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John Hunt
2004-08-03, 23:46
I also think we're being ripped off in the UK and looked into selling some
myself as I know a group of people who would be interested and the idea was
I would install it for them etc.

I contacted slim who put me in touch with a UK importer who offered to sell
them to me wholesale for more than I bought mine for retail! My profit per
unit would be -6 before I even added shipping costs or my time.

What did Tony Blair say about rip-off Britain?

It just beggars belief!

John M Hunt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com [mailto:discuss-
> bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of g7pkf
> Sent: 04 August 2004 07:28
> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] F*****d off
>
> After 9 months of using the slim software
> i finally saved up enough to buy one
> 3 DAYS AGO I BOUGHT IT!!!!!!!
> now saving being the operative word, with a baby
> on the way money is tight,
> uk suppliers charge $1=1 so in reality for us uk
> people get charged $350 and $420 dollars)(ish)
> respectively. import and you get
> stuffed for customs charges and 17.5% vat.
> so i bought a brand new one of ebay.
> and 3 days later it is out of date.
> $89 for an upgrade???? for something only 3
> days old!!!!!!!!

kdf
2004-08-04, 00:00
so, get a group together, organise a group buy and get the best price you can.
stop whinging, cause we ALL (outside the US) have import issues. trying being
the next door neighbour (canada) and getting shafted. I can tell you for sure
its not slim, its the bloody shippers. have you noticed the price of
blueberries in the UK??? what else is new. there are more productive things
that semi-censored cursing at everyone in a mailing list.
-kdf

Quoting John Hunt <johnmhunt_gvc (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk>:

> I also think we're being ripped off in the UK and looked into selling some
> myself as I know a group of people who would be interested and the idea was
> I would install it for them etc.
>
> I contacted slim who put me in touch with a UK importer who offered to sell
> them to me wholesale for more than I bought mine for retail! My profit per
> unit would be -6 before I even added shipping costs or my time.
>
> What did Tony Blair say about rip-off Britain?
>
> It just beggars belief!
>
> John M Hunt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com [mailto:discuss-
> > bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of g7pkf
> > Sent: 04 August 2004 07:28
> > To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > Subject: [slim] F*****d off
> >
> > After 9 months of using the slim software
> > i finally saved up enough to buy one
> > 3 DAYS AGO I BOUGHT IT!!!!!!!
> > now saving being the operative word, with a baby
> > on the way money is tight,
> > uk suppliers charge $1=1 so in reality for us uk
> > people get charged $350 and $420 dollars)(ish)
> > respectively. import and you get
> > stuffed for customs charges and 17.5% vat.
> > so i bought a brand new one of ebay.
> > and 3 days later it is out of date.
> > $89 for an upgrade???? for something only 3
> > days old!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>

g7pkf
2004-08-04, 00:41
I do hate it when people don't read the original post.

My complaint to slimdevices people and i hope they read this.
is that the
upgrade does not seem to be avalible outside the us yet
and that they have not taken into account people who recently
purchased one.
I am considering re-selling mine and giving up with it
as i am not happy about
no notice being given of a possible upgrade and no discount
for recent purchasers.
I cant justfy paying out over $100 (incl vat and duty)
again after such a short time.

the other purpose of the post was to hopefully make
the guys at slim realize that not everyone is
over the moon after the upgrade
and maybe change the way they do the next one.


also will they be continuing support for those
of us that cant afford the upgrade?

all in all i am very unhappy, not with the device but
in the way that the upgrade has been marketed.

kdf
2004-08-04, 00:52
Quoting g7pkf <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk>:

> I do hate it when people don't read the original post.
and I do hate when ppl rant becuawse the fail to read the sales slip...
from the order page "30-day Satisfaction Guarantee".

> My complaint to slimdevices people and i hope they read this.
> is that the
> upgrade does not seem to be avalible outside the us yet
> and that they have not taken into account people who recently
> purchased one.
and you dont read posts either. Sean...ie CEO of slimdevices, said an upgrade
plan in coming soon. you'd thinkg you'd bed used to this yet. do you bark at
channel 4 like this when they can't keep up to recent seasons of Stargate SG1?

> I am considering re-selling mine and giving up with it
> as i am not happy about
> no notice being given of a possible upgrade and no discount
> for recent purchasers.
> I cant justfy paying out over $100 (incl vat and duty)
> again after such a short time.

