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Jules Taplin
2004-07-03, 07:47
Hey folks.

Right then. A new version available - incorporating Peter's Fixes (thanks Peter!).

This solves (I believe), all the lock-up and dangling alienstream problems remaining, as well as a couple of others.

So... the current issue list now looks like the following:

Issue 5(a): Incorrect Separation between multiple players - I think this is just my problem. Need to get off my arse and look at it.
Issue 9: Pressing the power button aborts the play, but doesn't power the player off. This is a _LOT_ better than the old behaviour, but clearly not ideal yet.

With those caveats in mind... I pretty much think this is stable, in as far as it goes... I've spent a good while playing with it, and have failed to make it collapse. So... grab it while it's hot: - http://www.mrtickle.org

As ever... if you manage to make it fall over...don't keep it to yourself... let me know. If it's a specific stream that you have trouble with... let me know about that as well - you never know when the BBC will slip another curve-ball on us *grin*.

Best Regards,


Jules

Martin Little
2004-07-03, 12:20
Jules Taplin wrote:
> Hey folks.
>
> Right then. A new version available - incorporating Peter's Fixes
> (thanks Peter!).
<CUT>

First off, Jules and Peter, REALLY good effort on Alienstream and AlienBBC.

I've spent today getting everything installed to give it a shot, but I
seem to have hit a problem somewhere. After installing and verifying
Alienstream v3 was working, as per Peter's page, I upgraded my
slimserver to the latest nightly and installed the Alienstream and
AlienBBC plugins. Both appeared in the plugins section and I restarted
my SliMP3 for good measure.

When I started the AlienBBC plugin, it did connect and I was able to see
the headings and programmes, but when I tried to play anything, it
crashed my slimserver and made my SliMP3 go blank. Any thoughts on what
I'm not doing correctly?

Thanks
Martin

SliMP3, Fedora Core 1, slimserver latest nightly


--
martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com

Jules Taplin
2004-07-03, 13:14
*gulp* - Ok. That's not supposed to happen.

Two things to check: When it's crashed, take a look in /tmp/slimserver.log,
and see if there's anything revealing at the bottom of that.

Secondly... if it's not cooperating, stop slimserver (/etc/init.d/slimserver
stop), and run it from the command line directly. This works best if you've
su to the 'slimserver' user first. Do that, and do:

cd /usr/local/slimserver
../slimserver.pl

That way, all the debugging general nonsense that AlienBBC throws out will
turn up on that screen. And if it's not totally obvious what it means, and
what to do about it, drop me a note, and we'll work it out ;)


-- Jules

PS. It's possible you're the first SliMP3 user that's tried this... but I'd
be very surprised if that has anything to do with it ;)




----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> Jules Taplin wrote:
> > Hey folks.
> >
> > Right then. A new version available - incorporating Peter's Fixes
> > (thanks Peter!).
> <CUT>
>
> First off, Jules and Peter, REALLY good effort on Alienstream and
AlienBBC.
>
> I've spent today getting everything installed to give it a shot, but I
> seem to have hit a problem somewhere. After installing and verifying
> Alienstream v3 was working, as per Peter's page, I upgraded my
> slimserver to the latest nightly and installed the Alienstream and
> AlienBBC plugins. Both appeared in the plugins section and I restarted
> my SliMP3 for good measure.
>
> When I started the AlienBBC plugin, it did connect and I was able to see
> the headings and programmes, but when I tried to play anything, it
> crashed my slimserver and made my SliMP3 go blank. Any thoughts on what
> I'm not doing correctly?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> SliMP3, Fedora Core 1, slimserver latest nightly
>
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>

Martin Little
2004-07-04, 03:56
Jules Taplin wrote:
> *gulp* - Ok. That's not supposed to happen.
>
> Two things to check: When it's crashed, take a look in /tmp/slimserver.log,
> and see if there's anything revealing at the bottom of that.

Hi Jules

I'm replying here in the first instance, in case others have similar
problems and find this thread in the future. :-)

There were two problems I found immediately:

1. lame was not in /usr/bin but in /usr/local/bin , so I made a symbolic
link and the error went away
2. alienstream was not in /usr/local/bin , but some other random
directory, so I copied it in there and verified it worked again using
the test on Peter's page

Still the problem returned...

This is what my slimserver.log files says:

Trying to understand an 'aod' stream (/radio/aod/drama.shtml?archers)
Retrieved: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra

Going to pass: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
Going to call exec with: /usr/local/bin/alienstream,
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
mrl: 'rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra'
Buffering... [0%]
Message from Xine: Buffering... [2%]
Buffering... [4%]


It seems to freeze at this point, my SliMP3 goes blank and requires a
power cycle to get it going again and slimserver has to be restarted.

