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pippin
2009-09-30, 20:37
Here's what iPeng users have been waiting for since 7.4 showed up:

NOTE: "Now" means it's released and starts to show up on the App Store over the next 24h. When it will appear in yours, depends on your location.

I'm are happy to announce the availability on the App Store of iPeng 1.2.

iPeng 1.2 is the third major release of iPeng and like 1.1 it will bring you major changes that will make iPeng an even better Music Remote.
Optimized for Squeezebox™ Server 7.4

To begin with, iPeng 1.2 is a complementary release for Squeezebox Server 7.4 and MySqueezebox.com. It fully supports these server releases and in many places also uses similar UI concepts.
In short: Here's what's new:

* New Look and Icon
* New User Interface handling ambiguous functionality through context menus instead of modes.
* New MultiPlayer control page that allows for easier player management (syncing, moving between sources,...)
* Group control for synced players.
* Player context menu bundling all player features, reachable through the MultiPlayer control
* Context menus for the current track and tracks in the current playlist.
* Improved management of current playlist including option to save it.
* Quick Tutorials explain the operation of iPeng.
* Many, many details.

New User Interface and Look.

The first thing you'll notice is changed colors.But believe me, it's not about colors.

iPeng now has a stringent UI concept that tries to do away with the confusion around SqueezePlay menus and different button modes. iPeng's new interface logic goes as follows:

* Every item that has more than one action attached to it does have a Context Menu
* You reach the Context Menu through a "hold" gesture (hold an item for approx. 1s). This will work almost everywhere (as long as there is something to be displayed): menus, library items, NowPlaying cover, playlist item, current player, you name it.
* Simply tapping an item will trigger the default action, most of the time this means: descend to a lower menu.
* Clicking an Album Cover (in a menu) will immediately play that album (there are one or two exceptions to this in places where it doesn't make sense to play the album).

There is one exception: When viewing an Album or Playlist (that is: anything containing only tracks) there is still the old "mode" scheme. This is to allow you faster access to tracks for playing whole albums or building playlists; for many users these are the things they usually do with iPeng:

* There are the tree modes in the navigation bar that determine what happens when you tap a track
* play plays the whole album from that track
* add adds the track to the end of the playlist
* play-next inserts the track after the current one in the playlist.
* hold will, as always, bring up a context menu.

New MultiPlayer Control

First of all: Yes, it does scroll :-). Apart from that, the whole thing has been completely redesigned.

* Synced players are now grouped in sync groups that are distinguishable by the currently playing track and play state. Below this there are the individual players and you can set individual volume and power state of each player.

* The MultiPlayer control has an edit mode in which you can move players between sync groups and also music sources. This can be done through drag'n'drop or by selecting several players and clicking a command button.

Group Control

If you select a player from a sync group, the main volume and power controls no longer act on the individual player, but on the whole group. Note: this is different from the "Sync Power" and "Sync Volume" settings in Squeezebox Server since you still have individual control over each player:

* The main volume slider will show the average volume of the sync group. Moving the slider will change the volume on all players synchronously. You can change the relative volume between players using the controls on the MultiPlayer control.
* The main power button will switch power on all players. You can still change the power state of individual players using the MultiPlayer control.

Player Context Menu

By clicking the accessory button on the current player in the MultiPlayer control or by holding the player you get to a player context menu. This menu will bundle all player specific settings and features such as

* Alarms
* Sleep
* Player name
* some plugins that act on players
* Digital Inputs (Transporter only).

NowPlaying Context Menus

The cover art on NowPlaying and the tracks in the current playlist now have a TrackInfo context menu that allows you to access features like

* Add to favorites
* Browse by album/artist etc.
* Access similar music through Apps
* Get more Information about the track

Current Playlist

* Deleting tracks from the current playlist has been changed to a batch delete (just try it, you will understand it).

* Also, the current playlist can now be saved.

Quick Tutorials

In several places in iPeng, features you encounter for the first time will be explained by a short, animated tutorial.
And many more details...

* Keep Connection now really works (at least for 30min)
* WiFi will no longer be shut down as long as the App is in the foreground.
* Apps can be included in the main menu.
* there is more...

As usual: Have fun with iPeng :-)


See some more images:

http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2009/10/01/ipeng-goes-1-2/

http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0231.PNGhttp://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0240.PNGhttp://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0232.PNGhttp://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0249.PNG

nolan
2009-09-30, 22:20
That's a coincidence, I just updated and picked it up.

Will try if out properly later but love the new icon, looks much better on my home page :)

Rest
2009-09-30, 23:23
Nice! I am at work right now and can't test it today, am I still able
to browse music folder?

markstrom
2009-10-01, 00:27
1. Search and then pick an artist. Albums are not sorted as if you pick an artist without searching. They should be sorted by Year (or Name if that setting is on).

2. Syncing players by dragging is kinda hard sometimes. When dropping the player "inside" another player is sometimes

3. Syncing players and then unsyncing them by dragging them sometimes leaves the players synced even though they are displayed in the interface as unsynced.

4. Rearrange order of players works fine except that you can't drop a player at top. I don't know if rearranging players is intentional feature but it would be nice if iPeng remembered the order when you restart the app.

pichonCalavera
2009-10-01, 00:31
I just played with it only for a few minutes, but the ability to grab some items and delete them in the Now Playing screens is the highlight for me and it's great!!

Any chance that a future update will allow to move many items too?

dsdreamer
2009-10-01, 00:45
Pippin,

Does iPeng 1.2 require 7.4? If I upgrade my iPOD touch to iPeng 1.2, will I be able to use it without also upgrading my SC software? Assuming it fails, does it fail gracefully with 7.3.4?

Chunkywizard
2009-10-01, 01:21
Hi pippin,

Just to say 1.2 is great. I really like the UI update, it makes it look much more professional. I seem that I can find song rating using press and hold, but is there anyway to change or set these using the UI? It would also be nice to be able to see them on the now playing screen or from within playlists. Anyway, fab update, keep up the good work.

Cheers

CW

pippin
2009-10-01, 01:26
Pippin,

Does iPeng 1.2 require 7.4? If I upgrade my iPOD touch to iPeng 1.2, will I be able to use it without also upgrading my SC software? Assuming it fails, does it fail gracefully with 7.3.4?

Peng still works with SC 7.3.x And I believe it's a worthwhile update for 7.3 users, too.
The context menus will not work as well with 7.3 as with 7.4 because there's a lot of functionality that's not yet there in 7.3 but that's new 7.4 functionality anyway and I have also spent considerable effort to get 7.3 as close as possible.
Also, the Music Services will still be under "Radios" and not under "Apps" obviously and lack the new functionality you can get there (especially context menus, again). You also only can put them on the main menu with 7.4.

So if you don't feel like going to 7.4 take your time. 7.4 does have some teething problems, although I believe it will eventually be worthwhile and some of these are not as bas with iPeng as without (iPeng _does_ have TrackInfo on NowPlaying and the current playlist also with 7.4 although some menu entries do not work correctly and it's a bit more easy to switch between SBS and MySB.




1. Search and then pick an artist. Albums are not sorted as if you pick an artist without searching. They should be sorted by Year (or Name if that setting is on).

2. Syncing players by dragging is kinda hard sometimes. When dropping the player "inside" another player is sometimes

3. Syncing players and then unsyncing them by dragging them sometimes leaves the players synced even though they are displayed in the interface as unsynced.

4. Rearrange order of players works fine except that you can't drop a player at top. I don't know if rearranging players is intentional feature but it would be nice if iPeng remembered the order when you restart the app.

1. good find! Could you file a ticket for this so that I not forget to fix it?
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/

2. Yes, well, that's how D'n'D on iPhone is... It's a bit hard to do with only "touch" as a control...
You can also sync by selecting the players you want to sync and pressing the "sync" button on the lower toolbar.

3. This is strange and should not be. I also haven't seen that. Are you sure they are still synced?
Sometimes it can take a short while until server feedback about sync/mode actions (move means: to another server) comes in ans therefore there can be a jumping back and forth but it should eventually do as commanded.

4. rearranging players is not purely accidental but let's say it's not an advertised feature because there are quite a lot of situations where it will not work (the sort order will change on it's own, that is).
It's extremely ahrd to get around that because what I see is that the server sometimes sporadically "forgets" about a player and brings it back later and you have to react to that because it could well have been a change through a different interface.
You could also file a ticket on the "rearrange to first place" thing and I'll investigate but right now I am not sure whether I maybe intentionally ignored the lack because you can still move the first item to second place.


I just played with it only for a few minutes, but the ability to grab some items and delete them in the Now Playing screens is the highlight for me and it's great!!

Any chance that a future update will allow to move many items too?

Actually that's something where I tried to get my head around recently (although for players, not tracks). Would a logic to mark several items and move them together if you move one of them be somehow intuitive?
That would make for a great ticket then :D


Nice! I am at work right now and can't test it today, am I still able
to browse music folder?

Well, if you ask like _that_ I can't give you an answer.
iPeng still supports it and it works better than in 1.1.2 yet I have never had any issues with this feature, it works fine with my controller as well.
So if people are experiencing issues I believe it's either
a) they lost/changed their library settings and don't have a music library set anymore (but use only iTunes or MusicIP integration)
b) there is some kind of issue with 7.4 and music folder browsing that I never encountered.

I can't promise anything on b) :D

pippin
2009-10-01, 01:28
Hi pippin,

Just to say 1.2 is great. I really like the UI update, it makes it look much more professional. I seem that I can find song rating using press and hold, but is there anyway to change or set these using the UI? It would also be nice to be able to see them on the now playing screen or from within playlists. Anyway, fab update, keep up the good work.

Cheers

CW

Err.. you mean like this?
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0225.PNG

You need TrackStat installed and the it's on a "single tap" overlay on NowPlaying. Similar to the iPod App.

