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tosi
2009-10-05, 16:53
Just installed the Facebook App - what's the point? Doesn't allow sharing the song (understandable), doesn't play a low-res version in the background, doesn't do much except put a few links to SB ads around the small line that actually says what's playing now.. am I missing the point or is there a future enhancement planned for this?

ajkidle
2009-10-05, 17:19
Not only that, but there doesn't seem to be support for multiple accounts. My wife and I are both active Squeezebox users (iPeng iPhone), but we can only access and post to one of our pages (currently mine.) I hope I'm just missing a setting somewhere, as this seems weird.

andyg
2009-10-05, 17:45
Facebook asked us to remove support for multiple accounts, sorry. :(

ajkidle
2009-10-05, 17:56
Stupid Facebook.

Nice work on 7.4, btw. Took a little setup work to get everything tweaked the way I like, but was generally smooth and we're rocking out.

pablolie
2009-10-05, 19:35
Facebook asked us to remove support for multiple accounts, sorry. :(

Wow thy can do that? I thought they were nice and as long as you used their API you could do anything you wanted. This reduces my confidence in their ongoing success...

mherger
2009-10-05, 21:56
> Stupid Facebook.

Is this the real answer to the initial question? :-)

erland
2009-10-05, 22:33
Just installed the Facebook App - what's the point? Doesn't allow sharing the song (understandable), doesn't play a low-res version in the background, doesn't do much except put a few links to SB ads around the small line that actually says what's playing now.. am I missing the point or is there a future enhancement planned for this?

What would you like it to do ?
I'm sure Logitech is open for ideas how to make it better.

arztde
2009-10-05, 23:39
What would you like it to do ?
I'm sure Logitech is open for ideas how to make it better.

Add a feature that users can change easy on the squeezecenterserver (i am confused with those namechanges) change the account and i think more important is to give access to a local picture libary... i do not wish to upload pictures online.
As i do not see much sense in a facebook or flickerl inside a music player.
Ok if there are interconection possibilites possible with a multimediaplayer (for xample xtreamer - make a cooperation) or squeeze is able to stream pictures to LCD orTV and make a reasonable Slideshow, that you can use different LCDs like a photoframe... for different places inside an appartment or the house - such can be some nice effect but is the squeeze a musicplayer i first?
To sit on a chair 6 m away from the radio or the touch to see a picture makes not much sense.
It makes sense to give some extra euros and to buy a Classic than a receiver if you own a duet oruse SlimControl or Ipeng. I own a Duet but i use Slimcontrol and the 2 Classic, because i can see and read the Display from 6 m distance? I can not understand that Logitech cancel to sell the classic in future. Is there a new young manager?

At the moment i see for PDA or Pocket PC as Partner TelGen. If i look to their page i can read the following:

Please note that due to a decline in sales, TelCanto will no longer be sold and supported after the end of 2009.

In a lot of things i get slowly confused.

autopilot
2009-10-06, 02:02
It works best on the Touch with its bigger screen, makes a good screen saver, if your into that kind of thing. And many people are.

pippin
2009-10-06, 02:04
It works best on the Touch with its bigger screen, makes a good screen saver, if your into that kind of thing. And many people are.

And it makes for a nice, popular logo on the box.

ModelCitizen
2009-10-06, 02:15
Just installed the Facebook App - what's the point? Doesn't allow sharing the song (understandable), doesn't play a low-res version in the background, doesn't do much except put a few links to SB ads around the small line that actually says what's playing now.. am I missing the point or is there a future enhancement planned for this?
If you view the entry the App makes on Facebook via the iPhone Facebook App it does not even say what music is playing. It just mentions that you are playing music on your Logitech Squeezebox... and has a nice little picture of the device.

MC

arztde
2009-10-06, 02:36
And it makes for a nice, popular logo on the box.

It seems from this point of view that Logitech have the main profit inside this application. Free advertisement for the Squeeze arround the world.

The man is going to work and wife or kids playing with the Squeezebox. His boss look inside the facebook and thinks ohhh he do not work... just enjoy and listen music... What worth is facebook? if they deny to guaranty multible accounts. And there is no use of personality..
At least a security risk of personality for personality?

toby10
2009-10-06, 02:38
........As i do not see much sense in a facebook or flickerl inside a music player.........

Gimmicks and marketing and adding to the feature list. Just about every electronic device I own has features I'll never use. But, obviously, someone does use these features and many are drawn to devices with long feature lists.

I've not messed with the Facebook feature, but I have had some fun using the Flickr feature. Pick a subject and randomly see pics of that subject. As for the "music" tie in, with two button presses Flickr will display random images of the currently playing band/artist. See some candid shots of obscure artists performing live, etc...

Gimmicky? Sure. Will many people use it? Probably. Will everyone use it or care? No. Will Logitech up their sales of these units with such gimmicky features? You bet! :)

The good thing is that these marketing gimmicks are well buried features (must enable them) that will not intrude on anyone's enjoyment of music for those that don't wish to be bothered with such added features. :)

arztde
2009-10-06, 03:46
Gimmicky? Sure. Will many people use it? Probably. Will everyone use it or care? No. Will Logitech up their sales of these units with such gimmicky features? You bet! :)

The good thing is that these marketing gimmicks are well buried features (must enable them) that will not intrude on anyone's enjoyment of music for those that don't wish to be bothered with such added features. :)

Anyways myrespond was to erlands question about any ideas. The idea is to make it possible to push the sucked pictures straigt forward to TV or LCD Screen.
It is like an idea how a newsserver works. Somehow. Suck and push... can mean to push it to a network mediastreamer, from there to TV. And not only to the little touch screen.
Was my idea.

toby10
2009-10-06, 04:24
Anyways myrespond was to erlands question about any ideas. The idea is to make it possible to push the sucked pictures straigt forward to TV or LCD Screen.
It is like an idea how a newsserver works. Somehow. Suck and push... can mean to push it to a network mediastreamer, from there to TV. And not only to the little touch screen.
Was my idea.