> the other purpose of the post was to hopefully make
> the guys at slim realize that not everyone is
> over the moon after the upgrade
> and maybe change the way they do the next one.
>

>
> also will they be continuing support for those
> of us that cant afford the upgrade?
yes, yes yes...that has also been said a dozen times.

> all in all i am very unhappy, not with the device but
> in the way that the upgrade has been marketed.
good to know...
-kdf
so send it bakc and shut up.

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_H=FCbner?=
2004-08-04, 00:56
g7pkf wrote:

> I do hate it when people don't read the original post.
>
> My complaint to slimdevices people and i hope they read this.
> is that the
> upgrade does not seem to be avalible outside the us yet
> and that they have not taken into account people who recently
> purchased one.

Well - the upgrade was announced yesterday. It cannot be expected from a
company of the size of Slim Devices to be able to do a worldwide launch
simultaneously. Secondly, you wrote that your Squeezebox was purchased
off Ebay - why should Slim Devices take into account people who bought
second hand ones? Personally, I think thta offering an upgrade is a very
generous offer that I would consider if I had a Squeezebox. Myself, I
bought a Slimp3 about a month before the launch of Squeezebox -
obviously I was disappointed, but Dean, Sean, Patrick et al at Slim
Devices have supported the Slimp3 throughout this time.

> I am considering re-selling mine and giving up with it
> as i am not happy about
> no notice being given of a possible upgrade and no discount
> for recent purchasers.
> I cant justfy paying out over $100 (incl vat and duty)
> again after such a short time.

Well, sell yours and buy a new one if you are so disappointed. I have
kept my Slimp3 and I am very satisfied although I would really want a
new Squeezebox.

> the other purpose of the post was to hopefully make
> the guys at slim realize that not everyone is
> over the moon after the upgrade
> and maybe change the way they do the next one.
>
>
> also will they be continuing support for those
> of us that cant afford the upgrade?

See above
>
> all in all i am very unhappy, not with the device but
> in the way that the upgrade has been marketed.

/Johan

--
Johan

mherger
2004-08-04, 01:13
> I do hate it when people don't read the original post.

Please calm down a little. You did not read all the posts regarding your
questions neither. Some might hate people who don't read before asking...

[..]
> I am considering re-selling mine and giving up with it
> as i am not happy about
> no notice being given of a possible upgrade and no discount
> for recent purchasers.

Do you prefer MS's way of announcing Windows 4.0 (or XP or Longhorn or...)
for many years, finally delivering a product which has little in common
with the first announcements? Announcements put pressure on timelines
which are not always good for a product. We've seen this discussion many
times on other mailing lists and newsgroups. Both strategies have pros and
cons. But I prefer stable products, even if announcements are sometimes a
little late for personal decisions

> I cant justfy paying out over $100 (incl vat and duty)
> again after such a short time.

You don't have to.

[..]
> also will they be continuing support for those
> of us that cant afford the upgrade?

As I wrote already... go read those announcements!

> all in all i am very unhappy, not with the device but
> in the way that the upgrade has been marketed.

--

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g7pkf
2004-08-04, 01:15
I paid over £100 less (apx $175) for a brand new one off ebay,
yes it was BRAND NEW NOT SECOND HAND.
obviously had been imported from the states as at this price there is no way
that it was uk sourced.
if anyone can justify paying a uk reseller the extra i would be surprised
and very scepticable about there reasoning.
At some point it was sold by slim so therefore it should not
matter that it was bought of auction, they still got there money!
so no more whinges about where i bought it.
if it hadnt been for duty and vat i would have ordered direct!
either way slim got there slice.

It has taken me a long time to save to buy this one,
as i originally ststed we have a baby on the way and
there are other priorities in life at the moment.

I looked at buying in a group and it worked out that it would cost me
about £10 a unit over what i would pay retail.