Chunkywizard
2009-10-01, 01:32
Err.. you mean like this?
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/IMG_0225.PNG

You need TrackStat installed and the it's on a "single tap" overlay on NowPlaying. Similar to the iPod App.

Yep, I mean just like that! Fantastic. Is there a what's new section on your website? I read the overview but I think things like this fall under the 'and lots of other stuff' heading!

Cheers

CW

p.s. 1.2 is even better now.

pippin
2009-10-01, 01:38
Yep, I mean just like that! Fantastic. Is there a what's new section on your website? I read the overview but I think things like this fall under the 'and lots of other stuff' heading!

Cheers

CW

p.s. 1.2 is even better now.

You won't find that in "What's new", it's been around since 1.0 :D

I'm working on an updated manual right now but it will take until the end of the week until it's completed.

markstrom
2009-10-01, 01:49
Pippin,

Does iPeng 1.2 require 7.4? If I upgrade my iPOD touch to iPeng 1.2, will I be able to use it without also upgrading my SC software? Assuming it fails, does it fail gracefully with 7.3.4?

I'm running 7.3.4 and apart from my problems described above everything is smooth.

markstrom
2009-10-01, 02:29
1. good find! Could you file a ticket for this so that I not forget to fix it?
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/

2. Yes, well, that's how D'n'D on iPhone is... It's a bit hard to do with only "touch" as a control...
You can also sync by selecting the players you want to sync and pressing the "sync" button on the lower toolbar.

3. This is strange and should not be. I also haven't seen that. Are you sure they are still synced?
Sometimes it can take a short while until server feedback about sync/mode actions (move means: to another server) comes in ans therefore there can be a jumping back and forth but it should eventually do as commanded.

4. rearranging players is not purely accidental but let's say it's not an advertised feature because there are quite a lot of situations where it will not work (the sort order will change on it's own, that is).
It's extremely ahrd to get around that because what I see is that the server sometimes sporadically "forgets" about a player and brings it back later and you have to react to that because it could well have been a change through a different interface.
You could also file a ticket on the "rearrange to first place" thing and I'll investigate but right now I am not sure whether I maybe intentionally ignored the lack because you can still move the first item to second place.


1. #127

2. What happens is that I pick a player and drops it below another player header and above the other player name. (Can't provide a screenshot right now). The interface moves the header and player name apart but when I make the drop it returns to the previous position.

3. The interface show them as two separate players. If I select one of them and hit pause or next track, etc both reacts. I'll try to describe it step by step later.

4. I see that the "lost" player screws up the order. Can't iPeng keep the previous order until it's rearranged again? When the player returns it gets it's previous position back. If a previously unknown players turns up add it to the bottom of the list. In other words let iPeng determine the order all the time and don't care about the order from SqueezeCenter.

Deano
2009-10-01, 03:17
Hi Pippin, just wanted to say thanks. Fantastic upgrade, a lot more polished and intuitive. Icon's good too. D.

citoyen
2009-10-01, 03:43
Awesome update. Thanks for the UI polish.

pippin
2009-10-01, 04:21
1. #127

2. What happens is that I pick a player and drops it below another player header and above the other player name. (Can't provide a screenshot right now). The interface moves the header and player name apart but when I make the drop it returns to the previous position.

3. The interface show them as two separate players. If I select one of them and hit pause or next track, etc both reacts. I'll try to describe it step by step later.

4. I see that the "lost" player screws up the order. Can't iPeng keep the previous order until it's rearranged again? When the player returns it gets it's previous position back. If a previously unknown players turns up add it to the bottom of the list. In other words let iPeng determine the order all the time and don't care about the order from SqueezeCenter.

1. Thanks!
2. And it doesn't move back into the group after a few moments? What kind of player is this?
3. Can you reproduce this? Or did it only happen once? Do they still show up separately when you restart iPeng?
4. No, it's not that easy. iPeng gets the necessary data from the server through two different channels:
- serverstatus. This gives you the number ans IDs of the players
- player status. This contains the sync state.
The problem is that it can take several seconds until the new player status comes in. So iPeng first assumes that whatever action you did was successful and changes that proposition when a new player status with a different sync state comes in. Maybe that's where something went wrong.
First separating them again is a bad idea because it confuses users (they will think the sync failed; this still can happen when a regular player status comes in at the wrong time) and try to sync again.
The position problem is that server status sometimes seems to "lose" a player, iPeng then removes it and brings it back when the next player status comes in showing that the player is still there.

Sync management is still not perfect in SBS and iPeng has to work around that a bit.

gbruzzo
2009-10-01, 04:45
Great New Icon. Smooth interface.

It is so good, I honestly would have paid for each upgrade - separately.

thanks again

Oh, I forgot - the ffw/rew slider works like a charm, as does the volume (it has since the last version, admittedly)

markstrom
2009-10-01, 05:26
1. Thanks!
2. And it doesn't move back into the group after a few moments? What kind of player is this?
3. Can you reproduce this? Or did it only happen once? Do they still show up separately when you restart iPeng?
4. No, it's not that easy. iPeng gets the necessary data from the server through two different channels:
- serverstatus. This gives you the number ans IDs of the players
- player status. This contains the sync state.
The problem is that it can take several seconds until the new player status comes in. So iPeng first assumes that whatever action you did was successful and changes that proposition when a new player status with a different sync state comes in. Maybe that's where something went wrong.
First separating them again is a bad idea because it confuses users (they will think the sync failed; this still can happen when a regular player status comes in at the wrong time) and try to sync again.
The position problem is that server status sometimes seems to "lose" a player, iPeng then removes it and brings it back when the next player status comes in showing that the player is still there.

Sync management is still not perfect in SBS and iPeng has to work around that a bit.

2. I'll try to reproduce this.

3. I'll try to reproduce this.

4. I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about individual player rearrangement and not when syncing players. i.e. what order the players appear in the list. If we bring syncing into it I guess unsyncing either could bring the player back to where in the list is was before or put it at the bottom like when a new player appear.

start -> sort -> sync -> new -> unsync ->
A B C -> A C B -> C BA -> C BA D -> A C B D ->

paqi
2009-10-01, 11:22
Hi Pippinm

I just want to ask one thing - I dont see it in App store as a free upgrade so I assume that I have to purchase the 1.2 version?

Paqi.

simonjedrake
2009-10-01, 12:42
Hi Pippinm

I just want to ask one thing - I dont see it in App store as a free upgrade so I assume that I have to purchase the 1.2 version?

Paqi.

If you already have a prevouis version, it will appear an a FOC upgrade - mine has just appeared in the last few hours - maybe your "region" will be latter today.

paqi
2009-10-01, 12:49
Thanks I will wait and check when Denmark has been correct updated.

Paqi

pippin
2009-10-01, 13:26
Hi Pippinm

I just want to ask one thing - I dont see it in App store as a free upgrade so I assume that I have to purchase the 1.2 version?

Paqi.

As long as you use the same iTunes account that you purchased iPeng with, it's also safe to "purchase" it again. As soon as you have confirmed this it will tell you that you have bought the App before and you can now download it for free.

albertone74
2009-10-01, 13:50
Hi pippin,
Just to let you know that I love the new version 1.2 It is fantastic and it works very well!Thanks for this wonderful upgrade!!!!!!
Albertone74

championsound
2009-10-01, 13:57
Hi Pippin, i must say it's great to see such interaction between developer and customers, i'm a recent convert to squeezebox, and a big part of my decision was driven by ipeng, and the positive reviews and constant conversation you engage users in.

The update looks great, the icon in particular (good design always helps!) nice work, can't wait to get home and fire up the squeezebox.

andy

PS. it's available now in the NZ store.

Schindler
2009-10-01, 14:25
congratulations, nice piece of software!

christian

pippin
2009-10-01, 14:28
congratulations, nice piece of software!

christian

Your issues with many players in 1.1.2 are fixed now?

Govnah
2009-10-01, 14:29
Wow...great upgrade! One question, on the players page and the right arrow that takes yo to another context that has Alarm Clock, Sleep, Audio, etc can you add additional selections, for example I would like to add "Favorites" to the list?

Thanks

pippin
2009-10-01, 14:39
Wow...great upgrade! One question, on the players page and the right arrow that takes yo to another context that has Alarm Clock, Sleep, Audio, etc can you add additional selections, for example I would like to add "Favorites" to the list?


Interesting idea.
That menu is meant to be a player context menu but having a list of shortcut menus that show up like that on NowPlaying could be fun.

Could you file a ticket for this?
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/

.:.impossible
2009-10-01, 16:46
Thanks for the update Pippin. The UI looks great.

Unfortunately, my phone can no longer find my player; however, my server shows up just fine.

Any ideas?

Running 7.3.2 on a linkstation.

Thanks.

pippin
2009-10-01, 23:46
Do you see your player in the server's web interface?
Are you actually connected to your server? Or does it show up under "Music Sources" which means you have to select it.
If it's the latter and you are seeing this more often, please try enabling "Settings->iPeng Settings->Forget Last Server".

Could you follow up here?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929&page=101

Sike
2009-10-02, 01:19
Great stuff Pippin! It looks even better and looks more polished!

This is really a killer app for anyone who has a Squeezebox and an iPhone/iTouch!

hazymat
2009-10-02, 03:54
Rule #1.

If you are going to charge money for a product that involves having written copy, you might consider paying a professional proofreader.

There are spelling and grammatical errors all over this application, starting in the "Welcome to iPeng 1.2" screen.

Mat
www.matsmithphotography.com

pippin
2009-10-02, 04:18
Rule #1.

If you are going to charge money for a product that involves having written copy, you might consider paying a professional proofreader.

There are spelling and grammatical errors all over this application, starting in the "Welcome to iPeng 1.2" screen.

