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Meshoulam, Arnon
2004-08-11, 07:22
Dont; know.

Seems that the whol subject of streaming non-mp3 is under developed.
Documentation ignores it and the various history in the mailing lists is
contrictory.
I am trying to sort out the options first (Linux and Win32) and then
work it through
Yes, I have the same issues you have...

Arnon

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From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Cc: jewel.tapsta (AT) kolumbus (DOT) fi
Subject: [slim] Revisiting Real Audio / Windows Mediastreaming


Hi Arnon,

I wonder if we are the only ones using this plugin, or is there another
way to stream wma-urls ?

Perhaps you should try the developers mailinglist, or did you try that ?

Do you have the problem that the streaming seems to die after 1-2 hours
? I tried different lame-parameters including the one used for
transcoding (-q 9, very fast) but the buffer-leves drops over time until
it stops playing.

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: Meshoulam, Arnon <mailto:arnon.meshoulam (AT) intel (DOT) com>
To: Slim Devices Discussion
<mailto:discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Cc: jewel.tapsta (AT) kolumbus (DOT) fi
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:38 PM
Subject: [slim] Revisiting Real Audio / Windows Mediastreaming


Hi,

I've been looking at Tapani's WmaStream page
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/jewel.tapsta/WmaStream/WmaStream.html
<http://www.kolumbus.fi/jewel.tapsta/WmaStream/WmaStream.html> ) and an
old discussion item -
http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006832.ht
ml
<http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006832.h
tml> and
http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006812.ht
ml
<http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006812.h
tml>

In the webpage there is a discussion about the WmaStream plugin

In the discussion group there are changes for direct support by
the server

Why was this lost? Why not include in in the documentation as
part of the supported formats? Is there a final decision on RA and WMA?


Arnon


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Dan Sully
2004-08-11, 09:10
* Meshoulam, Arnon <arnon.meshoulam (AT) intel (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...

>Dont; know.
>
>Seems that the whol subject of streaming non-mp3 is under developed.
>Documentation ignores it and the various history in the mailing lists is
>contrictory.
>I am trying to sort out the options first (Linux and Win32) and then
>work it through
>Yes, I have the same issues you have...

There are legal & licensing aspects that SlimDevices can't officially comment on.

That's why you never hear anything.

"Non-free" codecs are currently either under, or non-supported.

-D
--
<_> computers are cheap. programmers are expensive.
high-level languages exist. you can stop bitching now nathan.

Jules Taplin
2004-08-11, 15:16
Revisiting Real Audio / Windows MediastreamingHey guys.

Streaming non mp3 is basically hard because most other streaming formats are proprietry, and so there aren't very good freely available tools to work with them.

There is activity going on that might alleviate some of that (there's a new AlienBBC release pending that if it pans out, might provide a nice architecture for coping with some of it), but basically... making any of this cross platform (which is a requirement for 'proper' slimserver support) isn't simple. Microsoft, for example, haven't given us a open, unencumbered set of linux and MacOS tools with which to build support for their stream. Real are slightly better - they do at least provide players - but even then... they haven't got a 'just give me the stream without any crap' function.

Annoying, isn't it :(


-- Jules
----- Original Message -----
From: Meshoulam, Arnon
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:22 PM
Subject: [slim] Revisiting Real Audio / Windows Mediastreaming


Dont; know.

Seems that the whol subject of streaming non-mp3 is under developed. Documentation ignores it and the various history in the mailing lists is contrictory.
I am trying to sort out the options first (Linux and Win32) and then work it through
Yes, I have the same issues you have...

Arnon



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From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Cc: jewel.tapsta (AT) kolumbus (DOT) fi
Subject: [slim] Revisiting Real Audio / Windows Mediastreaming


Hi Arnon,

I wonder if we are the only ones using this plugin, or is there another way to stream wma-urls ?

Perhaps you should try the developers mailinglist, or did you try that ?

Do you have the problem that the streaming seems to die after 1-2 hours ? I tried different lame-parameters including the one used for transcoding (-q 9, very fast) but the buffer-leves drops over time until it stops playing.

Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Meshoulam, Arnon
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Cc: jewel.tapsta (AT) kolumbus (DOT) fi
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:38 PM
Subject: [slim] Revisiting Real Audio / Windows Mediastreaming


Hi,

I've been looking at Tapani's WmaStream page (http://www.kolumbus.fi/jewel.tapsta/WmaStream/WmaStream.html) and an old discussion item - http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006832.html and http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2003-December/006812.html

In the webpage there is a discussion about the WmaStream plugin

In the discussion group there are changes for direct support by the server

Why was this lost? Why not include in in the documentation as part of the supported formats? Is there a final decision on RA and WMA?



Arnon



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