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Karl W. Reinsch
2004-07-17, 20:25
Is there a way to configure the SlimServer software to do playback locally
on the localhost?

The only option I see is to point a local MP3 player at the stream
http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3

However, that means only playing mp3 quality and I would like to play
FLAC...

kdf
2004-07-17, 20:39
http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/webstart.html
you will need Java 1.4 or higher installed.

or, you can download the latest and greatest version of softsqueeze by going to
google and searching for softsqueeze. You will need Java 1.5.2 Beta for this.

-kdf

Quoting "Karl W. Reinsch" <karl (AT) rockin-r (DOT) net>:

> Is there a way to configure the SlimServer software to do playback locally
> on the localhost?
>
> The only option I see is to point a local MP3 player at the stream
> http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3
>
> However, that means only playing mp3 quality and I would like to play
> FLAC...
>
>
>

Harry McQuillen
2004-07-17, 21:41
Finally got fed up with 5.1.3 and jumped to 5.2.1. Unfortunately
have lost my remote and it's asking me to push the brightness button.
I'm not sure if someone walked off with it at the party or if the cats
hid it in the ivy, but I never use the damn thing anyway since we have
wifi laptops and use the web interface.

Is there anyway I can re-set the firmware without getting a new remote?

-Harry

Daniel Cohen
2004-07-18, 00:55
On 17/7/04 at 8:39 pm -0700, kdf wrote
>http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/webstart.html
>you will need Java 1.4 or higher installed.


Can you remind me what the situation is with Softsqueeze on the Mac.
I thought I saw some mention that it was included in the preference
pane, but I couldn't find it. Yes, I did bring up the contextual menu
to show the package contents.

Also, I tried that Web address, and got a message that Java had to be
installed, although I have Java 1.4.1 running (will upgrade to 1.4.2
shortly).

>
>or, you can download the latest and greatest version of softsqueeze
>by going to
>google and searching for softsqueeze. You will need Java 1.5.2 Beta for this.

And does this mean that the latest versions don't work on a Mac (OS
10.3.3, soon to be upgraded to 10.3.4)

(Later) Basic playing seems to be working ok with the latest
downloaded Softsqueeze and Java 1.4.1, but have only been trying for
a few minutes.

There's one oddity. Softsqueeze insists that I have a file named
IEmp3. That's the original name of a file that I renamed to something
more understandable. Rescanning music library doesn't seem to do
anything, though the Squeezebox does show the correct name.
--
Daniel Cohen

rtitmuss
2004-07-19, 01:24
Daniel,

Softsqueeze will work using Java 1.4 on all platforms. On Windows and
Linux using Java 1.5 (currently beta 2) the playback quality is improved
and synchronization with hardware players will work. Apple have not
released Java 1.5 for the Mac yet, so you will need to use Java 1.4 on
the Mac.

I don't understand why Softsqueeze and the Squeezebox show different
names for the same file. They are both 'thin' players, the slimserver
generates all the text that is displayed. Have you got different
settings for the two players?

Regards,
Richard


Daniel Cohen wrote:

> On 17/7/04 at 8:39 pm -0700, kdf wrote
>
>> http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/webstart.html
>> you will need Java 1.4 or higher installed.
>
>
>
> Can you remind me what the situation is with Softsqueeze on the Mac. I
> thought I saw some mention that it was included in the preference
> pane, but I couldn't find it. Yes, I did bring up the contextual menu
> to show the package contents.
>
> Also, I tried that Web address, and got a message that Java had to be
> installed, although I have Java 1.4.1 running (will upgrade to 1.4.2
> shortly).
>
>>
>> or, you can download the latest and greatest version of softsqueeze
>> by going to
>> google and searching for softsqueeze. You will need Java 1.5.2 Beta
>> for this.
>
>
> And does this mean that the latest versions don't work on a Mac (OS
> 10.3.3, soon to be upgraded to 10.3.4)
>
> (Later) Basic playing seems to be working ok with the latest
> downloaded Softsqueeze and Java 1.4.1, but have only been trying for a
> few minutes.
>
> There's one oddity. Softsqueeze insists that I have a file named
> IEmp3. That's the original name of a file that I renamed to something
> more understandable. Rescanning music library doesn't seem to do
> anything, though the Squeezebox does show the correct name.

