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USAudio
2009-10-14, 20:05
I miss not being able to seek (FWD, REW) on a track with my SB3 so I plan on converting my entire collection in iTunes (Mac Mini OSX) from Apple Lossless to AIFF. When completed I plan on deleting all the Apple Lossless versions.

Before I do so, are there any gotchas I may not be aware of?

- Files are larger but I have plenty of disk space.
- AIFF retains tags just like Apple Lossless, correct?
- Other issues?

I spent many many hours ripping a good portion of my collection from CD ... am I going to regret this or should I just go for it?!

Any comments or words of wisdom appreciated.
Thanks!

cunobelinus@mac.com
2009-10-15, 00:30
This is my approach, too, for the same reason coupled with my perfect
contentment with iTunes' tagging and cataloguing, which therefore
disqualifies FLAC. AIFF retains tags, as you suggest.

I've found no issues apart from disc space, unless you intend to use a
wireless network and your signal is less than perfect, in which case
you may find you get a significant amount of dropping out depending on
how bad the signal is, and possibly how quick the machine on which
you're running SqueezeCenter is. You may find that you need to use
either bridging (Airport Extreme to Airport Express or equivalents;
then ethernet connection from Airport Express to SB - incredibly easy
to set up) or else ethernet throughout. I am now using the latter
using ethernet over mains (Homeplug) which works superbly even on very
ancient and chaotic mains wiring. iPeng control is still via Airport.

The disc space issue matters only when using iPods. I've recently got
round that by making a separate library specifically for iPod use,
consisting only of ALAC and iTunes+ AAC. It seems to work.
Squeezecenter uses the main library and now therefore shows only AIFF
and a few ALAC files I haven't got round to converting yet.

Hope that helps.

On 15 Oct 2009, at 04:05, USAudio wrote:

>
> I miss not being able to seek (FWD, REW) on a track with my SB3 so I
> plan on converting my entire collection in iTunes (OSX) from Apple
> Lossless to AIFF. When completed I plan on deleting all the Apple
> Lossless versions.
>
> Before I do so, are there any gotchas I may not be aware of?
>
> - Files are larger but I have plenty of disk space.
> - AIFF retains tags just like Apple Lossless, correct?
> - Other issues?
>
> I spent many many hours ripping a good portion of my collection from
> CD
> ... am I going to regret this or should I just go for it?!
>
> Any comments or words of wisdom appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
>
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radish
2009-10-15, 06:46
Wouldn't the default SC setup have it transcoding AIFF to FLAC? That would fix the network bandwidth issues.

cunobelinus@mac.com
2009-10-15, 07:15
Has that changed? I thought SC used to play AIFF as native.

Either way, there's no reason not to use AIFF with Squeezebox apart
from disc space (and perhaps a bit of processing power), and a good
many reasons to use it if one is running a Mac.

On 15 Oct 2009, at 14:46, radish wrote:

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> Wouldn't the default SC setup have it transcoding AIFF to FLAC? That
> would fix the network bandwidth issues.
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radish
2009-10-15, 07:56
Has that changed? I thought SC used to play AIFF as native.


It _can_ play AIFF native, but my understanding is that all lossless formats other than FLAC are transcoded to FLAC by default (can be disabled) to save bandwidth. Might be wrong about AIFF specifically, I don't have any of that file type.

USAudio
2009-10-15, 08:13
...
I've found no issues apart from disc space, unless you intend to use a
wireless network and your signal is less than perfect, in which case
you may find you get a significant amount of dropping out depending on
how bad the signal is, and possibly how quick the machine on which
you're running SqueezeCenter is. ...
Thanks for the feedback!

I've tested converting and playing some individual AIFF tracks on my SB3 and had no dropout issues, so I believe I'm fine there. Also, this Mac Mini's sole purpose in life is to be a SC Music Server so that also should not prove to be a problem either.

Sounds like I'm good to go ... now to start the lengthy conversion process ...

USAudio
2009-10-15, 11:42
I've been running the conversion process from Apple Lossless to AIFF using iTunes for awhile now and keep running into a (-208) Unknown Conversion error for certain songs.
I don't see anything obvious about the songs that would cause the error.

Anyone else experience this or have any idea on how to resolve it?
I guess I'll just have to re-rip those songs directly to AIFF from CD again ...

radish
2009-10-15, 12:38
Are there no other converters you could try? I know on Windows there are various apps which will do the job.

USAudio
2009-10-15, 14:47
I've been running the conversion process from Apple Lossless to AIFF using iTunes for awhile now and keep running into a (-208) Unknown Conversion error for certain songs.
I don't see anything obvious about the songs that would cause the error.

Anyone else experience this or have any idea on how to resolve it?
I guess I'll just have to re-rip those songs directly to AIFF from CD again ...
Well, it sometimes took multiple tries but I was finally able to re-rip the problem songs into AIFF. There may be some kind of obscure iTunes bug there but I appear to be back in business with my entire iTunes library now in AIFF.

Thanks to all for your responses.

pski
2009-10-15, 16:17
It _can_ play AIFF native, but my understanding is that all lossless formats other than FLAC are transcoded to FLAC by default (can be disabled) to save bandwidth. Might be wrong about AIFF specifically, I don't have any of that file type.

I seem to remember the inclusion of apple lossless as native in the last couple of releases.

P

radish
2009-10-15, 20:47
I seem to remember the inclusion of apple lossless as native in the last couple of releases.

P

Only on SqueezePlay based players, and event then I don't think it's done yet.

cunobelinus@mac.com
2009-10-16, 02:30
Audacity will convert ALAC to AIFF. It's free. It's also a very good
audio file editor. And cross-platform, incidentally.

<http://audacity.sourceforge.net/>


On 15 Oct 2009, at 22:47, USAudio wrote:

>
> USAudio;472723 Wrote:
>> I've been running the conversion process from Apple Lossless to AIFF
>> using iTunes for awhile now and keep running into a (-208) Unknown
>> Conversion error for certain songs.
>> I don't see anything obvious about the songs that would cause the
>> error.
>>
>> Anyone else experience this or have any idea on how to resolve it?
>> I guess I'll just have to re-rip those songs directly to AIFF from CD
>> again ...
> Well, it sometimes took multiple tries but I was finally able to re-
> rip
> the problem songs into AIFF. There may be some kind of obscure iTunes
> bug there but I appear to be back in business with my entire iTunes
> library now in AIFF.
>
> Thanks to all for your responses.
>
>
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rdb001
2009-12-08, 01:38
I seem to be having trouble with all AIFF files now that I switched to 7.4.1 on Snow Leopard. Issues range from hiss/noise on the last two seconds of tracks to no music/all noise on other tracks. The server is set to AIFF native.

rdb001
2010-01-23, 11:56
Dos anyone know why this happened? What changed in the new releases? The songs all played perfectly before upgrading my OS and to 7.4.1.

dsdreamer
2010-01-23, 13:48
There don't seem to be any bugs open at the moment that match your issue.

What happens when you disable native playback of AIFF and thereby force transcoding to FLAC?

Have you tried the 7.4.2 nightly? There could have been a fix that had the side-effect of fixing your issue.