not Wi-fi), rather than the aesthetically uninspiring (IMHO etc) Acoustic Energy product.

I understand that future plans aren't officially commented on, etc, but thought this was an interesting development - presumably there'll be other such portable devices from other manufacturers soon - hopefully Slim Devices will get in on the action.

MeSue
2005-08-05, 07:20
how about a SqueezeBox-BoomBox

I would LOVE a Squeezebox Boombox to take out by the pool with me. In fact, I searched this forum just the other day to see if this idea had ever been tossed around--didn't turn up this thread, though.

I'd want the ability to run it on AC power in addition to batteries. Actually, I'd even buy one if AC power was the only option. Before I bought the SB2, I was looking at both the Linksys and HomePod network players because they both had built-in speakers. Despite the poor reviews, I stupidly bought the HomePod and ended up returning it. It was horrible!

radish
2005-08-05, 07:37
+1 for the boombox, not really interested in the "component sized" idea, I like that they're small. Everyone always assumes they're just clocks...

Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes
2005-08-05, 07:47
On Friday 05 August 2005 15:20, MeSue wrote:
> Colin Burn-Murdoch Wrote:
> > how about a SqueezeBox-BoomBox
>
> I would LOVE a Squeezebox Boombox to take out by the pool with me. In
> fact, I searched this forum just the other day to see if this idea had
> ever been tossed around--didn't turn up this thread, though.
>
> I'd want the ability to run it on AC power in addition to batteries.
> Actually, I'd even buy one if AC power was the only option. Before I
> bought the SB2, I was looking at both the Linksys and HomePod network
> players because they both had built-in speakers. Despite the poor
> reviews, I stupidly bought the HomePod and ended up returning it. It
> was horrible!

I've been playing around with whether or not some of the more advanced
cell-phones would fulfill this role. Obviously it would only work on
headphones (unless you used some active extension speakers), but it is
definitely starting to look like everything that might be required is already
there (mp3 players, browsers, connectivity - inluding 802.11b on the larger
nokias). Would effectively give you a small walkman with direct access to
your music collection. Might be interesting to see what would happen if you
tried a cut-down skin of softsqueeze on a java-enabled phone as well...

Alex

fuzzyT
2005-08-05, 07:55
+1 as well.

SB2 + builtin amp/speakers + battery/AC power.

bonus points for including some sort of removable flash media that could
hold data for use when you're away from the home Net. would be similar
to cassette or CD boombox, just with different media. options for
loading inserted card through player interface.

[eg: Artists -> Album -> Load to Card]

--rt

Roy Owen
2005-08-05, 08:20
Sue,
Have a look at SLIMP3 Boom Box <http://www.olsontribe.com/slimp3/> from the
plugins page. I've seriously thought about something like this for my
Squeezebox G.

On 8/5/05, MeSue <MeSue.1tap3n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> Colin Burn-Murdoch Wrote:
> > how about a SqueezeBox-BoomBox
>
> I would LOVE a Squeezebox Boombox to take out by the pool with me. In
> fact, I searched this forum just the other day to see if this idea had
> ever been tossed around--didn't turn up this thread, though.
>
> I'd want the ability to run it on AC power in addition to batteries.
> Actually, I'd even buy one if AC power was the only option. Before I
> bought the SB2, I was looking at both the Linksys and HomePod network
> players because they both had built-in speakers. Despite the poor
> reviews, I stupidly bought the HomePod and ended up returning it. It
> was horrible!
>
>
> --
> MeSue
>
> Sue
>

oktup
2005-08-05, 08:23
I've been playing around with whether or not some of the more advanced cell-phones would fulfill this role. Obviously it would only work on headphones (unless you used some active extension speakers), but it is definitely starting to look like everything that might be required is already there (mp3 players, browsers, connectivity - inluding 802.11b on the larger nokias). Would effectively give you a small walkman with direct access to
your music collection.

