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Jean-=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane=20Bergeron?=
2004-06-30, 06:32
Hello,

I was wondering if you could help a FLAC newbie -

I have decided to take the FLAC plunge. Until recently, I was encoding
all my music using the LAME -alt extreme preset, but all the talk about
FLAC has convinced me to try it out.

I have downloaded FLAC and a FLAC front end
(http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm) and I am ready to start
encoding my first batch of music.

I have a good handle on most settings, but I do have a question about
the "Encoding Level"

What is the encoding level, what effect does it have on the output and
what are you using a encoding level (and why) ?

Thanks in advance.

John Gorst
2004-06-30, 07:53
Jean-Stéfane Bergeron wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if you could help a FLAC newbie -
>
> I have decided to take the FLAC plunge. Until recently, I was encoding
> all my music using the LAME -alt extreme preset, but all the talk about
> FLAC has convinced me to try it out.
>
> I have downloaded FLAC and a FLAC front end
> (http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm) and I am ready to start
> encoding my first batch of music.
>
> I have a good handle on most settings, but I do have a question about
> the "Encoding Level"
>
> What is the encoding level, what effect does it have on the output and
> what are you using a encoding level (and why) ?

I am by no means an expert but I will give you my basic understanding!

Flac is completely lossless so no matter what encoding level you use the
output will be the same when you play it back (i.e. perfect).

The encoding options however make the resulting files smaller (or
larger), so you can fit more on that huge hard disc! However the
encoding speed will be greatly reduced and the files do not actually get
that much smaller with increasing encoding levels. Therefore I use about
level 6 I think (cant remember it was what the guide told me to do). I
treid higher but it was far too slow for the extra compression achieves
(a couple of percent if that). Even with the higher levels though flac
encodes pretty fast on my p4 1.6.

I use EAC (exact auido copy), do I google search for it - very popular
software windows only. Very good and gives as near perfect copies of
your cd's as you willl get. There is a web guide (search for it) to set
it up to work with flac.

HTH

Pat Farrell
2004-06-30, 08:23
At 09:32 AM 6/30/2004, Jean-Stéfane Bergeron wrote:
>What is the encoding level, what effect does it have on the output and
>what are you using a encoding level (and why) ?

the encoding level controls how hard the compression algorithm
tries to find the perfect model for the waveform. The better the fit,
the better the compression, which is cool, since it is always
lossless, and takes the same time (hardly any) to decompress.

But, raising the encoding level makes compression a lot slower
and may, only may, reduce the file size a little. If you are waiting for
it to compress, you may not want a high value. I just let it compress
overnight, and don't care how long it takes.

The great thing about flac is that you can change your mind.
since it is lossless, you can compress at one level, and later decompress
and recompress at another if you want to. So experiment.

I just set it to max and kick it off while I sleep.

Pat

Jean-=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane=20Bergeron?=
2004-07-01, 07:30
Thanks John, PAt.

Great comments - that makes a great deal of sense.

I already use EAC to rip my content and then batch encode afterwards,
generally overnight. I love EAC and the accurate rips it performs. I
just prefer to encode in a batch and overnight.

Hello FLAC, here I come.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:53:29 +0100, "John Gorst"
<john_gorst (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:
> Jean-Stéfane Bergeron wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if you could help a FLAC newbie -
> >
> > I have decided to take the FLAC plunge. Until recently, I was encoding
> > all my music using the LAME -alt extreme preset, but all the talk about
> > FLAC has convinced me to try it out.
> >
> > I have downloaded FLAC and a FLAC front end
> > (http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm) and I am ready to start
> > encoding my first batch of music.
> >
> > I have a good handle on most settings, but I do have a question about
> > the "Encoding Level"
> >
> > What is the encoding level, what effect does it have on the output and
> > what are you using a encoding level (and why) ?
>
> I am by no means an expert but I will give you my basic understanding!
>
> Flac is completely lossless so no matter what encoding level you use the
> output will be the same when you play it back (i.e. perfect).
>
> The encoding options however make the resulting files smaller (or
> larger), so you can fit more on that huge hard disc! However the
> encoding speed will be greatly reduced and the files do not actually get
> that much smaller with increasing encoding levels. Therefore I use about
> level 6 I think (cant remember it was what the guide told me to do). I
> treid higher but it was far too slow for the extra compression achieves
> (a couple of percent if that). Even with the higher levels though flac
> encodes pretty fast on my p4 1.6.
>
> I use EAC (exact auido copy), do I google search for it - very popular
> software windows only. Very good and gives as near perfect copies of
> your cd's as you willl get. There is a web guide (search for it) to set
> it up to work with flac.
>
> HTH
>
>