Daniel Cohen
2004-07-19, 10:42
On 19/7/04 at 9:24 am +0100, Richard Titmuss wrote
>Daniel,
>
>Softsqueeze will work using Java 1.4 on all platforms. On Windows
>and Linux using Java 1.5 (currently beta 2) the playback quality is
>improved and synchronization with hardware players will work. Apple
>have not released Java 1.5 for the Mac yet, so you will need to use
>Java 1.4 on the Mac.


Thanks. that explains things. Do you have a recommendation on whether
to start using the SoftSqueeze.jar file or the webstart.html?

>
>I don't understand why Softsqueeze and the Squeezebox show different
>names for the same file. They are both 'thin' players, the
>slimserver generates all the text that is displayed. Have you got
>different settings for the two players?
>
>Regards,
>Richard


It is possible that some settings are different without my realising
it, which is partly why I asked. As mentioned, I have just upgraded
to SlimServer 5.2.1 from 5.1, after having been away for six weeks or
so, and there may be something I need to reset. The same behaviour
shows on more than one file.

Playing the file on my Squeezebox I note that the files are named
(when I do Browse Music Folder) as they are on my desktop, as names
like sensiblename.mp3. This is a renaming from original names such as
meaninglessname.mp3, and it is the meaninglessname that shows up when
I do Browse Music Folder on SoftSqueeze. On the Squeezebox when
playing the file shows up as sensiblename.mp3 but its title is shown
as meaninglessname.mp3. The files were originally aiff files that got
converted to mp3 using iTunes and then renamed, so it is quite
possible that there is an internal tag that is being picked up by
SoftSqueeze but not by the Squeezebox.

>
>
>Daniel Cohen wrote:
>
>>On 17/7/04 at 8:39 pm -0700, kdf wrote
>>
>>>http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/webstart.html
>>>you will need Java 1.4 or higher installed.
>>
>>
>>
>>Can you remind me what the situation is with Softsqueeze on the
>>Mac. I thought I saw some mention that it was included in the
>>preference pane, but I couldn't find it. Yes, I did bring up the
>>contextual menu to show the package contents.
>>
>>Also, I tried that Web address, and got a message that Java had to
>>be installed, although I have Java 1.4.1 running (will upgrade to
>>1.4.2 shortly).
>>
>>>
>>>or, you can download the latest and greatest version of
>>>softsqueeze by going to
>>>google and searching for softsqueeze. You will need Java 1.5.2
>>>Beta for this.
>>
>>
>>And does this mean that the latest versions don't work on a Mac (OS
>>10.3.3, soon to be upgraded to 10.3.4)
>>
>>(Later) Basic playing seems to be working ok with the latest
>>downloaded Softsqueeze and Java 1.4.1, but have only been trying
>>for a few minutes.
>>
>>There's one oddity. Softsqueeze insists that I have a file named
>>IEmp3. That's the original name of a file that I renamed to
>>something more understandable. Rescanning music library doesn't
>>seem to do anything, though the Squeezebox does show the correct
>>name.
>
>
>

kdf
2004-07-19, 10:52
Quoting Daniel Cohen <danco (AT) f2s (DOT) com>:


> Playing the file on my Squeezebox I note that the files are named
> (when I do Browse Music Folder) as they are on my desktop, as names
> like sensiblename.mp3. This is a renaming from original names such as
> meaninglessname.mp3, and it is the meaninglessname that shows up when
> I do Browse Music Folder on SoftSqueeze. On the Squeezebox when
> playing the file shows up as sensiblename.mp3 but its title is shown
> as meaninglessname.mp3. The files were originally aiff files that got
> converted to mp3 using iTunes and then renamed, so it is quite
> possible that there is an internal tag that is being picked up by
> SoftSqueeze but not by the Squeezebox.
>
This is unlikely, since they both use the same server, and it is the server that
handles all the information read form files and sent to players. You may have
old playlists that are somehow interfering. These would be remembered playlists
that are reloaded to each player on startup, or perhaps you have written out
playlists that contain some invalid metadata. Try going into your playlists
folder and deleting all the files that start with '__' and see if that clears up
the problem. If you are loathe to deleting them, moving them out of the server
path would be just as effective for the test.