Yep, I'm awaiting the Nokia N91 (http://www.nokia.com/nseries/index.html?loc=inside,main_n91) with some interest - music-centric and has 802.11b/g support. Unfortunately it's not out until December-ish, apparently, and my current phone is on the verge of broken-ness, so I'm probably not going to be able to wait that long :/

Even so; while it'll probably be an incredibly nifty little gadget, doesn't quite fulfil the same needs as a SqueezeBoomBox... it's the pick-up-and-go factor that really appeals to me. Don't want to have to cart a phone, PSU and active speakers around the house either...

superbad
2005-08-05, 13:01
SB2 + builtin amp/speakers + battery/AC power.

bonus points for including some sort of removable flash media
--rt

I'd buy one of those. In fact, I've been considering building an enclosure with powered speakers and a Squeezebox. Any ideas on how to incorporate a card reader as well? That's a great idea. I guess you'd need some kind of super stripped down server in there?

fuzzyT
2005-08-05, 13:15
superbad wrote:

> I'd buy one of those. In fact, I've been considering building an
> enclosure with powered speakers and a Squeezebox. Any ideas on how to
> incorporate a card reader as well? That's a great idea. I guess you'd
> need some kind of super stripped down server in there?

yeah, that would be the rub. embedded SS anyone?

--rt

Mitch Harding
2005-08-05, 15:35
Mine was to
MitSwitzerlandell Harding

On 8/5/05, James Dunn <james.dunn (AT) hedgehog-house (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone else get a Slim Devices promo mailer with a really corrupt address?
>
> Mine was addressed to:
> FinlandnSwitzerlandampstead
> Nine Mile Rigermany
>
> Rather than the correct:
> Finchampstead
> Nine Mile Ride
>
> Think about the following:
> Fi=Finland
> ch=Switzerland
> de=Germany
>
> and you'll understand where it comes from.
>
> Any other funnies out there?
>
> I'm amazed it ever got to me...
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>

docbee
2005-08-06, 00:51
It is funny, the discussion about additional form factors is also a hot topic in the sonos forum. Looks like there are at least four general form factors required by the audience:
1. HiFi rack like, no amplifier included (as the audiotron was)
2. compact sized, no amplifier (slim devices, creative sbwm)
3. compact sized with amplifier (sonos, rio receiver in the past)
4. outdoor boombox with batterie, amplifier, loudspeaker (not there, yet)

As the units don't sell in the millions I understand that it is a no-go to have four production lines in place for all that variations. May be a major audio brand can do it, but they still don't get right on track with their music server/client approaches. As far as I remember the users from the audiotron did not start a discussion for other packages. Slim and even more sonos have a discussion on that since the beginning. One might assume that therefore option (1) is most preferred by the users. ok, that's more a guess than a valid conclusion ;-)
But I have a friend who likes his audiotron more than the slim because of its turn-knob-navigation (which is definitely cool) and the HiFi rack compatible form factor.

Have you thought of selling alternative housings so that the user can easily change the case by himself according to his needs? May be the next design step is to modularize the squeezebox inner components into a module that fits into several housings slim devices can offer. Having that, would give others a chance to step in with more special and innovative housings as an after-market with housings for the pool, garden, childs, wall installed, with amplifier, with batteries, etc.

just an idea...

deksawyer
2005-08-06, 01:44
A hifi sized unit would be a welcome option.

I almost bought the Sony NAS-CZ1, which is a I guess you could call a portable wireless MP3 boombox.

http://www.sony-europe.com/PageView.do?site=odw_en_EU&page=PressReleaseDetail&section=en_EU_Press&pressrelease=1109586898095

Might get one yet if they turn out to be useable.

D.

JohnD76
2005-08-06, 01:56
I am not interested in a seperates sized Squeezebox, the stock wifi one works wonderfully with my Cyrus hifi, why make it any larger? Sure you could fit a large torroidal transformer in there, but for me the stock one it perfect.

Josef Shvejk
2005-08-06, 13:37
Have anyone tried to fix SB on top of the PlayDoc?

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=port_spkr&item=c1pdmp3n

Looks like a relatively easy hack...