I have been thinking about emigrating for a long time now.
thinking about it harder and harder now.

g7pkf
2004-08-04, 01:20
kdf <slim-mail@...> writes:

>
> Quoting g7pkf <dean@...>:
>
> > I do hate it when people don't read the original post.
> and I do hate when ppl rant becuawse the fail to read the sales slip...
> from the order page "30-day Satisfaction Guarantee".
>
> > My complaint to slimdevices people and i hope they read this.
> > is that the
> > upgrade does not seem to be avalible outside the us yet
> > and that they have not taken into account people who recently
> > purchased one.
> and you dont read posts either. Sean...ie CEO of slimdevices, said an upgrade
> plan in coming soon. you'd thinkg you'd bed used to this yet. do you bark at
> channel 4 like this when they can't keep up to recent seasons of Stargate SG1?
>
> > I am considering re-selling mine and giving up with it
> > as i am not happy about
> > no notice being given of a possible upgrade and no discount
> > for recent purchasers.
> > I cant justfy paying out over $100 (incl vat and duty)
> > again after such a short time.
>
> > the other purpose of the post was to hopefully make
> > the guys at slim realize that not everyone is
> > over the moon after the upgrade
> > and maybe change the way they do the next one.
> >
>
> >
> > also will they be continuing support for those
> > of us that cant afford the upgrade?
> yes, yes yes...that has also been said a dozen times.
>
> > all in all i am very unhappy, not with the device but
> > in the way that the upgrade has been marketed.
> good to know...
> -kdf
> so send it bakc and shut up.
>

30 day satisfaction only applies to ones purchased direct.
I paid over £100 less (apx $175) for a brand new one off ebay,
yes it was BRAND NEW NOT SECOND HAND.
obviously had been imported from the states as at this price there is no way
that it was uk sourced.
if anyone can justify paying a uk reseller the extra i would be surprised
and very scepticable about there reasoning.
At some point it was sold by slim so therefore it should not
matter that it was bought of auction, they still got there money!
so no more whinges about where i bought it.
if it hadnt been for duty and vat i would have ordered direct!
either way slim got there slice.

It has taken me a long time to save to buy this one,
as i originally stated we have a baby on the way and
there are other priorities in life at the moment.

I looked at buying in a group and it worked out that it would cost me
about £10 a unit over what i would pay retail.

I have been thinking about emigrating for a long time now.
thinking about it harder and harder now.

yes i do rant about ch4 so i got sky.

kdf
2004-08-04, 01:30
Quoting g7pkf <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk>:

> I paid over £100 less (apx $175) for a brand new one off ebay,
> yes it was BRAND NEW NOT SECOND HAND.
er...ok, if you say so.

> obviously had been imported from the states as at this price there is no way
> that it was uk sourced.
> if anyone can justify paying a uk reseller the extra i would be surprised
> and very scepticable about there reasoning.
> At some point it was sold by slim so therefore it should not
> matter that it was bought of auction, they still got there money!
> so no more whinges about where i bought it.
> if it hadnt been for duty and vat i would have ordered direct!
> either way slim got there slice.
and you get full support for your "brand new device" as anyone else would. its
not obsolete.

> It has taken me a long time to save to buy this one,
> as i originally ststed we have a baby on the way and
> there are other priorities in life at the moment.
then enjoy it. its a great piece of kit. honestly, if you are so hot-headedly
jealous of the Jones's, you really need to consider where you buy things, or
perhaps a new career. Either way, you have a great piece of kit. be glad for
the money you saved. spend it on your partner or your kids if you are lucky
enough to have any.

> I looked at buying in a group and it worked out that it would cost me
> about £10 a unit over what i would pay retail.
great, so why are you upset?

> I have been thinking about emigrating for a long time now.
> thinking about it harder and harder now.

let me remind you before you get too anxious....they have Celine Dion now...
-kdf

g7pkf
2004-08-04, 01:35
Right i seem to have got off on the wrong foot on this list.

I got up this morning read my email and saw red.

I should calm down.

Dont get me wrong i love the device i think it is the dogs, until
this morning i would have rated it in my top 10 best buys

i just hope slim sort out a decent upgrade policy for
EVERYONE NOT LIVING IN THE US.

Lets wait and see if we the CEO readds this list (or someone prints this thread
and gives it to him)

and wait for his reply!

I am still not happy, but as the saying goes lifes a bi**h then you marry one

Peter
2004-08-04, 01:39
The "30-day Satisfaction Guarantee" mentioned by kdf, does this mean that if
you bought within the last 30 days you can return the box and get a new
model for free instead ?