-kdf

Daniel Cohen
2004-07-19, 15:22
On 19/7/04 at 10:52 am -0700, kdf wrote
>This is unlikely, since they both use the same server, and it is the
>server that
>handles all the information read form files and sent to players. You may have
>old playlists that are somehow interfering. These would be
>remembered playlists
>that are reloaded to each player on startup, or perhaps you have written out
>playlists that contain some invalid metadata.

I found the issue. I don't think it had occurred until I updated, but
the Squeezebox had file.ext as the song title format, while
softsqueeze (but see below) had track title as the format.

By the way, previously, if my memory serves, Softsqueeze showed up as
a player, while now the player is shown as 192.168.1.11 and is
visible and adjustable even when Softsqueeze has been quit.
--
Daniel Cohen

rtitmuss
2004-07-21, 10:02
Daniel,

> Thanks. that explains things. Do you have a recommendation on whether
> to start using the SoftSqueeze.jar file or the webstart.html?

As far as running the application they both should be the same. Webstart is
the best method as the application will automatically update when you
upgrade the server. (The only exception is that some versions of IE won't
work with webstart and the slimserver, I will be working on a fix for that
soon).

Regards,
Richard

rtitmuss
2004-07-22, 12:14
Daniel,

> Thanks. that explains things. Do you have a recommendation on whether
> to start using the SoftSqueeze.jar file or the webstart.html?

As far as running the application they both should be the same. Webstart is
the best method as the application will automatically update when you
upgrade the server. (The only exception is that some versions of IE won't
work with webstart and the slimserver, I will be working on a fix for that
soon).

Regards,
Richard

rtitmuss
2004-07-26, 01:14
Daniel Cohen wrote:

> By the way, previously, if my memory serves, Softsqueeze showed up as
> a player, while now the player is shown as 192.168.1.11 and is visible
> and adjustable even when Softsqueeze has been quit.

Softsqueeze will always have appeared as a player, you probably renamed
it as some stage changing the ip address to a name. The way Softsqueeze
generates player ids was changed between v0.4 - v0.5. So it is possible
that a new player for Softsqueeze was created in your slimserver. You
should be able to see Softsqueeze in the web interface even when it's
quit, just like you can see Squeezebox's after you have removed the power.

Regards,
Richard

Daniel Cohen
2004-07-27, 09:13
On 26/7/04 at 9:14 am +0100, Richard Titmuss wrote
>Daniel Cohen wrote:
>
>>By the way, previously, if my memory serves, Softsqueeze showed up
>>as a player, while now the player is shown as 192.168.1.11 and is
>>visible and adjustable even when Softsqueeze has been quit.
>
>Softsqueeze will always have appeared as a player, you probably
>renamed it as some stage changing the ip address to a name. The way
>Softsqueeze generates player ids was changed between v0.4 - v0.5. So
>it is possible that a new player for Softsqueeze was created in your
>slimserver. You should be able to see Softsqueeze in the web
>interface even when it's quit, just like you can see Squeezebox's
>after you have removed the power.

No, it's definitely *not* behaving as you claim. "Softsqueeze" does
not appear as a player, but "192.168.1.11" does.

Possibly a consequence of the way I have been using Softsqueeze. I
haven't yet modified things the way you told me in an earlier post.

Basically, my Softsqueeze (pre 0.6.3) was downloaded from its Web
site, and is being run by double-clicking on the jar file. I haven't
tried using the webstart approach that you recommend.

