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Charles Kinard
2004-08-01, 05:37
Roy,

Can you explain or is there a good article you have written that
explains how to setup SSH on the machines. I agree with you, there are
too many prying eyes out there.

Charles..

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Subject: [slim] Softsqueeze .6 on Mac 10.3.4

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:34:37 -0400
"Charles Kinard" <CKinard (AT) ocngolf (DOT) com> wrote:

> Roy,
>
> I noticed your article on softsqueeze in regards to at Mac. I do not
> have a squeezebox. I too am trying to get the Softsqueeze to function
> from work to my server (all windows environment, not MAC) I have
> running at home. Softsqueeze GUI works just fine there from several
> machines I have throughout my home. I do have a router as well. I
> have a 192.168.X.X address on my machine here at work (XP Pro box) I
> have softsqueeze installed at work by clicking on the
> http://my.ip.address:9000/html/softsqueeze/webstart.html link in my
> browser. When I get to the point of finally putting in my home ip of
> the router and click "ok" it just sits there trying to connect. What
> am I missing here. I am not trying to use SSH tunneling. Do I still
> have to forward port 22 thru on my router to the inside server to make
> the final connection.

Charles, you need to forward ports 3483 *and* 9000 from your router to
the SlimServer machine. 9000 is just for the web interface. 3483 is
where the Squeezebox and SoftSqueeze actually talk to the server. Port
22 is not necessary unless you want to use SSH tunneling. Personally, I
like the SSH tunnel because it lets me forward several other ports on
the same connection. It also prevents exposing the SlimServer to the
internet at large and the malicious folk who frequent it. But opinons
do vary.

> The other thing that is funny is I can get it to work thru "Winamp"
> from my machine here at work just not softsqueeze. Winamp's infernal
> "buffering" is driving me crazy so this is another reason I am trying
> to get softsqueeze to work instead. Plus I like the fact I can
> forward to the next track, get a playlist, etc... which you can not do
> with Winamp.

Winamp is getting the MP3 stream over port 9000, so I'd expect it to
work. But yeah, it buffers more than RealPlayer.

Another thing to keep in mind is your upstream bandwidth. If you have a
small upstream pipe, you may want to set a rate limit on SoftSqueeze. I
limit mine to 64 KB/s, not so much for my upstream (which is plenty wide
enough for 256 KB/s), but because my workplace only has a T-1 and they
would probably not appreciate my using 25% of it all day. :) Rate
limiting is set on the "Player Settings" page of the web interface.
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Mike Kozlowski
2004-08-01, 07:45
At the moment, I have all my music in WMA Lossless, and use the Squeezebox
against that with great results. However, I'm going to want a portable
player soon, and the iPod is a zillion times better than all the other
options (for me; YMMV), so I'm thinking about converting over to iTunes.
This is a fairly straightforward conversion, but since the SB will still
be the primary music-access device, I'm wondering what the impact will be
there.

Obviously, iTunes integration is supported, but does anyone have a
sense of how it compares in maturity to the WMA playback? More/less
stable? Loses/gains any features? More/less cross-platformable? In
short, is there any Squeezebox-related reason to keep things in WMA, or
switch to Apple Lossless?

Thanks.

--
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Roy M. Silvernail
2004-08-01, 11:20
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 08:37:55 -0400
"Charles Kinard" <CKinard (AT) ocngolf (DOT) com> wrote:

> Roy,
>
> Can you explain or is there a good article you have written that
> explains how to setup SSH on the machines. I agree with you, there
> are too many prying eyes out there.

I will have to defer to one of the Mac users on the list for the server
setup, since I'm pretty much Mac-ignorant. (nice machines, but I don't
use them personally) The SoftSqueeze side is dead simple. Just download
SoftSqueeze directly to the machine you want to run it on (in your case,
your work machine), unpack it and start it up. Then in the preferences
dialog, tick the 'Use SSH Tunnel' box, fill in the server information
and you're good to go.

When you get a bit more advanced at SSH-fu, you'll probably want to move
to public-key authentication. That simply requires you to generate a
key pair with ssh-keygen, install the private half on your server and
take the public half to your SoftSqueeze client box. After that, you
use the key's passphrase instead of a password. Just a little more
insulation from all those prying eyes.
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and muttering incoherent slogans about freedom are eventually going to
provide us with a great deal of entertainment." - George Carlin
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