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hungarianhc
2009-11-03, 09:13
Hi All,

So I LOVE my new Squeezebox setup in my apartment. I have a couple Squeezebox Radios, and i'm just totally in love with these things. I'm upgrading my home server to a SheevaPlug next week, and I'm pretty excited to set this thing up :-).

In any case, I'd like to set my parents up with a Squeezebox setup this Christmas, but I'm not sure which device is best for them. As of now, they have a stereo system with speakers all over the house. The speaker wire is actually run throughout the house and it all comes in once central spot. In that spot, they currently have an Audio receiver hooked up to a CD player. The receiver then outputs to a speaker terminal, basically a hub, where all the speakers are connected to. You can push the buttons on the hub to turn the speakers on / off throughout the house. What's the best way to integrate squeezebox products into the current setup? Thanks!

hungarianhc
2009-11-03, 09:16
After some research, looks like the duet is the way to go... right? but then i just have the duet plug into the receiver... so I lose the ability to control multiple zones - the whole house will just be one "zone," but it will still work.

JeffHart
2009-11-03, 11:07
The easiest way would be go with either a Duet (Receiver), Classic or Touch connected to the reciever AUX inputs and then control the speakers from the central location.

Otherwise you'd need to place Receivers, Booms, Classics, Touch's or Radios every where you want music. The Boom and Radio are self contained, you'd need amps or powered speakers to accompany the others. You might put a switch in the rooms to allow you to switch from the central receiver to the local amp using the existing speakers.

If they don't have a server or NAS available, I'd recommend starting with the Touch when it's available and use an external USB drive for the library. If they don't have a centralized remote solution, you might consider the Controller. Then you or they can expand the system.

epoch1970
2009-11-03, 13:28
I won't ask about the age of your parents. But it looks that their setup is reliable.
I suggest a reliable server, this means either the Touch (fingers crossed !) or something like a SheevaPlug. Low power, single purpose, always-on, that will give them excellent quality of service and no second thoughts about "wasting" electricity.

Unless you can hijack the audio switch, or you can add remote-controlled on/off switches in the rooms, and have all this controlled by a plugin, I would suggest the Boom. (I hear the Radio sounds great, and it can operate on batteries, but I fear its small screen.)

I love my Boom, and my parents love their, more than the SB Classic they have also.
The Boom can add *great sound* to any room where there is no audio yet. And better, it will sync with the main system.

(For the Boom, I recommend considering using PeterW's 'contextmenu' and 'saverswitcher' plugins. Out of the box, this combination allows to use the big knob to control volume after briefly pressing it. Press again and you go back to menu navigation mode. I think this is known as "grandma mode", here and there.)

Ikabob
2009-11-03, 14:12
I think that your parents would love having their very nice stereo system hooked up with the Touch (when it comes out). I know that there will be some new bugs with it but they will be ironed out in time , I am sure. I have a similar setup as you described for your parents and I love the fact that my stereo can blast music to all parts of our home...even though each room cannot be individually volume controlled. I use the itouch with ipeng as a remote controller and I find that it really works well. So, I vote for the Touch for your parents...if you can wait.

I actually have the SB3 and I am eagerly awaiting the Touch for another area of our upstairs. The only problem I have with my system as it stands (SB3,Radio,Boom), is the sync on MSB.com is inconsistent. At times it is right on and then at other times it is not right on. But that is off the subject.
I LOVE the system,too!


Oh...P.S. I also love having these forums for assistance.Thanks.

iPhone
2009-11-03, 14:40
If it were me, I would start them with an SB Classic (SB3).

You didn't say what kind of computer and WiFi setup they have so a wired SB3 would make things easy.

hungarianhc
2009-11-03, 16:47
There's wifi throughout the entire house... How about this...

My mom is going to get an iPod Touch from my dad for Christmas. I love iPeng, and I'm sure she could get used to that interface. Could I just get a squeezebox duet receiver for her w/ iPeng? There's an iMac upstairs with all of her music. She'd be happy to install squeezecenter on there - i don't think they yet need a nas / server (although i love mine!).

I see I can get one of these for like $150 after shipping. I think this would be a good way to dip the toes in without plunking a huge investment down.

ajkidle
2009-11-03, 16:57
Keep in mind you need a Controller to configure the Receiver, it can't be done with iPeng. You can also use the net udap tool, but it's not very user friendly. If you're comfortable with nerdy computer stuff there are guides available within the forums. I don't think this tool is officially supported by Logitech, but it does work. (it did for me, at least.)

pippin
2009-11-03, 18:50
There's wifi throughout the entire house... How about this...

My mom is going to get an iPod Touch from my dad for Christmas. I love iPeng, and I'm sure she could get used to that interface. Could I just get a squeezebox duet receiver for her w/ iPeng? There's an iMac upstairs with all of her music. She'd be happy to install squeezecenter on there - i don't think they yet need a nas / server (although i love mine!).

I see I can get one of these for like $150 after shipping. I think this would be a good way to dip the toes in without plunking a huge investment down.

Do her (and yourself) a favor and use a Classic instead.
You need the controller or Net::UDAP to set up the receiver and that's not for non-techies.
Plus the display is nice and you can currently get a Classic at almost the same price as the Receiver.

hungarianhc
2009-11-03, 21:10
Do her (and yourself) a favor and use a Classic instead.
You need the controller or Net::UDAP to set up the receiver and that's not for non-techies.
Plus the display is nice and you can currently get a Classic at almost the same price as the Receiver.

So I don't mind doing the initial techy setup. I'm quite the nerd, and I'm sure I could figure it out...

So here's the question - She will likely be using iPeng to control the audio, regardless of the device I buy. Does she gain or lose anything by going with the Classic v. Receiver? Either way she will be using external speakers. Thanks! I'm really excited to get this for her.

hungarianhc
2009-11-03, 21:11
Also, in regard to price... I see the receiver can be had for like $140 or so... the classic seems way more.

Nonreality
2009-11-03, 21:13
I agree with Pippen and Iphone, the classic seems to be the most reliable. I've had one for over 2 years without any problems other than when I've created the problem. I really like it and I am really sad that it's being phased out.

pippin
2009-11-04, 00:25
So I don't mind doing the initial techy setup. I'm quite the nerd, and I'm sure I could figure it out...

So here's the question - She will likely be using iPeng to control the audio, regardless of the device I buy. Does she gain or lose anything by going with the Classic v. Receiver? Either way she will be using external speakers. Thanks! I'm really excited to get this for her.

Just the display. Although I like my Classic, the Receiver also has been very reliable. And if you wire it you are unaffected by it's (somewhat worse) WiFi reception.

ModelCitizen
2009-11-04, 01:22
I'd avoid the Receiver. Although it does not have as many problems as the Controller it is still nowhere near as reliable as the Classic (SB3). So, if you are price (and time) sensitive definitely go for the Classic. Otherwise I'd wait for the Touch (with it's lovely colour screen).

You've made the correct choice with iPeng, avoiding the troublesome Duet, so don't screw up your track record by getting a Receiver! :-)

MC

ajkidle
2009-11-04, 03:55
I understand why the Controller gets a bad rap, but why the Receiver does too is beyond me. I've been running 2 of them for over a year without issue. One wired, the other wireless. Only problems I've had have been related to weak WiFi signal, surely more a function of my junky router and placement, not the fault of the Receiver.

If your setup would benefit from a display, absolutely go for the mature design of the Classic. Do you really want to put the new Touch at your parents' place? Hopefully it will be bug free, but it's new so who knows how stable it will be (at least initially.) If you don't care about the display, the Receiver is a solid choice.