Mat
www.matsmithphotography.com

I'm sure there are.
Do you have some examples?


Rule #1 was to get it done in time, btw.

pippin
2009-10-02, 04:24
OK, reading it again I can see what you mean about the welcome screen.
_My_ Rule #1 applies, though, this was the very last thing done before release.

What else did you find?

Sike
2009-10-02, 05:19
Rule #1.

If you are going to charge money for a product that involves having written copy, you might consider paying a professional proofreader.

There are spelling and grammatical errors all over this application, starting in the "Welcome to iPeng 1.2" screen.

Mat
www.matsmithphotography.com

I am sure Pippin could have done it better in German.. I just use iPeng for the functionality...

Have you ever read a technical documentation of any Industrial electronics equipment (i.e. VERY expensive) coming from china? It looks like english... but it ain't..

hunta
2009-10-02, 06:10
Pippin, this is a really good release. Thanks for the time and effort, a vast improvement over 1.1.2.

One thing though that I was really hoping for was the default screen when viewing the main menus. When you click the left arrow from the Now Playing screen, it always takes you to the settings page. In all likelihood I'm going looking for more music to play, not change my settings. I tend to browse by Artist or, possibly, by Album, so I have these dragged down to the shortcut bar at the bottom.

Could it remember the page you were last on (between sessions too), or failing that default to the first of the 4 shortcuts?

Hope this makes sense...

luga00
2009-10-02, 06:11
Hi Pippin,

First time I've been able to use it for a while as I had to upgrade to 7.4 a couple of months back after the Slim team fixed a problem for me.

It all works fine except occasionally I find that I'm stuck in Now playing mode (the three screen swipe) with no way to get out. The icon at the top of the screen is missing and hence there is no way to break out.

Just wondering if you've come across that before. I'm going to try and reproduce to see if I can consistently make this happen as I'm not sure what is causing this at the moment.

I've attached screen shots of the Now playing screens.

regards
Russ

pippin
2009-10-02, 07:41
Pippin, this is a really good release. Thanks for the time and effort, a vast improvement over 1.1.2.

One thing though that I was really hoping for was the default screen when viewing the main menus. When you click the left arrow from the Now Playing screen, it always takes you to the settings page. In all likelihood I'm going looking for more music to play, not change my settings. I tend to browse by Artist or, possibly, by Album, so I have these dragged down to the shortcut bar at the bottom.

Could it remember the page you were last on (between sessions too), or failing that default to the first of the 4 shortcuts?


It does. You fell into a bug that will be partly fixed in 1.2.1
The problem here is, that you probably changed the Tab Bar (on the lower end of the screen) while being connected to MySqueezebox.com so the first item now defaults to "i".
You probably can't remove it while being connected to SBS so please go to MySB, exchange the "i" for something else and then switch back to SBS. In 1.2.1 you will be able to remove the item also from SBS and long term the way it should be is this:
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/134

pippin
2009-10-02, 07:45
Hi Pippin,

First time I've been able to use it for a while as I had to upgrade to 7.4 a couple of months back after the Slim team fixed a problem for me.

It all works fine except occasionally I find that I'm stuck in Now playing mode (the three screen swipe) with no way to get out. The icon at the top of the screen is missing and hence there is no way to break out.

Just wondering if you've come across that before. I'm going to try and reproduce to see if I can consistently make this happen as I'm not sure what is causing this at the moment.

I've attached screen shots of the Now playing screens.

regards
Russ

Ooops. That's bad.
I believe this means that the menu from which you came when you entered NowPlaying is no longer there, but this should not happen because you can't switch players from anywhere other than NowPlaying. Weird.
Or did maybe your player disconnect while you were browsing... but that should not be an issue.
Please file a ticket as soon as you find a way to reproduce this.
I see you have more than one player, I believe you might be able to recover by switching to a different player.

pippin
2009-10-02, 07:59
I am sure Pippin could have done it better in German..

For that very screen: Probably not. That was done _very_ late in the night one day after the really, really, final due date and 8 days after the one it really should have been for App Store submission when I did not yet know that the old iPeng release did actually work with 7.4...

This was a critical update that _had_ to come out with the MySB change because you could no longer register with MySB with the old one and I am actually very, very thankful to Apple that they put me on the fast lane to get it available soon after Logitech's release.

Line
2009-10-02, 11:32
Congratulaitons on the new update!

We're the CLI commands to play songs changed? I am using squeezeslave 0.9 for win32 and now after upgrading to 7.4 and ipeng 1.2 when i click on an album cover or song it will just load an empty playlist and nothing happens.

I can use the web based controls just fine, but not ipeng.

pippin
2009-10-02, 12:19
Congratulaitons on the new update!

We're the CLI commands to play songs changed? I am using squeezeslave 0.9 for win32 and now after upgrading to 7.4 and ipeng 1.2 when i click on an album cover or song it will just load an empty playlist and nothing happens.

I can use the web based controls just fine, but not ipeng.

Is this the local library or a remote service?
This should be the same as before?
Does anything else work?

chenrikson
2009-10-02, 13:05
Wonderful update!! Thanks so much for all your work!!

jbhuffer
2009-10-02, 16:27
Wow this new UI is awesome! Hate to say it, but iPeng looks and works better than any of the Logitech interfaces. Keep up the great work!

nwplace
2009-10-02, 17:14
Rule #1.

www.matsmithphotography.com

I think you could also extend this to web pages but a simple spellcheck would do to start with.

Line
2009-10-03, 00:05
Is this the local library or a remote service?
This should be the same as before?
Does anything else work?

I just performed an ubuntu 9.04 apt-get remove --purge and apt-get install of squeezeboxserver and let it run its initial scan of the library over (local music). Everything seems to be working fine now!

I guess what I may have done wrong last time was to install extensions and restart the server, interrupting the initial scan which messed up the database entries?

Anywho, thanks for the update pippin!

Phil Leigh
2009-10-03, 00:33
Can I use iPeng 1.2 with the new iTouch 8Gb 3rd gen?

Espen
2009-10-03, 01:03
Works great with 7.3.1 - I am slow sometimes when things just work. Best UI there is for the SB and the sole reason why I bought a iPod Touch in the first place.

One minor thing that also was present in the prev. version. On program startup, the status message area on the bottom of the screen says in a quick sequence

1 "No player connected"
2 "Your player was not found"
3 and finally the <player name>

Would it not been better to just say "Initializing" or something similar and then go straight to the <player name>?

pichonCalavera
2009-10-03, 01:23
Can I use iPeng 1.2 with the new iTouch 8Gb 3rd gen?

If I'm not mistaken, the " new" 8gb ipod touch is not really a 3rd gen Ipod Touch, it is a 2nd gen ipod touch. The 3rd gen Ipod Touch only comes in 32gb and 64gb versions.

But if you are buying the 8gb you should have no problems, since I myself have a 2nd gen Ipod touch running Ipeng.

speedtriple
2009-10-03, 02:42
Very good update!

But I use the SC with volume disabled. So I would like an option to remove the new nice Volume Buttons in iPeng.

Phil Leigh
2009-10-03, 02:50
If I'm not mistaken, the " new" 8gb ipod touch is not really a 3rd gen Ipod Touch, it is a 2nd gen ipod touch. The 3rd gen Ipod Touch only comes in 32gb and 64gb versions.

But if you are buying the 8gb you should have no problems, since I myself have a 2nd gen Ipod touch running Ipeng.

Many thanks - I'm not familiar with Apple stuff (I have none).
But I'd like to try ipeng and this seems the cheapest route?

pippin
2009-10-03, 07:03
I just performed an ubuntu 9.04 apt-get remove --purge and apt-get install of squeezeboxserver and let it run its initial scan of the library over (local music). Everything seems to be working fine now!

I guess what I may have done wrong last time was to install extensions and restart the server, interrupting the initial scan which messed up the database entries?

Anywho, thanks for the update pippin!

Yes, iPeng still has some issues with incomplete (or empty) databases...



1 "No player connected"
2 "Your player was not found"
3 and finally the <player name>

Would it not been better to just say "Initializing" or something similar and then go straight to the <player name>?

Could you file a ticket for this?
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/


If I'm not mistaken, the " new" 8gb ipod touch is not really a 3rd gen Ipod Touch, it is a 2nd gen ipod touch. The 3rd gen Ipod Touch only comes in 32gb and 64gb versions.

But if you are buying the 8gb you should have no problems, since I myself have a 2nd gen Ipod touch running Ipeng.

Yep. It's exactly like that.
The touch 8GB works fine although the 3G models are indeed a bit faster.
If you want to go cheap search for refurbished iPods on Apple's Web site.


Very good update!

But I use the SC with volume disabled. So I would like an option to remove the new nice Volume Buttons in iPeng.

That's actually a bug:
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/138
These are only supposed to show up when you use IRBlaster. Will be fixed in 1.2.1

mikes
2009-10-03, 07:46
Great update pippin! Love the improved UI and the all the context menus on the playlist.

One request -- could you add an option to display album artwork on the playlist. I play mostly dynamic playlist mixes and that is the only thing I like on the controller that I can't see on iPeng. Otherwise iPeng is definitely my clear preferred choice with this latest update.

Keep up the great work.

It is well worth the investment if anyone is still wavering on that choice.

pippin
2009-10-03, 08:39
One request -- could you add an option to display album artwork on the playlist. I play mostly dynamic playlist mixes and that is the only thing I like on the controller that I can't see on iPeng. Otherwise iPeng is definitely my clear preferred choice with this latest update.


Planned. Didn't make it into 1.2 but will probably show up in 1.2.5 or 1.3.

