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Phillip Kerman
2004-07-01, 11:27
>> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Lorenzo Mazzucco wrote:
>
> > Do you think there will be a solution for listening AAC
> with DRM on the
> > Squeezebox ?
>
> The problem is that, fundamentally, the entire point of DRM
> is to make
> sure that you can't do that. Can it be hacked around? Yes.
> But those
> hacks aren't durable -- Apple will change iTunes to break them
> intentionally -- and they're of dubious legality in our DMCA world.
>
> If you want to do interesting things with your music, don't
> buy it from
> Apple.
>
> --
> Mike Kozlowski
> http://www.klio.org/mlk/
>

I understand it isn't an easy thing to overcome this... but I don't believe
you're breaking any license by streaming music files you own from the same
computer that has the license. You can play them over iTunes afterall.


Thanks,
Phillip

kdf
2004-07-01, 11:31
Quoting Phillip Kerman <lists (AT) phillipkerman (DOT) com>:

> >> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Lorenzo Mazzucco wrote:
> >
> > > Do you think there will be a solution for listening AAC
> > with DRM on the
> > > Squeezebox ?
> >
> > The problem is that, fundamentally, the entire point of DRM
> > is to make
> > sure that you can't do that. Can it be hacked around? Yes.
> > But those
> > hacks aren't durable -- Apple will change iTunes to break them
> > intentionally -- and they're of dubious legality in our DMCA world.
> >
> > If you want to do interesting things with your music, don't
> > buy it from
> > Apple.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Kozlowski
> > http://www.klio.org/mlk/
> >
>
> I understand it isn't an easy thing to overcome this... but I don't believe
> you're breaking any license by streaming music files you own from the same
> computer that has the license. You can play them over iTunes afterall.
>
you may not be breaking license, but you ARE asking apple to let you use some
thing that didn't bring them money to play something that could bring them money
so long as you are only able to play it on things that bring them money. Just
because they are named after Gwenyth's daughter, doesnt mean they arent just as
greedy as a certain Redmond company that also deserves to die.
-kdf

Mike Kozlowski
2004-07-01, 12:28
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Phillip Kerman wrote:

>> sure that you can't do that. Can it be hacked around? Yes.
>> But those
>> hacks aren't durable -- Apple will change iTunes to break them
>> intentionally -- and they're of dubious legality in our DMCA world.
>
> I understand it isn't an easy thing to overcome this... but I don't believe
> you're breaking any license by streaming music files you own from the same
> computer that has the license. You can play them over iTunes afterall.

Circumventing copy protection schemes is illegal under the DMCA, even if
you don't do anything illegal with that circumvention, which is why DeCSS
is under such a legal cloud.

--
Mike Kozlowski
http://www.klio.org/mlk/

pbox
2004-07-01, 14:40
> Quoting Phillip Kerman <lists (AT) phillipkerman (DOT) com>:
>
>> >> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Lorenzo Mazzucco wrote:
>> >
>> > > Do you think there will be a solution for listening AAC
>> > with DRM on the
>> > > Squeezebox ?
>> >
>> > The problem is that, fundamentally, the entire point of DRM
>> > is to make
>> > sure that you can't do that. Can it be hacked around? Yes.
>> > But those
>> > hacks aren't durable -- Apple will change iTunes to break them
>> > intentionally -- and they're of dubious legality in our DMCA world.
>> >
>> > If you want to do interesting things with your music, don't
>> > buy it from
>> > Apple.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mike Kozlowski
>> > http://www.klio.org/mlk/
>> >
>>
>> I understand it isn't an easy thing to overcome this... but I don't
>> believe
>> you're breaking any license by streaming music files you own from the
>> same
>> computer that has the license. You can play them over iTunes afterall.
>>
> you may not be breaking license, but you ARE asking apple to let you use
> some
> thing that didn't bring them money to play something that could bring them
> money
> so long as you are only able to play it on things that bring them money.
> Just
> because they are named after Gwenyth's daughter, doesnt mean they arent
> just as
> greedy as a certain Redmond company that also deserves to die.
> -kdf

There is always hymn: http://hymn-project.org/
It worked for me. All my iTunes Music Store purchases are now .m4a
externsions instead of .m4p without loss of quality of tags...