I run Mac OS 10.3.4.


--
Daniel Cohen

rtitmuss
2004-07-28, 13:33
Daniel,

Sorry I don't think I explained myself clearly. In the slim server web pages
go to the 'Player Settings for 192.168.1.11', here you can name your player
'Softsqueeze'. I suspect that at some stage you must have done this before,
but due to some changes in Softsqueeze the previous player had got
forgotten.

Regards,
Richard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Cohen" <danco (AT) f2s (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: [slim] server-side playback options?


> On 26/7/04 at 9:14 am +0100, Richard Titmuss wrote
> >Daniel Cohen wrote:
> >
> >>By the way, previously, if my memory serves, Softsqueeze showed up
> >>as a player, while now the player is shown as 192.168.1.11 and is
> >>visible and adjustable even when Softsqueeze has been quit.
> >
> >Softsqueeze will always have appeared as a player, you probably
> >renamed it as some stage changing the ip address to a name. The way
> >Softsqueeze generates player ids was changed between v0.4 - v0.5. So
> >it is possible that a new player for Softsqueeze was created in your
> >slimserver. You should be able to see Softsqueeze in the web
> >interface even when it's quit, just like you can see Squeezebox's
> >after you have removed the power.
>
> No, it's definitely *not* behaving as you claim. "Softsqueeze" does
> not appear as a player, but "192.168.1.11" does.
>
> Possibly a consequence of the way I have been using Softsqueeze. I
> haven't yet modified things the way you told me in an earlier post.
>
> Basically, my Softsqueeze (pre 0.6.3) was downloaded from its Web
> site, and is being run by double-clicking on the jar file. I haven't
> tried using the webstart approach that you recommend.
>
> I run Mac OS 10.3.4.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Cohen
>

rtitmuss
2004-07-28, 13:33
Daniel,

Sorry I don't think I explained myself clearly. In the slim server web pages
go to the 'Player Settings for 192.168.1.11', here you can name your player
'Softsqueeze'. I suspect that at some stage you must have done this before,
but due to some changes in Softsqueeze the previous player had got
forgotten.

Regards,
Richard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Cohen" <danco (AT) f2s (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: [slim] server-side playback options?


> On 26/7/04 at 9:14 am +0100, Richard Titmuss wrote
> >Daniel Cohen wrote:
> >
> >>By the way, previously, if my memory serves, Softsqueeze showed up
> >>as a player, while now the player is shown as 192.168.1.11 and is
> >>visible and adjustable even when Softsqueeze has been quit.
> >
> >Softsqueeze will always have appeared as a player, you probably
> >renamed it as some stage changing the ip address to a name. The way
> >Softsqueeze generates player ids was changed between v0.4 - v0.5. So
> >it is possible that a new player for Softsqueeze was created in your
> >slimserver. You should be able to see Softsqueeze in the web
> >interface even when it's quit, just like you can see Squeezebox's
> >after you have removed the power.
>
> No, it's definitely *not* behaving as you claim. "Softsqueeze" does
> not appear as a player, but "192.168.1.11" does.
>
> Possibly a consequence of the way I have been using Softsqueeze. I
> haven't yet modified things the way you told me in an earlier post.
>
> Basically, my Softsqueeze (pre 0.6.3) was downloaded from its Web
> site, and is being run by double-clicking on the jar file. I haven't
> tried using the webstart approach that you recommend.
>
> I run Mac OS 10.3.4.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Cohen
>

Daniel Cohen
2004-07-28, 14:28
On 28/7/04 at 9:33 pm +0100, Richard Titmuss wrote
>Daniel,
>
>Sorry I don't think I explained myself clearly. In the slim server web pages
>go to the 'Player Settings for 192.168.1.11', here you can name your player
>'Softsqueeze'. I suspect that at some stage you must have done this before,
>but due to some changes in Softsqueeze the previous player had got
>forgotten.
>
>Regards,
>Richard

That makes sense. I would guess you are right, and will look at this later.
--
Daniel Cohen