Could you file a ticket, just to make sure it's not forgotten?

hunta
2009-10-03, 09:46
It does. You fell into a bug that will be partly fixed in 1.2.1
The problem here is, that you probably changed the Tab Bar (on the lower end of the screen) while being connected to MySqueezebox.com so the first item now defaults to "i".
You probably can't remove it while being connected to SBS so please go to MySB, exchange the "i" for something else and then switch back to SBS. In 1.2.1 you will be able to remove the item also from SBS and long term the way it should be is this:
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/134

Sorry, but if I've understood you correctly then this isn't it. I've gone into MySB and the first item on the bottom toolbar is Favourites. Interestingly though the MySB main menu also defaults to More, whereas if I've understood correctly it should be Favourites as that's first in the shortcuts along the bottom.

pippin
2009-10-03, 10:18
Sorry, but if I've understood you correctly then this isn't it. I've gone into MySB and the first item on the bottom toolbar is Favourites. Interestingly though the MySB main menu also defaults to More, whereas if I've understood correctly it should be Favourites as that's first in the shortcuts along the bottom.

No, if you initially start iPeng, the main menu defaults to "More", that's the expected behavior since that's really the full main menu.
I'm not sure whether "i" needs to be the first item, but iPeng always seems to open that one if it's present with a SBS, maybe because it's an item that is not in the list of editable items....

hunta
2009-10-03, 11:30
No, if you initially start iPeng, the main menu defaults to "More", that's the expected behavior since that's really the full main menu.
I'm not sure whether "i" needs to be the first item, but iPeng always seems to open that one if it's present with a SBS, maybe because it's an item that is not in the list of editable items....

Fair enough. I guess then that's what I'm saying - I don't think it makes sense for More to be the default, because you're most likely to want to use one of the items on the shortcut bar. You've put them there because they're the ones used most often...

pippin
2009-10-03, 12:08
Yes, but doesn't iPeng return to the one you used last time?
I'll investigate a bit..

EnochLight
2009-10-03, 12:16
Greetings Pippin!

Fantastic update; love it with 7.4 (despite 7.4's "teething problems"). ;-) That said, I found a couple of graphical glitches on mine when the tutorials kick in. Not a deal breaker for me but thought I'd mention it.

See the image below. This happened when I hit the "reverse" button at the bottom of the tutorial when it was playing to see an animation play over (by the way, you might want to add an iPeng setting to disable animations and to slow playback down).

I'm on an iPhone 3GS (3.1) and Squeezebox Server 7.4 on Vista 32 bit SP2. Did a clean install of SB Server and updated my previous version of iPeng while sync'd to iTunes.

Cheers!

pichonCalavera
2009-10-03, 13:07
Actually that's something where I tried to get my head around recently (although for players, not tracks). Would a logic to mark several items and move them together if you move one of them be somehow intuitive?
That would make for a great ticket then :D


I think marking several items and moving one, causing them to move at the same time would be nice feature.

I've added a new ticket, is #141

jacabo
2009-10-03, 14:01
took me some fussing (mainly with squeezebox server) to get it running, but i like the new version -- takes care of many of the nits i had about 1.1.

Question- for some reason albums are showing multiple times, even if they have the same artist. The controlling factor appears to be the composer -- for example in the screen shot attached, Abbey Road shows up 5 times because there are 5 different combinations of composers for different songs (lennon-macarteny;lennon-macarteny-harrison, etc). its a real hassle, and i dont see how to fix it. When I want to view my albums, I want to see each album once. Any ideas -- is this your setting or something in squeezebox server?

thanks

pippin
2009-10-03, 14:33
See the image below. This happened when I hit the "reverse" button at the bottom of the tutorial when it was playing to see an animation play over (by the way, you might want to add an iPeng setting to disable animations and to slow playback down).

Good find!
Is animation playback too fast?
I had a lot of experimenting around this because I didn't want it to be too slow (I don't want people to skip the animation, but of course it should not be too slow.
My compromise is that the automatic progressing is disabled whenever you manually go "back" or "next" so that you can decide on your own speed.


I think marking several items and moving one, causing them to move at the same time would be nice feature.

I've added a new ticket, is #141

Thanks!


took me some fussing (mainly with squeezebox server) to get it running, but i like the new version -- takes care of many of the nits i had about 1.1.

Question- for some reason albums are showing multiple times, even if they have the same artist. The controlling factor appears to be the composer -- for example in the screen shot attached, Abbey Road shows up 5 times because there are 5 different combinations of composers for different songs (lennon-macarteny;lennon-macarteny-harrison, etc). its a real hassle, and i dont see how to fix it. When I want to view my albums, I want to see each album once. Any ideas -- is this your setting or something in squeezebox server?


I assume it shows up the same way in the Web Interface/Controller? Judging from the number of threads on the issue this seems to be a general 7.4 problem. I also have a few of these, yet then I always did.
Have you tried experimenting with the
"Settings-My Music->Compilations"
and
"Settings->My Music->Group Discs"
Settings in SBS?

mikes
2009-10-03, 15:34
Planned. Didn't make it into 1.2 but will probably show up in 1.2.5 or 1.3.

Could you file a ticket, just to make sure it's not forgotten?

Thanks, that sounds great.
I added https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/142

jhonsberger@msn.com
2009-10-03, 17:05
Hi Pippin. I like the new version better then the last.

One question.I cant seem to add albums from Rhapsody to my
rhapsody library.I press the add to albums feature but it wont add
the album. When you press the area it highlights blue but doesnt do
anything else.THis is while im listening to the music and i press the
album artwork and try to add while listening not prior to listening which
does work.

Is this an upcoming feature that is not ready yet?

pippin
2009-10-03, 17:40
Hi Pippin. I like the new version better then the last.

One question.I cant seem to add albums from Rhapsody to my
rhapsody library.I press the add to albums feature but it wont add
the album. When you press the area it highlights blue but doesnt do
anything else.THis is while im listening to the music and i press the
album artwork and try to add while listening not prior to listening which
does work.

Is this an upcoming feature that is not ready yet?

This doesn't work from the NowPlaying context menu.
I know it but it's a complete mystery to me, currently investigating.
All other menus seem to work, I suspect it's something to do with some context on the plugin side not being set correctly or whatever.

It works from browsing your App.

hunta
2009-10-04, 03:02
Yes, but doesn't iPeng return to the one you used last time?
I'll investigate a bit..

It does within a session, but if I close the app and reopen it defaults back to Main. Since I tend to close down when I've made my selection and reopen when I want to make some other adjustment this is a bit of a pain. Willing to accept if I'm in the minority though.

ajkidle
2009-10-04, 03:23
Great update Pippin, the new UI is a big improvement.

Question regarding the Facebook integration. Is there support for multiple accounts? My wife and I each use iPeng on our iPhones -- but both point to my Facebook page, which is annoying. This may be more of a SBS issue than an iPeng issue. Is there anyway to make our iPhones behave independently of one another (ie unique settings?)

pippin
2009-10-04, 03:24
It does within a session, but if I close the app and reopen it defaults back to Main. Since I tend to close down when I've made my selection and reopen when I want to make some other adjustment this is a bit of a pain. Willing to accept if I'm in the minority though.

No, it's supposed to return when you open it.
You are right, that looks broken right now.
Did you file a ticket?

Espen
2009-10-04, 07:00
Another issue I have observed in 1.2 and with the prev. version as well (maybe a known issue).

After startup, when I go straight to the "New Music" page there is no progress bar telling about updating cache. If I switch to the album view it is shown, but goes away again if I decide to switch to the New Music View again.

Should not the progress indicator be shown in any view that deals with information from the server or at least those that display cover art? The cache is updated, as the cover art is shown in the end, but the user is not informed what is going on.

abelincoln
2009-10-04, 07:42
Hi Pippin

Loving the upgrade. Was wondering if there is anyway to get back to the main menu say in Napster without having to go back sometimes 4 or 5 screens as happens after you do a search. Would be nice if you could just hold your finger on the left pointing arrow on top to take you back to the main menu.

pippin
2009-10-04, 10:36
After startup, when I go straight to the "New Music" page there is no progress bar telling about updating cache. If I switch to the album view it is shown, but goes away again if I decide to switch to the New Music View again.

Should not the progress indicator be shown in any view that deals with information from the server or at least those that display cover art? The cache is updated, as the cover art is shown in the end, but the user is not informed what is going on.

The progress indicator has nothing to do with the cover art (other than that cover art only starts loading after all albums have been cached).
Instead, it shows how much of the _page_ you are looking at is already cached.
And it only shows up for pages that do actually become cached. These are Albums, Artists and Genres. NewMusic is not being cached since it typically only contains 200 albums which is not _that_ much for iPeng.



Loving the upgrade. Was wondering if there is anyway to get back to the main menu say in Napster without having to go back sometimes 4 or 5 screens as happens after you do a search. Would be nice if you could just hold your finger on the left pointing arrow on top to take you back to the main menu.

If you tap on the active tab bar icon again, iPeng will return to the top level menu for that tab.

Paul_B
2009-10-04, 13:44
Pippin,

Great release!

How do you break a groups which I assume is the termfor two players ynchronised?

Paul

pippin
2009-10-04, 14:06
How do you break a groups which I assume is the termfor two players ynchronised?


You select the edit mode (button at the top right).
Then you can either drag a player out of the group or you can select the player (tap it and it will get a check mark) and then tap the "unsync" button on the lower tool bar (broken chain symbol).

hunta
2009-10-05, 01:21
No, it's supposed to return when you open it.
You are right, that looks broken right now.
Did you file a ticket?

Thanks for clearing that up.

I haven't done but if you'd like me to I will do so this evening once I'm home - I don't seem to be able to access the tracking site from work.

pippin
2009-10-05, 01:58
I haven't done but if you'd like me to I will do so this evening once I'm home - I don't seem to be able to access the tracking site from work.

That was probably because my hosting provider had a server maintenance today. Should be back up again now.

hunta
2009-10-05, 11:04
That was probably because my hosting provider had a server maintenance today. Should be back up again now.