If I try to execute the command ./alienstream
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra from the command
line, I do get the same result. Does that mean I haven't properly
installed alienstream?


> Secondly... if it's not cooperating, stop slimserver (/etc/init.d/slimserver
> stop), and run it from the command line directly. This works best if you've
> su to the 'slimserver' user first. Do that, and do:
>
> cd /usr/local/slimserver
> ./slimserver.pl
>
> That way, all the debugging general nonsense that AlienBBC throws out will
> turn up on that screen. And if it's not totally obvious what it means, and
> what to do about it, drop me a note, and we'll work it out ;)
>
> -- Jules
>
> PS. It's possible you're the first SliMP3 user that's tried this... but I'd
> be very surprised if that has anything to do with it ;)

Always good to be bleeding edge. ;-)

Thanks for your help
Martin

>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:20 PM
> Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)
>
>
>
>>Jules Taplin wrote:
>>
>>>Hey folks.
>>>
>>>Right then. A new version available - incorporating Peter's Fixes
>>>(thanks Peter!).
>>
>><CUT>
>>
>>First off, Jules and Peter, REALLY good effort on Alienstream and
>
> AlienBBC.
>
>>I've spent today getting everything installed to give it a shot, but I
>>seem to have hit a problem somewhere. After installing and verifying
>>Alienstream v3 was working, as per Peter's page, I upgraded my
>>slimserver to the latest nightly and installed the Alienstream and
>>AlienBBC plugins. Both appeared in the plugins section and I restarted
>>my SliMP3 for good measure.
>>
>>When I started the AlienBBC plugin, it did connect and I was able to see
>>the headings and programmes, but when I tried to play anything, it
>>crashed my slimserver and made my SliMP3 go blank. Any thoughts on what
>>I'm not doing correctly?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Martin
>>
>>SliMP3, Fedora Core 1, slimserver latest nightly
>>
>>
>>--
>>martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>>

Martin Little
2004-07-04, 05:01
Martin Little wrote:
> Jules Taplin wrote:
>
>> *gulp* - Ok. That's not supposed to happen.
>>
>> Two things to check: When it's crashed, take a look in
>> /tmp/slimserver.log,
>> and see if there's anything revealing at the bottom of that.
>
>
> Hi Jules
>
> I'm replying here in the first instance, in case others have similar
> problems and find this thread in the future. :-)
>
> There were two problems I found immediately:
>
> 1. lame was not in /usr/bin but in /usr/local/bin , so I made a symbolic
> link and the error went away
> 2. alienstream was not in /usr/local/bin , but some other random
> directory, so I copied it in there and verified it worked again using
> the test on Peter's page
>
> Still the problem returned...
>
> This is what my slimserver.log files says:
>
> Trying to understand an 'aod' stream (/radio/aod/drama.shtml?archers)
> Retrieved: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
>
> Going to pass: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
> Going to call exec with: /usr/local/bin/alienstream,
> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
> mrl: 'rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra'
> Buffering... [0%]
> Message from Xine: Buffering... [2%]
> Buffering... [4%]
>
>
> It seems to freeze at this point, my SliMP3 goes blank and requires a
> power cycle to get it going again and slimserver has to be restarted.
>
> If I try to execute the command ./alienstream
> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra from the command
> line, I do get the same result. Does that mean I haven't properly
> installed alienstream?

As an update, I thought I should check out whther just Alienstream
worked. I saved the 'program stream' from http://www.npr.org/ and then
restarted my slimserver. Trying to listen to it, my SliMP3 goes to
Connecting... and then blanks, with the same type of error as above.
Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks
Martin

--
martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com

Dave Scott
2004-07-04, 05:07
On 4 Jul 2004, at 18:56, Martin Little wrote:

>
> mrl: 'rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra'
> Buffering... [0%]
> Message from Xine: Buffering... [2%]
> Buffering... [4%]
>
>
> It seems to freeze at this point, my SliMP3 goes blank and requires a
> power cycle to get it going again and slimserver has to be restarted.
>
> If I try to execute the command ./alienstream
> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra from the
> command line, I do get the same result. Does that mean I haven't
> properly installed alienstream?
>

Interesting - so I am getting the same error as well though each time I
try the command I seem to get a bit further

Running from the command line:

../alienstream
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra

mrl:
'rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/
r4_dsat_g2.ra'
Buffering... [0%]
Message from Xine: Buffering... [2%]
Buffering... [4%]
Buffering... [6%]
Buffering... [8%]
Buffering... [10%]
Buffering... [12%]
Buffering... [16%]
Buffering... [18%]
Buffering... [20%]
Buffering... [22%]
Buffering... [24%]
Buffering... [26%]
Buffering... [30%]
Buffering... [32%]
Buffering... [34%]
Buffering... [36%]
Buffering... [38%]

Taken approx 4 minutes to get to this stage

Slimp3 / Slimserver 5.2 / MAC OSX 10.3.4

Haven't been able to play the stream yet - I also get the lock up
problems, though a re-start of the computer fixes that

Definite progress but not too sure what wrong at this stage ..

Cheers

Dave Scott

Jules Taplin
2004-07-04, 08:02
Ok. This is a bit of a worry. What you're saying... I'd have expected that
to work. Normally... if it gets to buffering, it's all going to complete.

This is a long shot... but can you guys try using SoftSqueeze as the player,
rather than a slimp3? It takes quite a while to buffer enough RA for the
player to start, and I wonder if the SliMP3's get bored of waiting, so to
speak.

Failing that... we need to dig a little further, but I'm not sure where to
direct efforts at the moment.

-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> Martin Little wrote:
>> Jules Taplin wrote:
>>
>>> *gulp* - Ok. That's not supposed to happen.
>>>
>>> Two things to check: When it's crashed, take a look in
>>> /tmp/slimserver.log,
>>> and see if there's anything revealing at the bottom of that.
>>
>>
>> Hi Jules
>>
>> I'm replying here in the first instance, in case others have similar
>> problems and find this thread in the future. :-)
>>
>> There were two problems I found immediately:
>>
>> 1. lame was not in /usr/bin but in /usr/local/bin , so I made a symbolic
>> link and the error went away
>> 2. alienstream was not in /usr/local/bin , but some other random
>> directory, so I copied it in there and verified it worked again using the
>> test on Peter's page
>>
>> Still the problem returned...
>>
>> This is what my slimserver.log files says:
>>
>> Trying to understand an 'aod' stream (/radio/aod/drama.shtml?archers)
>> Retrieved: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
>>
>> Going to pass: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
>> Going to call exec with: /usr/local/bin/alienstream,
>> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra
>> mrl: 'rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra'
>> Buffering... [0%]
>> Message from Xine: Buffering... [2%]
>> Buffering... [4%]
>>
>>
>> It seems to freeze at this point, my SliMP3 goes blank and requires a
>> power cycle to get it going again and slimserver has to be restarted.
>>
>> If I try to execute the command ./alienstream
>> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/archers/archers_friday.ra from the command
>> line, I do get the same result. Does that mean I haven't properly
>> installed alienstream?
>
> As an update, I thought I should check out whther just Alienstream worked.
> I saved the 'program stream' from http://www.npr.org/ and then restarted
> my slimserver. Trying to listen to it, my SliMP3 goes to Connecting...
> and then blanks, with the same type of error as above. Anyone got any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>

Dave Scott
2004-07-04, 08:37
On 4 Jul 2004, at 23:02, Jules Taplin wrote:

> Ok. This is a bit of a worry. What you're saying... I'd have expected
> that
> to work. Normally... if it gets to buffering, it's all going to
> complete.
>
> This is a long shot... but can you guys try using SoftSqueeze as the
> player,
> rather than a slimp3? It takes quite a while to buffer enough RA for
> the
> player to start, and I wonder if the SliMP3's get bored of waiting, so
> to
> speak.
>

Hmmm - not even attempting to use Slimp3 at the moment - solely trying
from the command line

Started the Radio4 stream again - after 2.5 hours up to 68% :-)

Dave S

Jules Taplin
2004-07-04, 10:54
Ah. Ok.

Curious, though.

What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?


