View Full Version : Squeezebox V3 vs Yamaha Naturual Sound CDC-655

2009-10-22, 21:05

I have been very happy with my Yamaha Natural Sound CDC-655 but I thought it was time to use my 2 year old Squeezebox v3 for real and file my CDs away. The player has been rock solid and has sonically been fine in my opinion. I am by no means an audiophile. I am not bashing Yamaha either.

I don't know if this stuff is just in my head but....

The Squeezebox seams to have a fuller fatter (not louder... That is different) sound than my CD player. I can hear more detail too. He is the deal.. I use EAC to rip my CDs on my Wife's Window's machine. The drive I am using to rip is a tsstcorp cd dvdw sh-s182d. I didn't use any normalizing or anything.

Maybe the Squeezebox has a newer better DAC? Actually I am using my AVR's DAC (Coax Cable) for the squeezebox so that is out of the question.
Does the Squeezebox leave the stream alone or is there some EQ done on it? I hope that it is left alone.


2009-10-24, 04:35
The SB doesn't do any EQ. Was your CD player also going through the AVR's DAC, or were you using the CD player's DAC? If the latter, then what you're hearing is probably the difference between the CDP's DAC and the AVR's DAC. If the former, I don't know. (Disclaimer: I'm not an audiophile either.)

If you haven't done so already, you should probably at least try comparing the SB3's DAC to your AVR.

2009-10-24, 05:07
some times it can be that the analog ins on most recievers are digitized anyway.

So one is listening to DA-AD-DA wich is not good .
You seldom get the full resolution as often this input is rather unsesitive to aviod clipping .

Use an spl meter and compare the volume ,before listening maybe one is louder than the other , subtle volume changes is percived as "better" by our brain. If one source is 2dB louder you won't hear that as loud but rather like "better" when you switch.

So for most receivers the obvious input is the digital one.

The only subtle manipulation sbs and the squeezebox may be guilty of is replay gain, ei equalization of volume between tracks . But if you turn of this or do not have replay gain tags it wont matter.
So the squeezebox pass bitferfect audio on its digital out.