Ticket #145 raised:
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/145

etychon
2009-10-06, 00:19
I'm using iPeng since it's available on iTunes store. It has changed completely my usage of SqueezeBoxes... I've always found the Squeezebox interface very limited -- such as browsing through a list of artists or album on a single line display. And did not want to carry my PC in the living room.

And then there was iPeng. It is all at once: convenient, easy, stable enough, good looking, it shows the artwork, etc.... And now, my iPod Touch can be put in good use even when I stay home.

Thanks for the good job!

Emmanuel

Sune
2009-10-06, 12:13
Hi there,

Long time, no posting from my side. It does not mean I do not enjoy my Squeezebox & iPeng. In fact I am actually using this daily (iPeng was my main motivation for buying my original iPod Touch). It looks fantastic (finally the home-screen-icon & app. graphics that you've been longing for :-). And I surely can control many more aspects easily and quickly. Nice!

I have a few questions / comments, and do realise that I as usual risk just having overlooked this...but here we go (using SqueezeCenter 7.3.2):

- Tapping on the left/right side of the "dots" on the now playing screens does no longer seem to have any effect - choice or bug?

- I suffer from "slow" reaction when browsing artists or genres. Every time I choose e.g. a genre, it is loading for a loooong time before showing something, then I choose an artist and the same happens. This makes it slow and frustrating. Anything I can do? Would a bigger cache improve on things? For my sake you can cache *everything* (iPeng is my most important app, after all).

- I cannot find the MusicIP integration - is it gone?

- I experience, when browsing certain genres, that when I click "all albums", then I literally see all albums in my library - not the ones belonging to the chosen genre. Anyone else experiencing this? Could be a Server issue, although it works fine on the Squeezebox itself.


Cheers from Denmark - looking forward to being pointed in the right directions :-)



Sune

pippin
2009-10-06, 13:04
- Tapping on the left/right side of the "dots" on the now playing screens does no longer seem to have any effect - choice or bug?

Choice. It was always buggy and you were at risk of disconnecting the "dot control" from the actual page.
Did you actually use this?


- I suffer from "slow" reaction when browsing artists or genres. Every time I choose e.g. a genre, it is loading for a loooong time before showing something, then I choose an artist and the same happens. This makes it slow and frustrating. Anything I can do? Would a bigger cache improve on things? For my sake you can cache *everything* (iPeng is my most important app, after all).

Could you file a ticket? I want to do a big cache-makeover after 1.3 to also cache several servers and improve some other things.
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/

Generally, I'm not aware that anything has changed on the artists/genres query code so I'm surprised that it behaves different.
Genres have always been slow.


- I cannot find the MusicIP integration - is it gone?

Err... no? Problem is I can't test this right now since I don't have MusicIP on my 7.3 server. It should be in the Album Context menu that you get when "holding" an album. And in the TrackInfo menu you get when "hold"ing a track within an album or on the current playlist or the NowPlaying cover art.
Is it not there? What do you see?


- I experience, when browsing certain genres, that when I click "all albums", then I literally see all albums in my library - not the ones belonging to the chosen genre. Anyone else experiencing this? Could be a Server issue, although it works fine on the Squeezebox itself.

Hm. I'm not seeing this. Have you played around with the "show only albums/tracks with the chosen Genre" setting on the server side?

pippin
2009-10-06, 14:12
Great update Pippin, the new UI is a big improvement.

Question regarding the Facebook integration. Is there support for multiple accounts? My wife and I each use iPeng on our iPhones -- but both point to my Facebook page, which is annoying. This may be more of a SBS issue than an iPeng issue. Is there anyway to make our iPhones behave independently of one another (ie unique settings?)

No, as stated somewhere in another forum there obviously is not and Andy said this was due to a request from facebook.

On the phones, what do you want to do differently? The settings within iPeng should be local to that device.
If you want different server configurations I'm afraid you will need separate servers.

Sune
2009-10-06, 14:20
Hi Pippin,

Ok, thanks for the ultraquick support :-) I will look where described. I tried checking the help on the website, but did not manage to find anything related to MusicIP, but guess I should have searched for "mixers" in general. My bad. I will try tomorrow.

As for the Cache thing, sure. I do only have 7.000 tracks (all in AAC format) so it is not a huge collection - hence, it should be possible to cache everything. The music server itself is a bit old though (G4 Mac Mini running 10.5), so it could be a server performance issue, I guess...

Good night for now,

Sune

pippin
2009-10-06, 14:24
Sune, neither the G4 nor your library size should cause issues.
The AAC on the other hand...
Is the browsing slower if you play something? AAC is being transcoded on your server so THAT will consume quite a bit of CPU.

Sune
2009-10-07, 01:10
Sune, neither the G4 nor your library size should cause issues.
The AAC on the other hand...
Is the browsing slower if you play something? AAC is being transcoded on your server so THAT will consume quite a bit of CPU.

*grin* - and I just spent an eternity on converting everything to one common format. Should have checked twice on this, I guess.

As for the browsing speed, I will check if it is connected to the AAC.

What *would* have been a good format, looking to preserve sound quality while not filling up the harddrive too fast?

andynormancx
2009-10-07, 01:34
For a combination of small file size and compatibility MP3 would have been the best option.

For small file size, with a format that can be played natively by the Squeezeboxes WMA was probably the best bet. But then you sacrifice compatibility.

The "proper" answer though would have been to buy a new hard drive, encode to FLAC and worry about encoding to lossy files only when you really need the small file size.

slimfast
2009-10-07, 07:32
*grin* - and I just spent an eternity on converting everything to one common format. Should have checked twice on this, I guess.

As for the browsing speed, I will check if it is connected to the AAC.

What *would* have been a good format, looking to preserve sound quality while not filling up the harddrive too fast?


If you were converting to lossless format, mp3 is the logical choice. It's supported by just about everything out there.

However, as another poster suggested something lossless like FLAC would be the way to go if you are ripping your collection. With the size of HDDs these days it's not really an issue that it takes more space to store and you can always batch convert later if you want to put it into any given lossy format.

local.bin
2009-10-07, 13:23
Congrats on the excellent update to 1.2! :)

Very nice; the devices page is great and the help pages are a nice touch.

Much better for those of us that don't read the complete manual!

cheers

btw did you rule out streaming to iPeng, by making it a device? or is that possible?

Thanks

pippin
2009-10-08, 00:15
Didn't rule it out, working on it...

miniwaites
2009-10-08, 03:02
Hello Pippin,

very much liking the update - thank you.

There's only a couple of things I'd like to see: the buttons to take you between the now playing screen and the music library screen could be a little bit larger - as i spend most of the time flicking back and forth between the 2. Also could all the album art be chached on the iphone - so that it's there instantly?

thanks

Mini

kesey
2009-10-08, 05:31
I invested in a 64 gig iPod touch last weekend, charged it up having first installed iTunes 9 on my desktop, did a minimal bit of reading of the iPod manual, and fired up the touch.

Next up was to download and install iPeng 1.2 and to figure out how to use the touch and iPeng. Brilliant...there's a bit of learning for a guy brought up on Windows (not to mind PCDOS) but once the touch interface begins to make sense, iPeng turns out to be a treat. Well done pippin!

iPeng beats the living daylights out of the Duet, and makes the possibility of buying the Squeezebox Touch much more likely.

pippin
2009-10-08, 12:20
Hello Pippin,

very much liking the update - thank you.

There's only a couple of things I'd like to see: the buttons to take you between the now playing screen and the music library screen could be a little bit larger - as i spend most of the time flicking back and forth between the 2. Also could all the album art be chached on the iphone - so that it's there instantly?

thanks

Mini
All album art is being cached on the iPhone after you read it once.
It's not all residing in memory but as much as I believe iPhone can handle.

Sune
2009-10-09, 13:40
Choice. It was always buggy and you were at risk of disconnecting the "dot control" from the actual page.
Did you actually use this?Yes, but it's not a big thing.


Could you file a ticket? I want to do a big cache-makeover after 1.3 to also cache several servers and improve some other things.
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/OK, will do. Just did some testing. Can see that while my iPeng is "loading", load on server is pretty low (approx. 83% idle, 1.33 GHz G4).


Generally, I'm not aware that anything has changed on the artists/genres query code so I'm surprised that it behaves different.
Genres have always been slow.It's not - it was the same problem with the previous version.

What I do: "Genres -> All Albums"...and the result in 1.2 is literally *ALL Albums*. Not good, because what I ultimately wish to do is to shuffle all songs to listen to random stuff from a specific genre.

The good news is the "contextual menu", which seems to work. Holding down on a chosen Genre brings up a "Play" option. So this works for now.




Err... no? Problem is I can't test this right now since I don't have MusicIP on my 7.3 server. It should be in the Album Context menu that you get when "holding" an album. And in the TrackInfo menu you get when "hold"ing a track within an album or on the current playlist or the NowPlaying cover art.
Is it not there? What do you see?MusicIP shows up nicely in the contextual menus everywhere. Only issue seems to be that mixing is very slow (albeit, no load for MusicIP on the server while mixing !?). But it works if you have a bit of patience. And that is nice :-)

I'll btw. give 7.4.1 a shot...

pippin
2009-10-10, 00:37
Genres->All Albums is expected to show all albums sorted by Genre, after all you didn't select a Genre.
Genres-><a genre>->All Albums should bring up the albums for a genre

sflen
2009-10-11, 10:48
First off, thank you for a great program!

I have encountered a sync error. Background:

Snow Leopard 10.6.1, iPod Touch 3.1.1. iPeng 1.2, SqueezeCenter 7.4

4 Slim Devices - 1 Transporter and 3 SqueezeBox Classics. 3 of these are always in sync and have been for the past 6 months: Master Bedroom SqueezeBox, Living Room Transporter, Kitchen SqueezeBox.