Thanks,
Peter

kdf
2004-08-04, 01:51
Quoting g7pkf <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk>:

> Right i seem to have got off on the wrong foot on this list.
>
> I got up this morning read my email and saw red.
>
> I should calm down.
>
> Dont get me wrong i love the device i think it is the dogs, until
> this morning i would have rated it in my top 10 best buys
>
> i just hope slim sort out a decent upgrade policy for
> EVERYONE NOT LIVING IN THE US.
>
> Lets wait and see if we the CEO readds this list (or someone prints this
> thread
> and gives it to him)

jeez, you don't get it do you. He's the one who made the announcement that made
you see red. of course he reads this list, and he's already said that upgrade
plans are being worked out. Sit down, take a deep breath, have a beer...and
just wait for info instead of ranting onward. you really are fuming from your
backside at this point.

kdf
2004-08-04, 01:53
Quoting Peter <po (AT) dsinet (DOT) dk>:

> The "30-day Satisfaction Guarantee" mentioned by kdf, does this mean that if
> you bought within the last 30 days you can return the box and get a new
> model for free instead ?
>
>
http://www.slimdevices.com/su_sales.html#returns

Neil Cameron
2004-08-04, 01:55
I'm glad we're all calming down - I should be really pissed, I will need
three upgrades!
I just want to know what the extra asterisk stands for? ;-)

By the way, brand new Wireless Squeezeboxes are available from Multitask
Computing in the UK (among others) for 199 inc VAT.
--
Neil

"g7pkf" <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:loom.20040804T103055-905 (AT) post (DOT) gmane.org...
> Right i seem to have got off on the wrong foot on this list.
>
> I got up this morning read my email and saw red.
>
> I should calm down.
>
> Dont get me wrong i love the device i think it is the dogs, until
> this morning i would have rated it in my top 10 best buys
>
> i just hope slim sort out a decent upgrade policy for
> EVERYONE NOT LIVING IN THE US.
>
> Lets wait and see if we the CEO readds this list (or someone prints this
thread
> and gives it to him)
>
> and wait for his reply!
>
> I am still not happy, but as the saying goes lifes a bi**h then you marry
one

Robin Bowes
2004-08-04, 02:18
On Wed, August 4, 2004 9:55, Neil Cameron said:
>
> By the way, brand new Wireless Squeezeboxes are available from Multitask
> Computing in the UK (among others) for 199 inc VAT.

The cheapest I found was 189.99 inc. VAT and shipping from http://www.sputnikshop.com

Incidentally, I bought mine on 14th July so I think I'll be sending it back to swap for a Wireless-G version under the terms of the 30-day

[goes off and checks the T&Cs of the 30-day offer...]

Bah! From the website: (http://www.slimdevices.com/su_sales.html#returns)

"Is the 30-day satisfaction guarantee valid if I purchase through a reseller?
Unfortunately, this only pertains to products purchased from this website. Any purchase through a reseller will need to be addressed through that reseller."

I wonder if sputnikshop would be interested...

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

Torgeir Veimo
2004-08-04, 02:27
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 10:18 +0100, Robin Bowes wrote:
> On Wed, August 4, 2004 9:55, Neil Cameron said:
> >
> > By the way, brand new Wireless Squeezeboxes are available from Multitask
> > Computing in the UK (among others) for 199 inc VAT.
>
> The cheapest I found was 189.99 inc. VAT and shipping from http://www.sputnikshop.com
>
> Incidentally, I bought mine on 14th July so I think I'll be sending it back to swap for a Wireless-G version under the terms of the 30-day
>
> [goes off and checks the T&Cs of the 30-day offer...]
>
> Bah! From the website: (http://www.slimdevices.com/su_sales.html#returns)
>
> "Is the 30-day satisfaction guarantee valid if I purchase through a reseller?
> Unfortunately, this only pertains to products purchased from this website. Any purchase through a reseller will need to be addressed through that reseller."

I got mine the 14th as well, but got it working only yesterday due to
huge aac playback problems under linux.

I wish that in the future slimdevices will announce new products a few
weeks in advance to avoid such problems.

--
-Torgeir

Robin Bowes
2004-08-04, 02:41
On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:27, Torgeir Veimo said:
>
> I got mine the 14th as well, but got it working only yesterday due to
> huge aac playback problems under linux.

Did you ever get faad to build from the CVS version, as per my guide?

> I wish that in the future slimdevices will announce new products a few
> weeks in advance to avoid such problems.

