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jimbo45
2010-01-17, 12:13
Hi all

Why is there so much negativity on these products -- from what I can see 99% of problems are related to incorrect network setup or Broadband bandwidth issues.

OK some of these Network problems can be confusing to "Non computer techies" -- especially if there is an unseen IP address conflict - but usually the devices connect fine FIRST TIME.

With any relatively new technology there will be teething problems --and I will agree that the setup and operation needs to be made "more Idiotproof" - but it will come I'm sure.

A lot of people have problems starting a new computer that they've just bought from a store so I'm sure some problems will always occur with any technical product.

Yes the main Server has been down from time to time --but not very often -- the "dropouts" are often from the Radio website itself -- such as BBC R5 and the SKY NEWS Radio service in Isleworth UK recently - but that was due to these sites being massively overloaded due to the events in Haiti recently.

Anyway here's one user in spite of initial teething troubles who is VERY HAPPY with the system and am going to get the Touch when it is available in the UK.

I already have a Squeezebox DUET and a RADIO (which I use daily).

Cheers
jimbo

nolan
2010-01-17, 12:51
Good post.

Despite a few niggles I am very happy with my 2*SB3's, Squeezebox Radio and old SB1.

I'm very impressed with the radio, it looks great and works well.

Personally I think the niggles are worth it for the flexibility you get with the Squeezebox Server approach. Although it just works I get frustrated with the limitations of iTunes etc...

amcluesent
2010-01-17, 14:50
+1, my SB3, 2*Boom, TP and Controller are great.

In contrast, it's taken me 4 MONTHS to get a workable set-up to hook up my DLNA-enabled Sony TV to a DLNA media streamer on Vista!

Ronald
2010-01-17, 15:17
Hi all

Why is there so much negativity on these products -- from what I can see 99% of problems are related to incorrect network setup or Broadband bandwidth issues.

OK some of these Network problems can be confusing to "Non computer techies" -- especially if there is an unseen IP address conflict - but usually the devices connect fine FIRST TIME.

With any relatively new technology there will be teething problems --and I will agree that the setup and operation needs to be made "more Idiotproof" - but it will come I'm sure.

A lot of people have problems starting a new computer that they've just bought from a store so I'm sure some problems will always occur with any technical product.

Yes the main Server has been down from time to time --but not very often -- the "dropouts" are often from the Radio website itself -- such as BBC R5 and the SKY NEWS Radio service in Isleworth UK recently - but that was due to these sites being massively overloaded due to the events in Haiti recently.

Anyway here's one user in spite of initial teething troubles who is VERY HAPPY with the system and am going to get the Touch when it is available in the UK.

I already have a Squeezebox DUET and a RADIO (which I use daily).

Cheers
jimbo

I totally agree and very well said. I love the Squeezeboxes and I have never listened to so much awesome music with such great fidelity. I,too, think that there is a lot of negativity, but it does seem to be decreasing. I cannot wait for the touch which is "in process".

sander
2010-01-17, 15:42
I think 90%+ of the people who post here like, or even love, their Squeezebox products. I own a bunch and overall they're easily one of the best purchases I ever made. I hope to the Squeezebox system for the rest of my life and losing it would be a great blow.

The negativity has to do with with a number of issues:
The seemingly never-ending parade of changes to the server which add no real new functionality, but just make it more difficult to keep up. This latest "app" boondongle is a classic example.
While the new devices are exciting and have greatly expanded the functionality of the Squeezebox system, there have been a number of gaffes (unreliable alarms, poor wifi, etc) which have detracted from the excitement.
Squeezeplay is still half finished mess which more than two years after its release has poor 3rd party support and lacks the functionality of it's primitive predecessor.
Lastly there are indications that Logitech is cooling on Squeezebox. They've embarked on an aggressive agenda, but they're not putting enough resources behind it to implement it correctly. In a worst case scenario they could leave the project in a very incomplete state if they cut back now.

All this said the glass is at the half full/empty, and the fact that people are complaining means they haven't given up, which is good. The Touch is the first truly new class of device since the SB2 IMHO, if they do a good job it could really revitalize everything.

nk7z
2010-01-17, 18:29
Hi,

I suspect it is because most folks here are here for help, as opposed to all working fine... I know I joined because I thought I would need help, but nope... All went well first time, and all is running like a top here in Oregon. Nice system, well thought out, and virtually no issues of any kind... The only real issue I had was my fault...

Anyway, that's my .02 cents worth...

Happy as hell with my Squeeze Radio!

Dave



Hi all

Why is there so much negativity on these products -- from what I can see 99% of problems are related to incorrect network setup or Broadband bandwidth issues.

OK some of these Network problems can be confusing to "Non computer techies" -- especially if there is an unseen IP address conflict - but usually the devices connect fine FIRST TIME.

With any relatively new technology there will be teething problems --and I will agree that the setup and operation needs to be made "more Idiotproof" - but it will come I'm sure.

A lot of people have problems starting a new computer that they've just bought from a store so I'm sure some problems will always occur with any technical product.

Yes the main Server has been down from time to time --but not very often -- the "dropouts" are often from the Radio website itself -- such as BBC R5 and the SKY NEWS Radio service in Isleworth UK recently - but that was due to these sites being massively overloaded due to the events in Haiti recently.

Anyway here's one user in spite of initial teething troubles who is VERY HAPPY with the system and am going to get the Touch when it is available in the UK.

I already have a Squeezebox DUET and a RADIO (which I use daily).

Cheers
jimbo

Gerry123
2010-01-17, 19:52
Other than the SBC that I sold on ebay, the other four players (2 X SB3, SBR and boom) have been ultra reliable from day one and are used on a daily basis. All ethernet here, none of that new fangled wireless thingy for me.

Seriously, it's ethernet because I can but I'm sure if I had to use wireless all would be fine too.

I love my squeezeboxes and I'm looking forward to many years of using them.

Gerry.

Mick Seymour
2010-01-18, 09:15
Yes, good post.

I have an SB3 and a Boom, running SqueezeCenter on a RedHat server and I'm very happy with it. I haven't moved to 7.4 because 7.3.3 is stable and I don't need the later release.

I've also just finished converting my music (CD, MD and cassette) to FLAC after 18 months of SB ownership so I'm sitting back listening to the music and thoroughly enjoying it.

MelonMonkey
2010-01-18, 09:21
You're always going to see negative comments, that will never change. Even when a product is the best of its class, or like the Squeezebox line, simply the best. There are still problems with the software, different people have different issues for different reasons. You're always going to see it.

But there's nothing else out there that compares. No Sonos, no Sooloos, not anything. It doesn't matter how much you're willing to spend, you're not going to find better or more useful audio playing software than Squeezebox Server, all things considered.

DaveWr
2010-01-18, 10:34
I agree entirely, because its free however, it doesn't really get the resources it needs these days to keep up with all the other product changes. Squeezebox Server really does need to be a product.

Dave

apn
2010-01-18, 11:39
++1, I simply *love* these products (Duet and Boom(s) at my house).

Despite the odd timeout fetching an internet stream, I've never regretted buying any of them. It just gets better and better for me, and I added a 2nd BOOM last month. All are connected over wireless.