-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scott" <kiwidave (AT) starhub (DOT) net.sg>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


>
> On 4 Jul 2004, at 23:02, Jules Taplin wrote:
>
> > Ok. This is a bit of a worry. What you're saying... I'd have expected
> > that
> > to work. Normally... if it gets to buffering, it's all going to
> > complete.
> >
> > This is a long shot... but can you guys try using SoftSqueeze as the
> > player,
> > rather than a slimp3? It takes quite a while to buffer enough RA for
> > the
> > player to start, and I wonder if the SliMP3's get bored of waiting, so
> > to
> > speak.
> >
>
> Hmmm - not even attempting to use Slimp3 at the moment - solely trying
> from the command line
>
> Started the Radio4 stream again - after 2.5 hours up to 68% :-)
>
> Dave S
>
>

Dave Scott
2004-07-04, 14:13
On 5 Jul 2004, at 1:54, Jules Taplin wrote:

> Ah. Ok.
>
> Curious, though.
>
> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?
>
>
> -- Jules
>

Should be familiar:

rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra

Cheers

Dave S

Martin Little
2004-07-04, 14:14
Jules Taplin wrote:
> Ah. Ok.
>
> Curious, though.
>
> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?

Hi Jules

I've tried a variety of streams from the BBC site, and all have had the same problem. Before the
football I started a stream from the command line (./alienstream <URL>) and I've just checked now,
and it's managed to buffer 52% of the stream. Is there anything you can think of for us to check?

Cheers
Martin

--
martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com

Jules Taplin
2004-07-04, 15:31
Hmmm. I wonder.

I suspect the next obvious trick is to try to ascertain whether xine-lib is
working correctly for you.

Install xine itself.. and try doing a

'xine --verbose <stream name>'. I just tried it on the one Linux box in the
house that runs X - and it worked as I'd expect.

If that works... then it's probably something to do with AlienStream - if it
doesn't, then we're probably talking about xine-lib not being right somehow.


-- Jules



----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:14 PM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> Jules Taplin wrote:
>> Ah. Ok.
>>
>> Curious, though.
>>
>> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?
>
> Hi Jules
>
> I've tried a variety of streams from the BBC site, and all have had the
> same problem. Before the football I started a stream from the command
> line (./alienstream <URL>) and I've just checked now, and it's managed to
> buffer 52% of the stream. Is there anything you can think of for us to
> check?
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>

Jules Taplin
2004-07-04, 15:31
Hmmm. I wonder.

I suspect the next obvious trick is to try to ascertain whether xine-lib is
working correctly for you.

Install xine itself.. and try doing a

'xine --verbose <stream name>'. I just tried it on the one Linux box in the
house that runs X - and it worked as I'd expect.

If that works... then it's probably something to do with AlienStream - if it
doesn't, then we're probably talking about xine-lib not being right somehow.


-- Jules



----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:14 PM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> Jules Taplin wrote:
>> Ah. Ok.
>>
>> Curious, though.
>>
>> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?
>
> Hi Jules
>
> I've tried a variety of streams from the BBC site, and all have had the
> same problem. Before the football I started a stream from the command
> line (./alienstream <URL>) and I've just checked now, and it's managed to
> buffer 52% of the stream. Is there anything you can think of for us to
> check?
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>

Martin Little
2004-07-04, 16:40
Jules Taplin wrote:
> Hmmm. I wonder.
>
> I suspect the next obvious trick is to try to ascertain whether xine-lib
> is working correctly for you.
>
> Install xine itself.. and try doing a
>
> 'xine --verbose <stream name>'. I just tried it on the one Linux box in
> the house that runs X - and it worked as I'd expect.
>
> If that works... then it's probably something to do with AlienStream -
> if it doesn't, then we're probably talking about xine-lib not being
> right somehow.

OK, it looks like a xine problem. When I try:

xine --verbose
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra


I get a load of positive looking messages (plugins found) and then this:

gui_xine_open_and_play():
mrl:
'rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra',
sub 'NONE',
start_pos 0, start_time 0, av_offset 0, spu_offset 0.
xine: found input plugin : rtsp streaming input plugin
xine: found demuxer plugin: RealMedia file demux plugin
audio_decoder: no plugin available to handle 'RealAudio COOK'
av_offset=0 pts
spu_offset=0 pts

---------------------- (ERROR) ----------------------
: cook.so.6.0
------------------ (END OF ERROR) -------------------


---------------------- (ERROR) ----------------------
: cook.so.6.0
------------------ (END OF ERROR) -------------------


So, it looks like xine does not have the RealAudio COOK codec available.
Googling for it points quite a lot towards installing mplayer.
Jules, do you have that already?