While experimenting with your program, I took the Master Bedroom off sync. Using your program, I then put the Master Bedroom back in sync by tapping Kitchen. Your program then showed all three units back in sync and they actually were in sync.

I then began to notice, for the first time ever, that periodically I would lose the audio from my Master Bedroom. The info of the song would continue to scroll but nothing came out of the analog outputs. Turning off the Master Bedroom and then pushing the Play button on the remote would bring back the sound. I discovered that every time I would turn off the Kitchen (all three still in sync), within a few minutes, the Master Bedroom lost its sound. Repeatable.

I then went to my Intel iMac in Local 9000 and took the three units off sync. Then using Local 9000 again, I first put the Master Bedroom in sync with the Living Room and then put the Kitchen in sync with the combined Master Bedroom and Kitchen.

Problem solved. I no longer lose the sound in the Master Bedroom when I turn off the Kitchen.

Thought you would like to know and experiment with this.

Regards

pippin
2009-10-11, 15:07
I'll check.
Yet I don't believe this is an iPeng command. iPeng doesn't really DO the syncing, it just tells SBS to do that, so it also can't really do a lot wrong. This is very straightforwrd, it's "sync player a to player b" period.

I'm seeing quite a few issues with syncing on SBS 7.4, too. Which kinds of players do you use? Can you _reproduce_ the issue and what is the sequence of things you are doing?
What kind of files are you playing?

sflen
2009-10-11, 17:12
Thanks for your reply. I am playing AIFF files.

In my previous post, I have already listed all the players, the exact sequence of events, and how I solved the problem.

I spent a lot of time in figuring out the problem and correcting it. I will not start over again to re-create the problem.

No permanent errors and no real big deal. I just wanted to let you know of my experience.

Again, thanks for a great program.

Regards

pippin
2009-10-12, 00:47
Could it be that you had a different Master set in between the experiments?
In iPeng, you see which device is the master from the order: the master is the one at the top.

vagskal
2009-10-12, 10:17
Genres->All Albums is expected to show all albums sorted by Genre, after all you didn't select a Genre.
Genres-><a genre>->All Albums should bring up the albums for a genre

I do not have a Genres=>All Albums option; the first screen when tapping Genres, the screen that lists all the genres, does not have an All Albums option. And if I choose Genres=><a genre>, Acid Jazz, for example, and then All Albums I get a list of _all_ albums by _all_ artists, sorted by artist, not just albums with songs that have the genre Acid Jazz set and not just albums for the two artists in my collection that have performed songs with the genre Acid Jazz set.

In SBS, I have set the option Filter genre on album and song level to Show all albums and songs for an artist (my own English translation of the option).

Since I do not care much for applying genres to my music or browse by genres, it is not a big issue for me, but, just like Sune and in accordance with your reply, I doubt that this is the intended behaviour. Am I doing something wrong?

sflen
2009-10-12, 11:18
Could it be that you had a different Master set in between the experiments?
In iPeng, you see which device is the master from the order: the master is the one at the top.

Now when I look at my device screen on iPeng, I see Master Bedroom on top, then Living Room and finally Kitchen on the bottom of the list.

I do not recall the order when I first used 1.2 but it was probably the same as now. I do remember that first I took Master Bedroom off sync using iPeng and then was surprised that I did not have the option to put it back in sync with combined 'Living Room, Kitchen'. Instead I just tapped Kitchen and all 3 devices were then in sync. These were my only sync changes using iPeng. This is when my problem of losing the sound of my Master Bedroom SqueezeBox Classic (after turning off Kitchen SqueezeBox Classic) first appeared.

I think that just choosing only 'Kitchen' in order to sync everything again eventually caused the sound problem. The strangeness of not being offered the combination of my other two units made me decide to solve my problem by using Local 9000 on my computer instead of iPeng.

I am aware of several weird problems which depend on the sequence of turning on and off synced devices on 7.3.X. This is probably one more bug that shows in 7.4.

Again, this was just to bring this problem to your attention and perhaps it would help another user in case he unexpectedly loses the sound on a device.

I know you are working on a manual (hurry, hurry) which would make things easier. For instance, what is the function of the large up/down arrow buttons which show on each device on the device list? I tap them, I tap and hold, but nothing happens. They appear on those devices that have set volume. My only device that has adjustable volume is the Master Bedroom and a volume control appears on that device instead of the up/down large arrows.

Thanks again

Regards

BigTony
2009-10-12, 12:06
Humm, I keep checking 'updates' in apps for my iTouch - and it says everything is updated, but no new ipeng (still on version 1.1.2).
How do i get the new version?
Cheers
Tony

sflen
2009-10-12, 12:11
Humm, I keep checking 'updates' in apps for my iTouch - and it says everything is updated, but no new ipeng (still on version 1.1.2).
How do i get the new version?
Cheers
Tony

Have you updated to Apple 3.1.1 yet? Until I did this update (3.0 or higher) for my iPod Touch, the new iPeng would not download. Personally, it was worth the $4.95 to pay Apple in order to get the new iPeng. I otherwise had no need for the Apple update,

(Sorry for the original answer - it was done b/4 lunch)

BigTony
2009-10-12, 12:55
Have you updated to Apple 3.1.1 yet? Until I did this update (3.0 or higher) for my iPod Touch, the new iPeng would not download. Personally, it was worth the $4.95 to pay Apple in order to get the new iPeng. I otherwise had no need for the Apple update,

(Sorry for the original answer - it was done b/4 lunch)

Ah ... humbug!!! Thanks for letting me know that, i don't use itunes so i've not updated my itouch; i suppose i need itunes for the update?

pippin
2009-10-12, 13:52
I do not have a Genres=>All Albums option; the first screen when tapping Genres, the screen that lists all the genres, does not have an All Albums option. And if I choose Genres=><a genre>, Acid Jazz, for example, and then All Albums I get a list of _all_ albums by _all_ artists, sorted by artist, not just albums with songs that have the genre Acid Jazz set and not just albums for the two artists in my collection that have performed songs with the genre Acid Jazz set.

In SBS, I have set the option Filter genre on album and song level to Show all albums and songs for an artist (my own English translation of the option).

Since I do not care much for applying genres to my music or browse by genres, it is not a big issue for me, but, just like Sune and in accordance with your reply, I doubt that this is the intended behaviour. Am I doing something wrong?

Well, let's say: something's wrong. This is not the intended behavior and it's not what I see. I will have to experiment with this. Could you check whether flushing the cache solves it?



I do not recall the order when I first used 1.2 but it was probably the same as now. I do remember that first I took Master Bedroom off sync using iPeng and then was surprised that I did not have the option to put it back in sync with combined 'Living Room, Kitchen'. Instead I just tapped Kitchen and all 3 devices were then in sync. These were my only sync changes using iPeng. This is when my problem of losing the sound of my Master Bedroom SqueezeBox Classic (after turning off Kitchen SqueezeBox Classic) first appeared.

I don't understand this one. Did you maybe use a plugin like The Synchronizer or something to sync the devices? Or did you move them between MySqueezebox.com and your server (there's an SC bug that sometimes syncs devices if you do that)?

In iPeng you usually sync devices through Drag'n'Drop (by dragging one on the other or a group) or by selecting the device and selecting the "sync" button. Both in the "Edit" mode on the players screen (activated on that screen through the button in the top right).


I am aware of several weird problems which depend on the sequence of turning on and off synced devices on 7.3.X. This is probably one more bug that shows in 7.4.

If your players are off and you torn on a single one of these, the selected one will become master. That's the only behavior I am aware of.


I know you are working on a manual (hurry, hurry) which would make things easier.

Definitely. Have to return from Scotland, first.


For instance, what is the function of the large up/down arrow buttons which show on each device on the device list? I tap them, I tap and hold, but nothing happens. They appear on those devices that have set volume. My only device that has adjustable volume is the Master Bedroom and a volume control appears on that device instead of the up/down large arrows.

That's a bug and will be fixed in 1.2.1. The up/down buttons should only appear on devices using IRBlaster and there they do volume.


Ah ... humbug!!! Thanks for letting me know that, i don't use itunes so i've not updated my itouch; i suppose i need itunes for the update?

Yes.

sflen
2009-10-12, 14:27
I don't understand this one. Did you maybe use a plugin like The Synchronizer or something to sync the devices? Or did you move them between MySqueezebox.com and your server (there's an SC bug that sometimes syncs devices if you do that)?

In iPeng you usually sync devices through Drag'n'Drop (by dragging one on the other or a group) or by selecting the device and selecting the "sync" button. Both in the "Edit" mode on the players screen (activated on that screen through the button in the top right).

If your players are off and you torn on a single one of these, the selected one will become master. That's the only behavior I am aware of.

The up/down buttons should only appear on devices using IRBlaster and there they do volume. That's a bug and will be fixed in 1.2.1.



Thank you for the reply.

I have only used my computer and SqueezeCenter Local 9000 to sync except of course for the one time using iPeng to sync which caused the sound problem. As stated above, once I re-synced using Local 9000 I do not have any sound problems

The weird problems due to the sequence of turning on and off synced players show up in the device display being one song behind (easily fixed) and also show up in trying to alter player menus (it would be too long to describe here but it is a problem being worked on by the fine folks at SqueezeCenter).

Thanks for letting me know about those large up/down buttons.

So OK - enough with Scotland and PLEASE come on home and work on the manual.

Regards

pippin
2009-10-12, 14:34
I have only used my computer and SqueezeCenter Local 9000 to sync except of course for the one time using iPeng to sync which caused the sound problem. As stated above, once I re-synced using Local 9000 I do not have any sound problems

What I didn't understand were your comments on how you did sync with iPeng.Please read my comment again.


So OK - enough with Scotland and PLEASE come on home and work on the manual.

