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Hobejam
2010-02-11, 10:10
Power supply is good, but I get nothing from my Squeezebox Classic when connected. Absolutely nothing... No display flicker at all... Dead, dead, dead...

No event to tie this to, so my question is: What could be wrong?

I suspect something internal gave up the ghost, but if I crack it open, is there really anything serviceable inside that could be related to a complete and sudden failure?

Bought the SB used and it has worked flawlessly for about a year....

Suggestions????

:( DS

toby10
2010-02-11, 15:56
Can you access the SB3 from your web UI (SBS or MySB)?

Hobejam
2010-02-11, 16:01
Ah, good point... If I understand your intent, this would rule in or out a display failure.

If, while plugged into the power supply, I am able to access the SB3 from the web UI (SBS), then the SB3 is powered on, but the display has failed, correct?

I will try this when I get home...

Even if it is just the display, it the unit worth fixing ($$$) or should I just look for a "new" one (eBay)?

dave77
2010-02-11, 16:14
Similar thing happened to mine, do you notice any backlights in the display when you turn it on?

snarlydwarf
2010-02-11, 16:21
Ah, good point... If I understand your intent, this would rule in or out a display failure.

If, while plugged into the power supply, I am able to access the SB3 from the web UI (SBS), then the SB3 is powered on, but the display has failed, correct?

I will try this when I get home...

Even if it is just the display, it the unit worth fixing ($$$) or should I just look for a "new" one (eBay)?

Probably not worth fixing if it's the display. of course, you could use something other than the ir remote and pretend it's a SB Receiver.

There's a url around here somewhere for a dented box sb3 for $179 or something which is a very nice price.

toby10
2010-02-11, 16:24
Ah, good point... If I understand your intent, this would rule in or out a display failure.

If, while plugged into the power supply, I am able to access the SB3 from the web UI (SBS), then the SB3 is powered on, but the display has failed, correct?

I will try this when I get home...

Even if it is just the display, it the unit worth fixing ($$$) or should I just look for a "new" one (eBay)?

Yeah, that's the idea anyway. Also to see if it might be a brightness setting, or IR remote problem, or something else simple.
But I wouldn't get my hopes up, just something to try. :(

If it is the VFD display you could email support and ask if they sell them, but it may cost more than you paid for it.
They used to repair any SB3, regardless of problem, for a flat $90. Sadly this is no longer offered (I suspect lack of parts availability). :(

tcutting
2010-02-11, 17:43
I am assuming it's a wireless SB3? My recollection is a number of similar failures have been due to problems with the wireless card. You might try removing the card and see if it comes to life. If you need to run wireless, I recall there was a thread a few months back where what was thought to be a compatible wireless card was identified... or if you run wired it really wouldn't be a problem.

Nonreality
2010-02-11, 19:46
I really,really hate to see these SB3 failures as I love mine. Has anyone created a study to see if these are do to a certain batch or time frame? Mines almost 3 years old and I really depend on it. I would not have bought it if it only had a 2-4 year lifespan. I expect at least 10 years for my stereo equipment and have always bought quality to make sure of this. I would be very disappointed if mine fails this soon. It's my most favorite device ever and it would be very sad if it failed. Plus I can't afford a replacement right now.

Hobejam
2010-02-12, 11:08
I really,really hate to see these SB3 failures as I love mine. Has anyone created a study to see if these are do to a certain batch or time frame? Mines almost 3 years old and I really depend on it. I would not have bought it if it only had a 2-4 year lifespan. I expect at least 10 years for my stereo equipment and have always bought quality to make sure of this. I would be very disappointed if mine fails this soon. It's my most favorite device ever and it would be very sad if it failed. Plus I can't afford a replacement right now.

I couldn't agree more... I have 3 SB3s and this is the first failure I have had.

Took it apart last night and found what appeared to be heat related discolorations on the inside of the case and when connecting the unit to power outside the case, I immediately smelled a "hot electrical" smell. No smoke or sparks and I did not investigate further...

The case on this model (SB3 with "Slim Devices" on the metal face) has no ventilation at all. Has this ever been an issue (overheating)?

In answer to the previous question regarding the type of SB3, yes, it is wireless.

I was able to pick up a "new still in box" SB3 on eBay for $195 yesterday to replace this one, but they are sure becoming hard to find. I have no desire to "upgrade" to the "Touch".

snarlydwarf
2010-02-12, 11:25
The case on this model (SB3 with "Slim Devices" on the metal face) has no ventilation at all. Has this ever been an issue (overheating)?


Not that I've seen: a working SB doesn't get THAT hot. A bit warm perhaps, but not uncomfortable at all. (So, maybe 80 degrees F? No clue, I suck at estimating almost anything...)

Of course, some components just randomly die sometimes. I tend to blow up capacitors on video cards. ("ooh, look at the bulging top! I know what blew up!")

Depending on what happened as it died, it may be possible to replace if you know someone with some soldering skill.

Hobejam
2010-02-12, 11:35
Not that I've seen: a working SB doesn't get THAT hot. A bit warm perhaps, but not uncomfortable at all. (So, maybe 80 degrees F? No clue, I suck at estimating almost anything...)

Of course, some components just randomly die sometimes. I tend to blow up capacitors on video cards. ("ooh, look at the bulging top! I know what blew up!")

Depending on what happened as it died, it may be possible to replace if you know someone with some soldering skill.

Good points all around. :) I examined the PCB and all internal components looking for deformations, bad solders, or scorching and could not see anything. If something was obviously toasted I would not hesitate to heat up the soldering iron and attempt a fix. Can't tie the failure to an event because it was working when I left for work and dead when I got home.

Testing each individual component, however, is beyond my expertise (and attention span). ;)

tcutting
2010-02-12, 16:27
Did you try removing the wireless card?