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adamslim
2010-04-10, 16:00
I have a SB3, 2 Booms, Duet and Radio. Doubtless I'll get a Touch in due course... but... I don't particularly like the new system in the Controller/Radio...

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I loved the configurability of the SB3 - they way you could control everything from the server, it remembered everything through all the upgrades and you could get it to do whatever you wanted. Plugins like SaverSwitcher, TitleSwitcher and the like have really made it a joy to look at, and really informative. And easy to read from ten feet away.

The Controller just isn't as configurable, and it forgets all the custom settings every time you upgrade the firmware. I can't get info from my custom tags onto its now playing screen, and have to live with the way it scrolls (much too slow) and doesn't show enough text.

I know, I understand that the new screens are prettier and hardly anyone configures their stuff as much as I have, so this is probably a good commercial move. I just thought I'd have a little moan is all! I'm not going to say that the baby is lost, just, well, I'm tempted to hoover up a few SB3s when the bottom falls out of the market. Ironically, I may well end up slaving one to my Touch to use as a screen...

JJZolx
2010-04-10, 16:26
If you don't like how the Controller works, then you certainly won't like how the Touch works. A lot of settings on the Touch can't be set from the server. Many settings, such as font size and menu order, don't have any options at all.

BlueScreenJunky
2010-04-11, 22:42
I couldn't agree more : I really like the simple devices with VFD displays easily readable from a distance.
I have a SB3 and a SB Boom and use an android phone w/ squeezecommander to control them, or the IR remote of course (and an harmony remote in the living room). I'm perfectly happy with them and I have absolutely no intention of moving to Radio or Touch... If I ever need a new Squeezebox I'll probably try to find a second hand Classic :-/


I really wish logitech could make a squeezebox 4 : An updated SB3 with a faster CPU to support 192Khz, more memory with more built-in codecs, auto uplink, wifi n, maybe smoother scrolling of the titles and so on...

erland
2010-04-11, 23:05
I loved the configurability of the SB3 - they way you could control everything from the server, it remembered everything through all the upgrades and you could get it to do whatever you wanted. Plugins like SaverSwitcher, TitleSwitcher and the like have really made it a joy to look at, and really informative. And easy to read from ten feet away.

You might want to look into:
- Screen Switcher applet (which is similar to what SaverSwitcher offers on the old devices)



The Controller just isn't as configurable, and it forgets all the custom settings every time you upgrade the firmware.

What settings are you talking about ?
If you are talking about settings you have changed from a user interface that shouldn't be lost just because you make a firmware upgrade.



I can't get info from my custom tags onto its now playing screen, and have to live with the way it scrolls (much too slow) and doesn't show enough text.

Sounds like you may want to look at:

- Custom Clock applet and it's helper plugin Custom Clock Helper
-- Can show any title format, including custom tags scanned by the Custom Scan plugin
-- See here for some samples of the possibilities: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom_Clock_styles
-- See here for more information about it: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom_Clock_applet
-- Or this thread in the 3rd party section: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269
-- As with all my plugins/applets it's a little threshold until you have learned how configure it, but just ask questions in the 3rd party plugins section and we will get you over that threshold.
-- Yes, I know the name "Custom Clock" is a bit confusing but it actually started as a simple clock applet which turned into something I hadn't imagined from the beginning.

- The "Information Screen" applet/plugin combination may also be of some use but all it's functionality is soon going to be available in the Custom Clock applet.



I know, I understand that the new screens are prettier and hardly anyone configures their stuff as much as I have, so this is probably a good commercial move. I just thought I'd have a little moan is all! I'm not going to say that the baby is lost, just, well, I'm tempted to hoover up a few SB3s when the bottom falls out of the market. Ironically, I may well end up slaving one to my Touch to use as a screen...

Don't worry, it's just a matter of time.
The customization possibilities in the new devices are going to be a lot better than the old devices, we now have access to the actual firmware code and can do any modifications we like.

usch
2010-04-13, 02:43
- Custom Clock applet and it's helper plugin Custom Clock Helper
-- Can show any title format, including custom tags scanned by the Custom Scan plugin
Wow, that looks really great. I must admit that I never bothered to take a closer look because of the name, I already have too many clocks in my home and don't really need yet another one. But if you can omit the clock and use it just to display track information, this is exactly what I've been looking for.

Now I can go and buy a Touch, without being concerned that I'll be stuck with the standard NP screen. :)

adamslim
2010-04-18, 11:40
Cheers Erland, I'll look into these - the custom clock in particular looks very useful and spectacularly misnamed :)

Still much prefer the structure of the original Slim Devices approach. The fact that I am having to retag all of my files to allow for the Controller, Radio etc is enough (by the time you've done scrolling through Symphony No XX in X major, "Innominate", Op. XX - Orchestra, Conductor to find out which conductor this is, you could have listened to half the first movement!)

erland
2010-04-18, 21:21
Still much prefer the structure of the original Slim Devices approach. The fact that I am having to retag all of my files to allow for the Controller, Radio etc is enough (by the time you've done scrolling through Symphony No XX in X major, "Innominate", Op. XX - Orchestra, Conductor to find out which conductor this is, you could have listened to half the first movement!)
Why would you have to re-tag anything ? The browse menus looks the same as the old devices, doesn't they ?

Or are you talking about using the built-in server (TinySC) on the Touch which have a bit limited configuration possibilities at the moment.

Aslak3
2010-04-19, 00:09
I have a SB3, 2 Booms, Duet and Radio. Doubtless I'll get a Touch in due course... but... I don't particularly like the new system in the Controller/Radio...

To expand...

I loved the configurability of the SB3 - they way you could control everything from the server, it remembered everything through all the upgrades and you could get it to do whatever you wanted. Plugins like SaverSwitcher, TitleSwitcher and the like have really made it a joy to look at, and really informative. And easy to read from ten feet away.


I have a SB2 (unused at the mo), Boom and a Radio, and I see two important things "lost" in the transition to SqueezePlay:

* Configuring menus from SBS
* General UI stuff (you can't even change the font size!) This again should be done from SBS

Then there are display issues, reliability etc. Album artwork and fancy menus are really a bit of a gimic to me. I love my Radio, and I love my Boom, but for different reasons. One thing is common though, and luckily it's the most important thing: sound quality is great.