NO WAY!!!!!!!

sflen
2009-10-12, 15:39
What I didn't understand were your comments on how you did sync with iPeng.Please read my comment again.



OK...background:

Snow Leopard 10.6.1, iPod Touch 3.1.1, iPeng 1.2, SqueezeCenter 7.4

4 Slim Devices - 1 Transporter and 3 SqueezeBox Classics. 3 of these are always in sync and have been for the past 6 months: Master Bedroom SqueezeBox, Living Room Transporter, Kitchen SqueezeBox. These three devices were put in sync by using Local 9000 on my iMac. All three devices were 'on'.

On iPeng, I went to device list and pushed the edit button top right corner. I then selected 'Master Bedroom', a red circle with checkmark appeared, and then I pushed the 'un-sync' button on the bottom of the screen.

(what follows is by memory as I do not wish to cause the sound problem again) Master Bedroom was no longer synced. Living Room and Kitchen were still in sync.

I then selected Master Bedroom and then selected Kitchen. I then pushed the 'sync' button on the bottom of the screen and now all three devices were again in sync.

Later I turned the Kitchen SqueezeBox off using my Squeeze remote in the kitchen. That caused the sound in the Master bedroom to go off in about 5 minutes but the Master Bedroom was still showing the song that was playing.

I then turned the Master Bedroom off using the Squeeze remote. I pushed the Play button on the Squeeze remote and I had sound again. I did the experiment of turning off the Kitchen 3 times and 3 times I lost the sound in theMaster Bedroom.

I went to Local 9000 and un-synced everything and then synced the Master Bedroom to the Living Room. Then I synced the Kitchen to the combination 'Master Bedroom, Living Room'. Now when I turn off Kitchen, I do not lose the sound of the Master bedroom.

I think the problem was caused by NOT giving me the option to sync my Master Bedroom with the combination 'Living Room, Kitchen' which were already in sync - I had to choose EITHER the Living Room OR the Kitchen because that is what your program offered. This probably interacted badly with the SqueezeCenter software.

As I stated before, this is just to let you know of the problem or to give a heads-up to any user with multiple synced devices who mysteriously loses sound. As I leave these three devices always synced, I can always use my computer to change this.

I hope this makes sense as I cannot write anymore!

Regards

vagskal
2009-10-13, 00:14
Well, let's say: something's wrong. This is not the intended behavior and it's not what I see. I will have to experiment with this. Could you check whether flushing the cache solves it?


Cache flushed, but the behaviour persists.

pippin
2009-10-13, 02:04
OK...background:

Snow Leopard 10.6.1, iPod Touch 3.1.1, iPeng 1.2, SqueezeCenter 7.4

4 Slim Devices - 1 Transporter and 3 SqueezeBox Classics. 3 of these are always in sync and have been for the past 6 months: Master Bedroom SqueezeBox, Living Room Transporter, Kitchen SqueezeBox. These three devices were put in sync by using Local 9000 on my iMac. All three devices were 'on'.

On iPeng, I went to device list and pushed the edit button top right corner. I then selected 'Master Bedroom', a red circle with checkmark appeared, and then I pushed the 'un-sync' button on the bottom of the screen.

(what follows is by memory as I do not wish to cause the sound problem again) Master Bedroom was no longer synced. Living Room and Kitchen were still in sync.

I then selected Master Bedroom and then selected Kitchen. I then pushed the 'sync' button on the bottom of the screen and now all three devices were again in sync.

Later I turned the Kitchen SqueezeBox off using my Squeeze remote in the kitchen. That caused the sound in the Master bedroom to go off in about 5 minutes but the Master Bedroom was still showing the song that was playing.

I then turned the Master Bedroom off using the Squeeze remote. I pushed the Play button on the Squeeze remote and I had sound again. I did the experiment of turning off the Kitchen 3 times and 3 times I lost the sound in theMaster Bedroom.

I went to Local 9000 and un-synced everything and then synced the Master Bedroom to the Living Room. Then I synced the Kitchen to the combination 'Master Bedroom, Living Room'. Now when I turn off Kitchen, I do not lose the sound of the Master bedroom.

I think the problem was caused by NOT giving me the option to sync my Master Bedroom with the combination 'Living Room, Kitchen' which were already in sync - I had to choose EITHER the Living Room OR the Kitchen because that is what your program offered. This probably interacted badly with the SqueezeCenter software.

As I stated before, this is just to let you know of the problem or to give a heads-up to any user with multiple synced devices who mysteriously loses sound. As I leave these three devices always synced, I can always use my computer to change this.

I hope this makes sense as I cannot write anymore!

Regards

OK, now I understand what you did :-)
just selecting single players out of a sync group to sync doesn't make a difference, you always sync with the master.

Just to be sure: Did you probably use the main (big) power button to turn the power off? That would turn off _all_ devices unless you disable group control in iPeng's settings?
Or do you have set a "synced power" in SqueezeCenter's settings for some of your devices?


Cache flushed, but the behaviour persists.

Ok, this looks very, very wrong indeed. I'll investigate when I'm home.

simonjedrake
2009-10-13, 05:36
Ah ... humbug!!! Thanks for letting me know that, i don't use itunes so i've not updated my itouch; i suppose i need itunes for the update?

Apple last night released 3.1.2 software which fixes a couple of issues . . . . and all updates are now FOC via iTunes as well. One of the nice features in the current 3.1.x releases is the ability to easily change your "apps" screen layouts
Simon

sflen
2009-10-13, 07:34
Just to be sure: Did you probably use the main (big) power button to turn the power off? That would turn off _all_ devices unless you disable group control in iPeng's settings?
Or do you have set a "synced power" in SqueezeCenter's settings for some of your devices?




I only use my Logitech factory remotes to turn on/off my units - the big button upper right corner. Using this button will ONLY affect the device I turn on/off. My SqueezeCenter player setting 'Synchronize Power' is at 'Power off/on Separately' for all devices.

FYI, my 'Don't Group Controls' on iPeng is 'Off' (never knew I had this iPeng option until you mentioned it)

UPDATE: I used iPeng to set "Don't Group Controls" to 'On'. When I turned off the Master Bedroom using my Logitech remote, both the Living Room and Kitchen lost their sound within a few minutes but still showed the song playing. In other words, it did the opposite of what it should. I turned this setting back to 'Off' and my 3 devices work as before - all are in sync but each one has independent power on/off.

BTW - When I use iPeng to change alarm settings, the SqueezeCenter Player Alarm settings change immediately. Using iPeng to change the "Don't Group Controls" setting will NOT change the SqueezeCenter Player Sync settings. There appears to be a conflict between iPeng and SqueezeCenter concerning sync.

No more on this subject - in order to keep sync problems to a minimum, I will use my computer and Local 9000 for my player settings.

Regards

Sune
2009-10-19, 10:39
Cache flushed, but the behaviour persists.

Yup, that's the issue I've always been having with iPeng and SC 7-7.3. Exactly :-) And cache flushing does not help.

With SS 7.4.1 I do not seem to experience this - which is really nice!

I do however, still feel that the app is a bit slow on my configuration (Mac Mini, 1.25 GHz, music collection in 256 bit AAC format), even though the UNIX command "top" indicates at least 20% idle time even during the most demanding "search'es".

In generally my CPU load according to the TOP command increases shortly when pulling a lot of data from iPeng (especially if I do a MusicIP Mix), load does however not exceed 80% and it immediately drops back to 5-15%, which is the normal load when just playing music. On the iPhone iPeng is still showing "Loading..." long time after the peak. It eventually finishes a few seconds later - but it makes it feel slow.

But it is MUCH better with 7.4 than it was before. Overall I am happy with the great work done by Pippin - this App was my original reason for joining the i-craze :-)

/Sune

ajkidle
2009-10-19, 15:37
Apologies if this has already been asked. I looked for it and didn't find anything.

I'm having trouble with the ADD mode. I want to add individual songs to the end of my playlist, which I understand is what this is supposed to do. Works as described for my local FLAC library, but does not work with Rhapsody. When I try to add a specific Rhapsody track, the whole album is appended to the end of my playlist. All the tracks that I didn't select show up as having length of 0:00, the track I did select shows up as expected. But when it advances to the next track, all the 0:00 get their real length, and it starts playing from track #1 of the album I chose a song from.

Makes it difficult to create playlists... Any ideas?

I have iPeng "Play single tracks" set to ON. Also have Squeezeboxserver set to play individual songs.

Running SBS 7.4, Ubuntu 9.04, iPeng 1.2, and iPhone OS 3.1.2.
Two SBR's and a Boom playing in sync.

Thanks,
Andy

pippin
2009-10-19, 18:35
Apologies if this has already been asked. I looked for it and didn't find anything.

I'm having trouble with the ADD mode. I want to add individual songs to the end of my playlist, which I understand is what this is supposed to do. Works as described for my local FLAC library, but does not work with Rhapsody. When I try to add a specific Rhapsody track, the whole album is appended to the end of my playlist. All the tracks that I didn't select show up as having length of 0:00, the track I did select shows up as expected. But when it advances to the next track, all the 0:00 get their real length, and it starts playing from track #1 of the album I chose a song from.

Makes it difficult to create playlists... Any ideas?

I have iPeng "Play single tracks" set to ON. Also have Squeezeboxserver set to play individual songs.

Running SBS 7.4, Ubuntu 9.04, iPeng 1.2, and iPhone OS 3.1.2.
Two SBR's and a Boom playing in sync.

