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NeilF
2010-03-29, 08:39
Looking to add a remote to my Squeezebox classic. Is anyone able to comment on the pro's and con's of the Squeezecenter remote or using something instead like an Ipod Touch?

ie: How well does an Ipod Touch act as a remote?

Squeezed_Rotel
2010-03-29, 08:55
I've had both and used both. I prefer the iPod touch or iTouch. The album art is larger for one, and I could not get used to the scroll wheel on the SqueezeBox remote.
The iPeng app for the iTouch is excellent.

Bert57
2010-03-29, 10:19
Agree! Itouch is my pick. Have the duet and itouch. The itouch with the larger screen makes it so much easier to read. I use album review and biography a lot and reading on the duet is just to small and the scroll with the wheel is a bit awkward compared to just running your finger down the screen.
Itouch seems to have all the functionality of the duet + can check email, search the web, and have your favorite music with you at all times.
Steve

NeilF
2010-03-29, 10:28
Many thanks! + the iTouch is cheaper too!

And you can access web apps with it? eg: My media streamer has a web app interface using java I believe... So could it control that?


Is there any difference between the 2nd and 3rd generations of the iTouch worth mentioning?

erland
2010-03-29, 10:46
Is there any difference between the 2nd and 3rd generations of the iTouch worth mentioning?

3rd generation is faster, see here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=522984#post522984

NeilF
2010-03-29, 10:50
3rd generation is faster, see here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=522984#post522984

Many thanks... So all I need is ideally a 3rd generation iTouch (8gb), and that's it?

I'd just download/install iPeng onto it (for free?) and it would just talk to my existing Squeezebox Server? And job's a good'n?

eg: No need for iTunes or nonsense like that?

erland
2010-03-29, 11:03
Many thanks... So all I need is ideally a 3rd generation iTouch (8gb), and that's it?

I'd just download/install iPeng onto it (for free?) and it would just talk to my existing Squeezebox Server? And job's a good'n?

eg: No need for iTunes or nonsense like that?

The iPeng app isn't free, I think it's $9.99 or something similar but it's worth every cent and it's still cheaper than a Controller.

I think you need iTunes to activate the iPod Touch initially but after that you won't need it unless you also plan to use the iPod Touch as a portable music player. In that case, you will also need to use iTunes to copy music files to the iPod Touch.

The iPeng App doesn't require anything to be installed on your Squeezebox Server and it will also work towards MySB.com if you use that. In the same way as the Squeezebox Controller it can be enhanced with more functionality by installing third party plugins on the Squeezebox Server.

Squeezed_Rotel
2010-03-29, 12:30
...In the same way as the Squeezebox Controller it can be enhanced with more functionality by installing third party plugins on the Squeezebox Server.

Yes, exactly! Like Erlands excellent "Custom Browse" plugin!

pippin
2010-03-29, 12:31
One thing: there is no 8GB 3rd Generation iTouch. 8GB touches are 2G only 32GB and above are 3G.

2G is fine, though.

NeilF
2010-03-29, 12:52
One thing: there is no 8GB 3rd Generation iTouch. 8GB touches are 2G only 32GB and above are 3G.

2G is fine, though.

Oh :(

So you turn the Touch on, and how long until you can control the Squeezebox? How many options do you have to go through? ie: With a dedicate remote it's instant, and no options/apps to choose!

ghan
2010-03-29, 13:24
I have the ipeng icon in the bottom bar so it is always on screen no matter how many apps you have. It then takes about 2 seconds before you can control your device. Really cool thing is that setting up ipeng the first time takes about 10 seconds. It automatically discovers your squeezeboxserver. I have got the sb controller as well, but now with my iPhone I rarely use it anymore. Screen size and screen quality and general usability are miles ahead. I'm really sorry for the controller in a way because I've had my fun with it but it is just no comparison with ipeng.

pippin
2010-03-29, 13:35
Oh :(

So you turn the Touch on, and how long until you can control the Squeezebox? How many options do you have to go through? ie: With a dedicate remote it's instant, and no options/apps to choose!

5s on 2G, 3s on 3G.
No options.

This is if you launch the App. Can be instantaneous if you leave it running in the background, you will even be able to change the volume with the screen saver on.

NeilF
2010-03-29, 14:43
5s on 2G, 3s on 3G.
No options.

This is if you launch the App. Can be instantaneous if you leave it running in the background, you will even be able to change the volume with the screen saver on.

"No options"?

flattermann
2010-03-29, 14:51
"No options"?
"No options" ... need to be set at the startup because iPeng will automatically find your server and connect to it. ;)

After that, you can of course alter the iPeng settings if you like...

ghan
2010-03-29, 23:35
5s on 2G, 3s on 3G.
No options.

This is if you launch the App. Can be instantaneous if you leave it running in the background, you will even be able to change the volume with the screen saver on.

Sorry i was off, but it really is 3s on my 3Gs :-).
Main problem for me with the SB Controller was that if it's not cradled when you need it, it could take up to 10-15 seconds before it woke up. Really annoying when a phone is ringing...

Mushroom_3
2010-03-30, 01:26
If I got iPeng for a iPhone could I use that to do the initial set up of a a receiver (without the need for a controller)?

pippin
2010-03-30, 01:31
If I got iPeng for a iPhone could I use that to do the initial set up of a a receiver (without the need for a controller)?
No, sorry.
You'd need Net::UDAP or flattermann's Receiver config tool.

Mushroom_3
2010-03-30, 01:35
No, sorry.
You'd need Net::UDAP or flattermann's Receiver config tool.

Thanks for that. Worth a try though.

Letten
2010-03-30, 02:03
Sorry i was off, but it really is 3s on my 3Gs :-).
Main problem for me with the SB Controller was that if it's not cradled when you need it, it could take up to 10-15 seconds before it woke up. Really annoying when a phone is ringing...

Well You can also mute using the button on the front of the reciever if You're in a hurry and Your controller is in sleep.

Using the sleep and suspend controls of the controller you can prevent it from going into to deep sleep and avoid 10-15 sec wake-up.

DoomWolf
2010-03-30, 07:32
I have the Controller and iPeng on my iPod Touch. 99.9% of the time I use iPeng rather than the Controller. The only thing the Controller has is that it can be used as a portable Squeezebox player (through the headphone jack), but the next version of iPeng should add that functionality. However, I find that the Controller has problems with wireless streaming and I have to limit all streams to it at 320kbps (meaning the server has to transcode FLAC files down to that level).

At the moment my Controller is sat in it's cradle in the living room acting as a nice, albeit expensive, clock. Given that an iPod+iPeng is cheaper and the iPod so much more flexible as a device, it really is an easy choice.