Looks like we're getting somewhere now. :-D

Martin

>
> -- Jules
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:14 PM
> Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)
>
>
>> Jules Taplin wrote:
>>
>>> Ah. Ok.
>>>
>>> Curious, though.
>>>
>>> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?
>>
>>
>> Hi Jules
>>
>> I've tried a variety of streams from the BBC site, and all have had
>> the same problem. Before the football I started a stream from the
>> command line (./alienstream <URL>) and I've just checked now, and it's
>> managed to buffer 52% of the stream. Is there anything you can think
>> of for us to check?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
>> --
>> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>>

Dave Scott
2004-07-04, 18:13
On 5 Jul 2004, at 7:40, Martin Little wrote:

> Jules Taplin wrote:
>> Hmmm. I wonder.
>> I suspect the next obvious trick is to try to ascertain whether
>> xine-lib is working correctly for you.
>> Install xine itself.. and try doing a
>> 'xine --verbose <stream name>'. I just tried it on the one Linux box
>> in the house that runs X - and it worked as I'd expect.
>> If that works... then it's probably something to do with AlienStream
>> - if it doesn't, then we're probably talking about xine-lib not being
>> right somehow.
>
> OK, it looks like a xine problem. When I try:
>
> xine --verbose
> rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra
>
>
> I get a load of positive looking messages (plugins found) and then
> this:
>
> gui_xine_open_and_play():
> mrl:
> 'rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/
> r4_dsat_g2.ra',
> sub 'NONE',
> start_pos 0, start_time 0, av_offset 0, spu_offset 0.
> xine: found input plugin : rtsp streaming input plugin
> xine: found demuxer plugin: RealMedia file demux plugin
> audio_decoder: no plugin available to handle 'RealAudio COOK'
> av_offset=0 pts
> spu_offset=0 pts
>
> ---------------------- (ERROR) ----------------------
> : cook.so.6.0
> ------------------ (END OF ERROR) -------------------
>
>
> ---------------------- (ERROR) ----------------------
> : cook.so.6.0
> ------------------ (END OF ERROR) -------------------
>
>
> So, it looks like xine does not have the RealAudio COOK codec
> available. Googling for it points quite a lot towards installing
> mplayer. Jules, do you have that already?
>
> Looks like we're getting somewhere now. :-D
>
> Martin
>
>> -- Jules
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Little"
>> <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:14 PM
>> Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)
>>> Jules Taplin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ah. Ok.
>>>>
>>>> Curious, though.
>>>>
>>>> What's the address of the stream you're trying to make cooperate?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jules
>>>
>>> I've tried a variety of streams from the BBC site, and all have had
>>> the same problem. Before the football I started a stream from the
>>> command line (./alienstream <URL>) and I've just checked now, and
>>> it's managed to buffer 52% of the stream. Is there anything you can
>>> think of for us to check?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> --
>>> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>>>

waldy
2004-07-05, 04:38
Dave,

What version of realplayer codecs are you running?

Not sure if this will help. I was at the same position as you a while back.
If I ran the stream directly with alienstream & getting similar response to
you. I Installed realplayer 8 with rv9 codecs & made sure I could play the
stream in real player. Then make sure that xine-lib points to your real
audio codecs. Worked for me.

regards

Waldy

Martin Little
2004-07-05, 05:13
waldy wrote:
> Dave,
>
> What version of realplayer codecs are you running?
>
> Not sure if this will help. I was at the same position as you a while back.
> If I ran the stream directly with alienstream & getting similar response to
> you. I Installed realplayer 8 with rv9 codecs & made sure I could play the
> stream in real player. Then make sure that xine-lib points to your real
> audio codecs. Worked for me.

Hi Waldy

I'm having the same problems as Dave. Your solution sounds like a decent one, and was next on my
list when I had a minute to play. How do you make xine-lib point to the RP codecs?

Thanks
Martin

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waldy
2004-07-05, 06:33
Hi Martin,

I installed xine-ui, the frontend for xine-lib, you can change it easily
on the configure button.
Useful for checking wether xine can play the stream your after anyway.

regards Waldy



"Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:40E94605.8030200 (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com...
> waldy wrote:
> > Dave,
> >
> > What version of realplayer codecs are you running?
> >
> > Not sure if this will help. I was at the same position as you a while
back.
> > If I ran the stream directly with alienstream & getting similar response
to
> > you. I Installed realplayer 8 with rv9 codecs & made sure I could play
the
> > stream in real player. Then make sure that xine-lib points to your real
> > audio codecs. Worked for me.
>
> Hi Waldy
>
> I'm having the same problems as Dave. Your solution sounds like a decent
one, and was next on my
> list when I had a minute to play. How do you make xine-lib point to the
RP codecs?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com

Dave Scott
2004-07-05, 14:16
On 5 Jul 2004, at 9:13, Dave Scott wrote:

Interesting point is that libxine package installed, but I don't have
xine-ui, as fink package is lagging behind, so cannot try Jules
suggestion ..

but see a .xine directory in my home directory, where Alienstream is -
and in that directory is a catalog.cache file

also see a tmp.wav file & a file called XINE_WAVE_OUTPUT=tmp.wav (
these never increase in size, ie stay at zero bytes )

In the xine-library installation there is a plugin directory .. and in
the plugin directory is:

xineplug_decode_real_audio.so
xineplug+decode_real.so

So - do I still need additional codecs?