Yeah, I would have liked that too. My only issue of concern with the Squeezebox was the display - some of the fonts look a little clunky (e.g. something like \/\/ for "w").

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

Torgeir Veimo
2004-08-04, 02:57
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 10:41 +0100, Robin Bowes wrote:
> On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:27, Torgeir Veimo said:
> >
> > I got mine the 14th as well, but got it working only yesterday due to
> > huge aac playback problems under linux.
>
> Did you ever get faad to build from the CVS version, as per my guide?

No, I got the same compile problem with all versions. It must be either
a problem of stray include files or wrong gcc version. It works with my
sox addition to swap bytes though, so I'm keeping that for now.

--
-Torgeir

max barker
2004-08-04, 03:23
If you are not pleased with the quality of your Squeezebox, you should
consider returning it to the auction vendor. I'm sure their returns policy
is as accommodating as SlimDevices or one of the UK resellers like Laser or
Multitask (both of which bend over backwards to accommodate customers). If
not, at least you got it cheap.

Incidentally, the quality of the original VFD is excellent. The official
retail Squeezebox was a bargain before, it's just more of a bargain now.
You've repeated stated (I'll misquote) "baby on way, money tight..." perhaps
there is something of a higher priority you should address before buying
hi-fi equipment. May I suggest a savings account for the child?

Max

----- Original Message -----
From: "g7pkf" <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: [slim] F*****d off


> I paid over £100 less (apx $175) for a brand new one off ebay,
> yes it was BRAND NEW NOT SECOND HAND.
> obviously had been imported from the states as at this price there is no
way
> that it was uk sourced.
> if anyone can justify paying a uk reseller the extra i would be surprised
> and very scepticable about there reasoning.
> At some point it was sold by slim so therefore it should not
> matter that it was bought of auction, they still got there money!
> so no more whinges about where i bought it.
> if it hadnt been for duty and vat i would have ordered direct!
> either way slim got there slice.
>
> It has taken me a long time to save to buy this one,
> as i originally ststed we have a baby on the way and
> there are other priorities in life at the moment.
>
> I looked at buying in a group and it worked out that it would cost me
> about £10 a unit over what i would pay retail.
>
> I have been thinking about emigrating for a long time now.
> thinking about it harder and harder now.
>
>
>
>

Robin Bowes
2004-08-04, 03:29
On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:57, Torgeir Veimo said:
> On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 10:41 +0100, Robin Bowes wrote:
>
>> On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:27, Torgeir Veimo said:
>>
>>>
>>> I got mine the 14th as well, but got it working only yesterday due to
>>> huge aac playback problems under linux.
>>
>> Did you ever get faad to build from the CVS version, as per my guide?
>>
>
> No, I got the same compile problem with all versions. It must be either
> a problem of stray include files or wrong gcc version. It works with my sox addition to
> swap bytes though, so I'm keeping that for now.

What distro are you using?

Can you do a dump of the versions of all tools you have installed and I'll compare with my environment?

I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

g7pkf
2004-08-04, 03:52
max barker <max.adamiec@...> writes:

>
> If you are not pleased with the quality of your Squeezebox, you should
> consider returning it to the auction vendor. I'm sure their returns policy
> is as accommodating as SlimDevices or one of the UK resellers like Laser or
> Multitask (both of which bend over backwards to accommodate customers). If
> not, at least you got it cheap.

yes i did, a lot cheaper and i do not like spending what i dont have to.


>
> Incidentally, the quality of the original VFD is excellent. The official
> retail Squeezebox was a bargain before, it's just more of a bargain now.
> You've repeated stated (I'll misquote) "baby on way, money tight..." perhaps
> there is something of a higher priority you should address before buying
> hi-fi equipment. May I suggest a savings account for the child?

I take it you are in the uk and know savings are a waste of time

even child savings (i have looked). i decided to buy a bigger house
as a better investment.
but thats digression

my complaint was stated in other posts. but mainly were
the way slim announced the upgrade
and seem to think everyone lives in the us
with only a passing comment for people outside the us.


