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PhlLeig@aol.com
2004-06-29, 11:00
With 5.2 onwards (up to and including the 28/6 nightly+v28) everything is
working very well now (well done guys!) - except for the dreaded continuous drop
outs on FLAC &/or WAV.

The symptoms are exactly as described by others on this list - the buffer
indicator drops from full to empty instantaneously and then just keeps on
filling/dropping to nothing. The IR becomes unresponsive and eventually the server
is "lost contact". There are no cpu spikes during any of this, but you can
see network activity (bandwidth used) spiking to 2.5% and then down to 0%.

None of this occurs with FLACS transcoded to MP3 or native MP3, only with
FLAC-to-WAV.

Setup is XP home sp1, PIII 800, 512Mb ram, linksys LTE100 NIC (100BaseT)
wired to Linksys WAG54g gateway - wireless (sig strength 80%+) to Linksys WET54g
access point to wired Sq box.

There are no lost packets or dup acks in the trace as a far as I can see.

Please help - if you crack this final problem I'm buying more boxes!
I need to get WAV to my hi-fi - 320Kbs MP3 just ain't what I want to listen
to.

Hoping you can help
Phil

seanadams
2004-06-29, 11:40
>
> Setup is XP home sp1, PIII 800, 512Mb ram, linksys LTE100 NIC
> (100BaseT) wired to Linksys WAG54g gateway - wireless (sig strength
> 80%+) to Linksys WET54g access point to wired Sq box.

Phil - we will build a similar setup here to try and reproduce the
problem. We've been getting reports of this but no clues as to exactly
which piece of the setup makes it happen. Doesn't happen here for me
using Flac on Linux or AIFF on Windows, wired or wireless, but will try
some more hardware permutations.

> Please help - if you crack this final problem I'm buying more boxes!
> I need to get WAV to my hi-fi - 320Kbs MP3 just ain't what I want to
> listen to.

:)

Jules Taplin
2004-06-29, 12:21
For the record... I just tried a little flac->wav here... it's definately
not dropping out on my squeezeboxen. Linux server - wireless, and with
significantly crappier signal strength than Phil's encountering.

-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: [slim] 5.2 Music Drop out


> >
> > Setup is XP home sp1, PIII 800, 512Mb ram, linksys LTE100 NIC
> > (100BaseT) wired to Linksys WAG54g gateway - wireless (sig strength
> > 80%+) to Linksys WET54g access point to wired Sq box.
>
> Phil - we will build a similar setup here to try and reproduce the
> problem. We've been getting reports of this but no clues as to exactly
> which piece of the setup makes it happen. Doesn't happen here for me
> using Flac on Linux or AIFF on Windows, wired or wireless, but will try
> some more hardware permutations.
>
> > Please help - if you crack this final problem I'm buying more boxes!
> > I need to get WAV to my hi-fi - 320Kbs MP3 just ain't what I want to
> > listen to.
>
> :)
>
>
>

kdf
2004-06-29, 12:30
I'm not sure if this will help as another data point, but hopefully it will. I
see no dropouts of any kind when using the server on linux. When running a
small library in windows, and using softsqueeze pre0.6, the music will sputter a
bit evey time the browser refreshes. The perl process generally stays at low
CPU, but mozilla can jump a fair bit when refreshing, sometimes taking perl with
it into mid 40% each.

-kdf

Quoting Jules Taplin <slim-discuss (AT) ourhouse (DOT) org.uk>:

> For the record... I just tried a little flac->wav here... it's definately
> not dropping out on my squeezeboxen. Linux server - wireless, and with
> significantly crappier signal strength than Phil's encountering.
>
> -- Jules
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:40 PM
> Subject: [slim] 5.2 Music Drop out
>
>
> > >
> > > Setup is XP home sp1, PIII 800, 512Mb ram, linksys LTE100 NIC
> > > (100BaseT) wired to Linksys WAG54g gateway - wireless (sig strength
> > > 80%+) to Linksys WET54g access point to wired Sq box.
> >
> > Phil - we will build a similar setup here to try and reproduce the
> > problem. We've been getting reports of this but no clues as to exactly
> > which piece of the setup makes it happen. Doesn't happen here for me
> > using Flac on Linux or AIFF on Windows, wired or wireless, but will try
> > some more hardware permutations.
> >
> > > Please help - if you crack this final problem I'm buying more boxes!
> > > I need to get WAV to my hi-fi - 320Kbs MP3 just ain't what I want to
> > > listen to.
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> >

Pat Farrell
2004-06-29, 12:32
At 02:40 PM 6/29/2004, Sean Adams wrote:
>Phil - we will build a similar setup here to try and reproduce the
>problem. We've been getting reports of this but no clues as to exactly
>which piece of the setup makes it happen. Doesn't happen here for me using
>Flac on Linux or AIFF on Windows, wired or wireless, but will try some
>more hardware permutations.

I get occasional dropouts. Been getting them forever.
Maybe once an hour or less. No pattern that I can see.
Guarenteed to drop out at least once in 8+ hours
of listening.

Replaying the same song over does not reproduce it.
Much worse (unlistenable) if a rescan is going on.

Flac streamed over wired ethernet to SqueezeBox, running V27
and a couple of day's ago CVS, altho that has had zero impact.

My server is probably undersized, an old P3-500 Linux/Fedora Core 1.

The logs show
01 - Prelude.flac: ERROR while decoding data
state = 3:FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_READ_FRAME

whenever there is a dropout.

Pat