Thanks,
Andy
Can you see details in a Playlist? This currently doesn't work for me, which is probably a bug in iPeng.
I can reproduce the issue and from what I see it's a bug in Squeezebox Server (unless it's intended behavior). The "add" command issues an "addall" command.
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14848

pippin
2009-10-20, 00:58
I do not have a Genres=>All Albums option; the first screen when tapping Genres, the screen that lists all the genres, does not have an All Albums option. And if I choose Genres=><a genre>, Acid Jazz, for example, and then All Albums I get a list of _all_ albums by _all_ artists, sorted by artist, not just albums with songs that have the genre Acid Jazz set and not just albums for the two artists in my collection that have performed songs with the genre Acid Jazz set.

In SBS, I have set the option Filter genre on album and song level to Show all albums and songs for an artist (my own English translation of the option).

Since I do not care much for applying genres to my music or browse by genres, it is not a big issue for me, but, just like Sune and in accordance with your reply, I doubt that this is the intended behaviour. Am I doing something wrong?


OK, I still can't reproduce this, not with 7.4.1, not with 7.3.3
If anybody is still seeing this and is willing to give me access to his or her database, please PM me.

ajkidle
2009-10-20, 17:38
Can you see details in a Playlist? This currently doesn't work for me, which is probably a bug in iPeng.
I can reproduce the issue and from what I see it's a bug in Squeezebox Server (unless it's intended behavior). The "add" command issues an "addall" command.
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14848

I can't see details in playlist. At least, I don't think I can. What does that look like?

Thanks for the prompt response. I voted for the bug, hope it gets fixed soon.

pippin
2009-10-20, 17:42
I can't see details in playlist. At least, I don't think I can. What does that look like?


Forget it.
I was referring to another issue that results in not showing the list of tracks in a playlist in Rhapsody.
Doesn't apply to albums, though.

pippin
2009-11-24, 16:57
Today, iPeng 1.2.1 got released on the App Store.

iPeng 1.2.1 is a maintenance release which primarily improves the compatibility with Squeezebox Server 7.4 and fixes some errors but it does come with a few improvements as well.
Improvements include:

* Better handling of context menus in SBS 7.4, especially including the "Add to favorites" and "Remove from favorites" menus available on the Squeezebox Controller to streaming service context menus.
* Better detection of „hold“ gesture avoids accidental triggering of actions;
* iPeng reconnects to the server by server name; this improves automatic reconnection in DHCP managed networks, you no longer need the "Forget Last Server" Option
* Status icons for Alarms and Sleep plus a lot of additional icons for plugins;
* Support for Slide Show Artwork (e.g. in the Flickr app);
* Sorting of search results, Albums returned by "Search" now are sorted as defined in iPeng's settings plus additional information for the albums will be shown;
* If "Play Single Tracks" option is set in settings, the "Play Shuffled" item in Playlists and Albums will be replaced by "Play All" since "Play All" is not redundant in this context.

See the full list of bugfixes in 1.2.1:

https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/query?status=closed&milestone=Release+1.2.1

Have fun with iPeng 1.2.1!

abelincoln
2009-11-25, 05:49
Thanks for creating this wonderful app. I use it every day.

pippin
2009-11-25, 08:48
Thank you :)

Bill Burns
2009-11-25, 10:05
On 11/24/2009 6:57 PM, pippin wrote:
>
> Today, iPeng 1.2.1 got released on the App Store.

Thanks for the update! You'll remember a few weeks ago I asked if iPeng
would run OK on 7.5 - I can now report that I've encountered no problems
at all with it, and I've been keeping up with the 7.5 nightlies on a
regular basis.

--
Bill Burns
Long Island NY USA
http://ftldesign.com

simonjedrake
2009-11-26, 06:13
Today, iPeng 1.2.1 got released on the App Store.

Have fun with iPeng 1.2.1!

Installed latest update last night, perfect - just like a swiss clock - runs on latest 7.4.2 beta with no problems.
This app was the prime reason I brought my itouch originally, it revolutionises the use of my system, and IMO gives the SC more user friendly features than a Sonus system.
Well done pippin

Ikabob
2009-11-26, 06:33
Yes, I agree with all of the above. I really appreciate having ipeng and I thank you for your work in developing and maintaining the app. I,too, bought my itouch specifically so I could have ipeng and I carry the itouch wherever I go.

THANK YOU for the update.

jhd
2009-12-14, 01:01
This is a very, very well crafted piece of software. To the point that buying a gen 1 iPhone on eBay to use for nothing but a SB remote with iPeng is a perfectly sensible thing to do.

Well done, Pippin!

luuk
2009-12-14, 03:50
I would love to try the new iPeng 1.2.1 (I am still on 1.1.2) but cannot. First, my iTouch (8Gb) does not offer me this update. When I try to "buy" it in the regular way I am told the program is not compatible and that I need the iPhone 3.0 software update. What is going on?

ajkidle
2009-12-14, 04:14
To the point that buying a gen 1 iPhone on eBay to use for nothing but a SB remote with iPeng is a perfectly sensible thing to do.



This is brilliant, I can't believe it's taken actually reading this comment to realize this is what I need. I'm currently running iPeng on my 3GS, but there is something annoying about having the controller software on my phone (sharing with others, etc.) A dedicated iPod Touch is the answer.

Will iPeng run okay on the first gen iPod Touch? Any concerns with the older hardware?

cunobelinus
2009-12-14, 04:50
On 14 Dec 2009, at 11:14, ajkidle wrote:

> Will iPeng run okay on the first gen iPod Touch?

Yes.

> Any concerns with the
> older hardware?

None that I've seen after six months or more of such use.

pippin
2009-12-14, 05:08
I would love to try the new iPeng 1.2.1 (I am still on 1.1.2) but cannot. First, my iTouch (8Gb) does not offer me this update. When I try to "buy" it in the regular way I am told the program is not compatible and that I need the iPhone 3.0 software update. What is going on?

Exactly this. iPeng 1.2 requires iPhone OS 3.0. It depends about some features and quite a few bug fixes in the OS that are only available from 3.0 on.
So you will need to update the iTouch's firmware to 3.0 or newer to use it. Sorry for the inconvenience.



Will iPeng run okay on the first gen iPod Touch? Any concerns with the older hardware?

It will run perfectly well on the 1G iTouch.
Only limitation is that you can't use the hardware volume buttons since the 1G iTouch doesn't have them :)

flyingdoherty
2009-12-14, 08:11
Oh.... Never realized I could use my hardware volume button (don't argue, please)... thank u again...

pippin
2009-12-14, 09:24
Oh.... Never realized I could use my hardware volume button (don't argue, please)... thank u again...

It really makes most sense if you also use the "Preserve Connection" option, because then you can use it without having to disable the screen saver.
It's the "unofficial feature" since it doesn't fully comply to Apple's HIG and also always changes the iPhone's system (or active) volume since that can't be turned off, but it's still pretty useful.

luuk
2009-12-14, 14:38
What a pity. I had a quick look at Apple's plug for version 3.0 and it seemed to me they have the cheek to make you pay 9if not very much) for an update the most prominent features of which allows Apple to sell you more goodies. It is a little bit like paying for parking at the supermarket!

Your remark that it actually improves on the old software softens the blow somewhat (-:

Luuk

pippin
2009-12-14, 15:33
Yes, I agree that's a bit of a drag.
I try to avoid unnecessary sw requirements (for example all of the smaller ones after 3.0 are not needed) but 3.0 was too big a change to ignore.
To be honest, I'd expect Apple to do the same thing with 4.0 and I'd expect it will have a similar impact on compatibility, whatever it may be...

luuk
2009-12-15, 00:05
Updated my iPhone Touch and nstalled the new iPeng. First impressions are very good, but how do I save a radio station among my favourites?

Also, any plans to adapt iPeng for Android (so far, none of the existing Android apps can hold a candle to Ipeng).

pippin
2009-12-15, 00:59
Updated my iPhone Touch and nstalled the new iPeng. First impressions are very good, but how do I save a radio station among my favourites?

Also, any plans to adapt iPeng for Android (so far, none of the existing Android apps can hold a candle to Ipeng).
Currtently you have to play the station to do that.
Then hold the cover art on NowPlaying for 1s, it's in the Context Menu that comes up.

luuk
2009-12-15, 13:29
Thanks a lot. That is real easy and makes a lot of sense.

Luuk

pippin
2010-03-11, 20:01
Ok, I agree this has long been overdue :)

iPeng 1.2.1 has been out for a while now but the User's manual was not completely up to speed with this release.

Now, this has changed. I'm happy to announce that the User's Manual is now fully up to date with regards to iPeng 1.2.1. While completing the 1.2.1 version, we added some more detail and hopefully the readability has improved as well.

Also, the new User's Manual is now available for download in PDF format.

Like before, it's designed as an online manual, supports readability on iPhone/iPod touch through an iPhone skin and can be reached using the links in the App under "Help".

You can find the User's manual at

help.penguinlovesmusic.de

Even if you are an experienced iPeng user, have a look and see whether you'll discover some features you didn't know about, yet.

Have fun!

killie99
2010-03-12, 07:28
iPeng 1.2.1 has been out for a while now but the User's manual was not completely up to speed with this release.

Now, this has changed. Have fun!

Thanks Pippin, I shall give it to my wife to read!

ezkcdude
2010-03-12, 08:00
I just pre-ordered an iPad this morning. Clearly, it (and other slate devices) could be a game-changer in that you can easily use the SqueezeCenter web interface in its full glory, something that was obviously not possible on smaller devices. Hence, the need for applications like iPeng on the iPhone. Android has several apps, too.

In light of this new class of devices, will we see an iPeng specifically for the iPad? Perhaps, with the larger format, there are a whole new host of applications that would make sense. Any thoughts?

Siduhe
2010-03-12, 08:19
In light of this new class of devices, will we see an iPeng specifically for the iPad? Perhaps, with the larger format, there are a whole new host of applications that would make sense. Any thoughts?

Have you seen this?

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581&highlight=ipad

ezkcdude
2010-03-12, 09:43
Have you seen this?

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581&highlight=ipad

Thanks!