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Phillip Kerman
2004-06-30, 21:11
Hmm. Personally, I've been borrowing a lot from the library. Arguably,
these CDs are ones I might not have otherwise purchased. My only
rationalization is that my tax dollars pay for the library. Sure, I've
purchased a few CDs--even replaced a few that have gotten damaged over the
years. It's really just the new releases that I really really want bad (and
can't wait for the Library) that I buy these days.

Thanks,
Phillip

> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert Wallace
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:29 PM
> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> Subject: [slim] OT - RIAA Kickbacks to SlimDevices? They deserve it.
>
> Hello,
>
> I've bought more CDs in the relatively short time I've owned
> my Squeezebox than in the many years preceding its purchase.
> It was always such a hassle, before, to juggle CDs into and
> out of my 100-CD changer. I'd just fallen out of the habit
> of listening to music.
>
> Not any more. With a Squeezebox (and EAC), the more music I
> have, the better!
>
> I now routinely scour the used CD stores. I'm a weekly CD
> buyer from Amazon Marketplace vendors. I've gone so far as
> to dig my 30-year old cassette collection out of boxes in the
> basement to get ideas for replacements (though not as many as
> I'd thought -- I had very sad taste in music 30 years ago).
>
> I hope the RIAA is sending a percentage of CD sales to
> SlimDevices, though I suspect they aren't. Too bad!
>
> Robert
>
>

Fraser
2004-07-01, 05:01
Slightly more off-topic, but the recording industry in Canada already
gets kickbacks on recording media, described in much detail here:

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml

....but in summary, there is a levy on recording media in Canada, which
goes to the record companies. In return for this levy, the laws states
that it is not copyright infringement to make a copy of a recording of a
*musical work* for your own use, whether or not you own the recording
you are copying. It is *not* legal to copy a recording then give the
copy to someone else.

So basically, it's legal (and not considered a copyright violation) to
copy a borrowed music CD for your own use.

But I don't know if they consider the hard drive that your Squeezebox
streams music from to be a recording medium in this sense. :-)

Phillip Kerman wrote:
> Hmm. Personally, I've been borrowing a lot from the library. Arguably,
> these CDs are ones I might not have otherwise purchased. My only
> rationalization is that my tax dollars pay for the library. Sure, I've
> purchased a few CDs--even replaced a few that have gotten damaged over the
> years. It's really just the new releases that I really really want bad (and
> can't wait for the Library) that I buy these days.

>

Jean-=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane=20Bergeron?=
2004-07-01, 07:27
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:01:45 -0400, "Fraser" <joat_ca (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca>
said:
>
> So basically, it's legal (and not considered a copyright violation) to
> copy a borrowed music CD for your own use.
>
Which is why I love my local public library !!!!! There is stuff there
that is difficult to get anywhere, and its free :-)

> But I don't know if they consider the hard drive that your Squeezebox
> streams music from to be a recording medium in this sense. :-)
>
Shhhhh <grin>

They do have a levy on the HD inside an iPod or other HD based MP3
player, so we should not give them any ideas. Since they do have levies
on blank CDs and DVDs, some of which are used for copyrighted music
while many others are not, it would not be such a stretch for them to
argue in favour of a levy on blank hard drives. Let's not give them any
ideas.

Even more OT, is yesterday's Canadian Supreme Court ruling on the
argument that ISPs should pay royalties for music being "shared" over
their network. The recording industry lost, much to the relief of
Canadian ISPs and their American counterparts who watching this
closely.

More on that story here -
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/internet/downloading_music.html

Happy Canada Day !!!!!