Yes, I was just addressing the "I don't see the sense in Facebook or Flickr on a music device" comment. And again, MANY do agree with you! :)

arztde
2009-10-06, 05:04
Yes, I was just addressing the "I don't see the sense in Facebook or Flickr on a music device" comment. And again, MANY do agree with you! :)

I just did post a comment inside the "Rude" thread.
I never saw before inside the Forum of Logitech that so much people concern. But anways maybee because of language skills of mine i could not see rude comments. There are more in my feeling concerns about the direction. I hope Logitech managment take serious words with the responsible managers and find a way to recognize the concerns because these are exact the people that did help not less to make a good product.

Maybee i hope they ask the old founder of slimdevices who did leave the company not so long away about his opinion, what to do. If he speaks serious inside the forums about his thinking the peacful way can go on. Otherwize i see for a long time the community spreads into different ways.

ddewey
2009-10-06, 07:04
Quoting autopilot (autopilot.3zmnkn1254819841 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com):

>
> It works best on the Touch with its bigger screen, makes a good screen
> saver, if your into that kind of thing. And many people are.

Yep. It was the first thing I installed, exactly for that reason.
It's now my default screensaver on the Controller, displaying family
pics from my FB account. I enjoy it, but I am an active Facebook
user. If you aren't it's not gonna have any value to you.

peterw
2009-10-06, 07:14
What would you like it to do ?
I'm sure Logitech is open for ideas how to make it better.

Open source it so 3rd parties can improve it in ways that Logitech itself cannot?

Btw, did Facebook allege that the app violated some written FB guideline or rule? Does FB not understand that MySB accounts tend to be "household" accounts?

thing-fish
2009-10-07, 09:38
Facebook asked us to remove support for multiple accounts, sorry. :(

Can apps be made player-specific instead of global for all players connecting to a single mysqueezebox account? Or actually how about this: I have three squeezeboxes in the house. Can each one of those have separate mysqueezebox accounts (and thus separate app settings), but still connect to one local server?

Speaking in the abstract regarding social networks, in a multi-member household you're going to have multiple social network accounts. In my house we have three FB users and two Flickr users, each with their own set of contacts and shared items. While I think it would be lovely to have multiple accounts on one player, I should at least be able to make the player most often used by my wife display her Facebook and Flickr stuff while the player most used by me displays my Facebook and Flickr stuff.

Also regarding "what's the point?," I second ddewey (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=467679&postcount=17) and his sentiment that if you're an active Facebook user then you like this function and if you're not then it is of no use to you. Recognize that FB has more than 300 million active users (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics), and they are accustomed to being able to interact with FB from all kinds of devices from their phones to their XBoxes. It's a natural fit when you have a display screen. Indeed even with my SB3, the first "news feed" in my RSS screen saver is the status of my facebook friends. And note to Andy: the second feed is my wife's friends and the third is my son's friends.

toby10
2009-10-07, 09:55
Can apps be made player-specific instead of global for all players connecting to a single mysqueezebox account? .............

............. and his sentiment that if you're an active Facebook user then you like this function and if you're not then it is of no use to you. Recognize that FB has more than 300 million active users......

Yes, on MySB.com each App is installed on any/all registered players. But within each App's "configure" screen is a simple pull down menu next to each player to Enable or Disable per player.

And imagine just one million Facebook users mentioning their Facebook enabled SB Radio on their Facebook pages. Talk about free advertising! :)

thing-fish
2009-10-07, 10:05
Yes, on MySB.com each App is installed on any/all registered players. But within each App's "configure" screen is a simple pull down menu next to each player to Enable or Disable per player.

Rather than enable or disable a single-credentialed app what I'm looking for is that each player could use the app with its own credentials. The Last.fm Audioscrobbler is a perfect, already-existing example of this within the Squeezebox sever: you *can* use one set of credentials for all players, but you can also have each player scrobble to a different account (which is what how we use it in my family)

toby10
2009-10-07, 10:51
Rather than enable or disable a single-credentialed app what I'm looking for is that each player could use the app with its own credentials. The Last.fm Audioscrobbler is a perfect, already-existing example of this within the Squeezebox sever: you *can* use one set of credentials for all players, but you can also have each player scrobble to a different account (which is what how we use it in my family)

That I don't know. Another alternative is to have a separate MySB account for each player when each player is connected independently and directly to MySB. Those players can still all connect to one instance of SBS, but then any use of Music Services or scrobbling would be associated with the MySB account as set forth in SBS > Settings > MySB.com login info.

At least that's how I presume it would work. :)

Punga
2009-10-07, 12:58
Hi,


Facebook asked us to remove support for multiple accounts, sorry. :(

That's really sad, although I don't see Facebook's problem if one Squeezebox-player would be chained to just one account. This way e.g. the bathroom SB Radio could be chained to my girlfriend's account and the kitchen's SB Boom to mine. But having this limited to one account only all my SB's can only be chained to one simple account... Not very fancy at all :(

Cheers
Punga

Punga
2009-10-08, 14:21
I've started a cause on Facebook about making Facebook revoke their decision to limit a SqueezeBox to one Facebook account only!(hope this is the right way to run a petition on Facebook?!).

Please join the cause here:
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/369472/88063032?m=7f359208

Cheers
Punga