Cheers

Dave S

Martin Little
2004-07-13, 18:03
waldy wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> I installed xine-ui, the frontend for xine-lib, you can change it easily
> on the configure button.
> Useful for checking wether xine can play the stream your after anyway.

Sorry for the slow follow-up on this. I finally had time to play with this some more, including
updating my AlienStream plugin. After installing RealPlayer for Linux, I am now able to use
AlienBBC successfully some of the time. Normally I can listen to one programme, and then when I
change to another it kills my server. So far, I haven't caught anything in the log to work on with
that...

Jules & Peter -- this is some *seriously* nice work. You both deserve medals!

Cheers
Martin

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Martin Little
2004-07-14, 01:45
Martin Little wrote:
> waldy wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> I installed xine-ui, the frontend for xine-lib, you can change it
>> easily
>> on the configure button.
>> Useful for checking wether xine can play the stream your after anyway.
>
>
> Sorry for the slow follow-up on this. I finally had time to play with
> this some more, including updating my AlienStream plugin. After
> installing RealPlayer for Linux, I am now able to use AlienBBC
> successfully some of the time. Normally I can listen to one programme,
> and then when I change to another it kills my server. So far, I haven't
> caught anything in the log to work on with that...

Once again replying to my own mail... These restarts may be due to user error. ;-) After I had
listened to a stream, I was simply browsing to another AlienBBC stream, which crashed my slimserver
(and SliMP3). If, however, I press the on/off buttom, which seems to stop the stream, I can then
browse to another AlienBBC stream and play it with no problems. Is this in the user documentation
and I missed it, or is this a SliMP3 'featurette'?

Martin

--
martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com

Jules Taplin
2004-07-14, 05:57
Right.

If I get some time today, I'll package and release a new version of
AlienBBC. It's basically a re-sync with Peter's new version of AlienStream,
but it also has (not very well tested) fixes for retaining individual
contexts for different players.

Certainly for me... you can move safely between streams without the player
falling over. I'm not so sure about it's behaviour when streams end, however
;)


-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:03 AM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> waldy wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> I installed xine-ui, the frontend for xine-lib, you can change it
>> easily
>> on the configure button.
>> Useful for checking wether xine can play the stream your after anyway.
>
> Sorry for the slow follow-up on this. I finally had time to play with
> this some more, including updating my AlienStream plugin. After
> installing RealPlayer for Linux, I am now able to use AlienBBC
> successfully some of the time. Normally I can listen to one programme,
> and then when I change to another it kills my server. So far, I haven't
> caught anything in the log to work on with that...
>
> Jules & Peter -- this is some *seriously* nice work. You both deserve
> medals!
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>

Jules Taplin
2004-07-14, 06:02
Hmmm. Sounds like bad clean-up to me...

If I can get the new version out tonight... give that one a go - thanks
mostly to Peter's work... the clean-up for killing streams is rather better
now.


-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Little" <lists (AT) martinlittle (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [slim] Yet Another AlienBBC release (v0.5)


> Martin Little wrote:
>> waldy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> I installed xine-ui, the frontend for xine-lib, you can change it
>>> easily
>>> on the configure button.
>>> Useful for checking wether xine can play the stream your after anyway.
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the slow follow-up on this. I finally had time to play with
>> this some more, including updating my AlienStream plugin. After
>> installing RealPlayer for Linux, I am now able to use AlienBBC
>> successfully some of the time. Normally I can listen to one programme,
>> and then when I change to another it kills my server. So far, I haven't
>> caught anything in the log to work on with that...
>
> Once again replying to my own mail... These restarts may be due to user
> error. ;-) After I had listened to a stream, I was simply browsing to
> another AlienBBC stream, which crashed my slimserver (and SliMP3). If,
> however, I press the on/off buttom, which seems to stop the stream, I can
> then browse to another AlienBBC stream and play it with no problems. Is
> this in the user documentation and I missed it, or is this a SliMP3
> 'featurette'?
>
> Martin
>
> --
> martinlittle.com | mobitopia.com
>