I am wondering how many they get returned under there 30 day satisfaction
gaurantee. which is of no use to anyone who did not order direct.
(reasons for not ordering direct also stated in another post)

max barker
2004-08-04, 04:19
----- Original Message -----
From: "g7pkf" <dean (AT) packetradio (DOT) co.uk>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: [slim] F*****d off


<snip>
> I take it you are in the uk and know savings are a waste of time
>
> even child savings (i have looked). i decided to buy a bigger house
> as a better investment.
> but thats digression

I live in "the poorest city in England", we're so proud to have the lowest
average wage and fourth highest unemployment :-)
I find it hard to believe that any one can say savings are a waste of time,
compared with the current grossly inflated house prices. Do you really think
property values are going to continue to climb?


> my complaint was stated in other posts. but mainly were
> the way slim announced the upgrade
> and seem to think everyone lives in the us
> with only a passing comment for people outside the us.
>
> I am wondering how many they get returned under there 30 day satisfaction
> gaurantee. which is of no use to anyone who did not order direct.
> (reasons for not ordering direct also stated in another post)
>

SlimDevices are a relatively small US based company. We are in a secondary
market and receive a higher level of support from them than many of the big
manufacturers bother to supply. You have bought a US sourced player and are
asking for immediate international support. If you had bought from
SlimDevices you could have returned under their 30 day gaurantee, if you had
bought from a UK reseller you could have returned under your statutory
rights or the distance selling act.

SlimDevices do not have to offer upgrades or rebates, but they do anyway.
These upgrades may come to the UK, they may not. The Squeezebox you have
bought is excellent, enjoy it. They support from Slim is flawless, you'll
never have to threaten them with Watchdog.
Hooray for Slim.

Max

Peter Bowyer
2004-08-04, 05:23
g7pkf said:
>
> my complaint was stated in other posts. but mainly were
> the way slim announced the upgrade
> and seem to think everyone lives in the us
> with only a passing comment for people outside the us.

If you'd been here longer than 5 minutes, you'd know that statement is
complete rubbish, and an insult to the people at Slimdevices. Dean has
said 'watch this space' for international upgrades, and he's not known for
saying things he doesn't mean.

> I am wondering how many they get returned under there 30 day satisfaction
> gaurantee. which is of no use to anyone who did not order direct.
> (reasons for not ordering direct also stated in another post)

The party taking the retail margin is the only one who can afford this
guarantee. As you've already been told, you're protected under UK
legislation if you buy from a UK disti, and most of them offer something
above and beyond their legal obligation. You chose your supplier based on
cost alone, and you've just discovered one reason why that's not always a
good policy. There's nothing wrong with that channel, but you can't expect
retail-price benefits when you pay auction price.

Peter

Daniel Cohen
2004-08-04, 09:23
On 4/8/04 at 10:18 am +0100, Robin Bowes wrote
>The cheapest I found was 189.99 inc. VAT and shipping from
>http://www.sputnikshop.com
>
>Incidentally, I bought mine on 14th July so I think I'll be sending
>it back to swap for a Wireless-G version under the terms of the
>30-day
>
>[goes off and checks the T&Cs of the 30-day offer...]
>
>Bah! From the website: (http://www.slimdevices.com/su_sales.html#returns)
>
>"Is the 30-day satisfaction guarantee valid if I purchase through a reseller?
>Unfortunately, this only pertains to products purchased from this
>website. Any purchase through a reseller will need to be addressed
>through that reseller."
>
>I wonder if sputnikshop would be interested...

Unlikely, I would think.

Too late for you, but remember that there is *always* a seven-day
return period on distance selling in the UK, and some firms offer a
longer period.
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Daniel Cohen

Torgeir Veimo
2004-08-09, 15:32
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 11:29 +0100, Robin Bowes wrote:
> On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:57, Torgeir Veimo said:
> > On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 10:41 +0100, Robin Bowes wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, August 4, 2004 10:27, Torgeir Veimo said:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I got mine the 14th as well, but got it working only yesterday due to
> >>> huge aac playback problems under linux.
> >>
> >> Did you ever get faad to build from the CVS version, as per my guide?
> >>
> >
> > No, I got the same compile problem with all versions. It must be either
> > a problem of stray include files or wrong gcc version. It works with my sox addition to
> > swap bytes though, so I'm keeping that for now.
>
> What distro are you using?
>
> Can you do a dump of the versions of all tools you have installed and I'll compare with my environment?
>
> I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

I am unable to reproduce the compile error now. I think it was a stray
include file from the previous version of faad in /usr/include. I
remember removing a mp4.h file.

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-Torgeir