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mmg_fan
2009-09-10, 05:31
Hi
at $200 figured its finally time to get an ipod touch

Has anyone used their iphone or itouch to control their music server?
Are there any recommended apps for doing this?

andynormancx
2009-09-10, 05:32
Yes, get the excellent iPeng app.

Luke Redpath
2009-09-10, 05:58
And I highly recommend Squeemote (http://lukeredpath.co.uk/squeemote/). ;)

b33k34
2009-09-10, 08:07
I've been using iPeng for a while but Squeemote looks good as well.

Squeezecenter itself is starting to look like a weak link in the chain now. The responsiveness and ease of use of iPeng (and even more so from Squeemote) makes Squeezecenter's interface look a poor relation.

Is there any way these iPhone apps could be adapted for desktop use (at least on Apple hardware)? Surely the major work has been done - these apps are caching the library and artwork and delivering it quicker than the web interface does.

For example I've always found Sync to be confusing and hard to find whether by remote or web app but the sync interface of Squeemote looks the business.

pippin
2009-09-10, 08:51
Is there any way these iPhone apps could be adapted for desktop use (at least on Apple hardware)? Surely the major work has been done - these apps are caching the library and artwork and delivering it quicker than the web interface does.

Hm. I believe there are good desktop applications as well, for example Moose (which caches the library, too).
I believe you do want a different interface on the desktp because you don't have to optimize as much for available space.


For example I've always found Sync to be confusing and hard to find whether by remote or web app but the sync interface of Squeemote looks the business.
You should see the one on the upcoming new iPeng release :-)

signor_rossi
2009-09-10, 08:58
Since the iPod/iPhone is discussed here, someone might know what the difference between the cheapest iPod and the two more expensive ones is, beside the price and storage space, of course. The Apple website says that the latter ones are faster, do they have a faster clocked processor? Does the cheapest iPod miss other things? I might get an iPod Touch too, since the Controller is a hassle to use for browsing and searching the library, and an overhaul of the UI for it is much unlikely.

signorRossi.

exile
2009-09-10, 09:19
i highly recommend buying an itouch for controlling your squeezeboxes. I use the touch almost exclusively as a controller.

I also use ipeng and find it very good.

fyi- a couple things that I use the squeeze remote for instead of ipeng:
making musicip mixes- it has always seemed clunky to do this in ipeng.
making mixes based on trackstat-also a matter of being hard to navigate in ipeng.

best of luck!

pippin
2009-09-10, 10:15
making mixes based on trackstat-also a matter of being hard to navigate in ipeng.


How do you navigate there using the remote? If this in the context menu or something?
I mean: MusicIP is in the TrackInfo menu but TrackStat?

exile
2009-09-10, 11:23
pippin-

i make trackstat playlists by navigating to a artist and holding down the play button for a few seconds. i then have the option of selecting: musicIP mix or trackstat mix (based on the list of trackstat possibilities which is long). often times I like to play top rated tracks by artist or tracks that haven't been played recently.

greg from winnipeg
2009-09-10, 12:39
Since the iPod/iPhone is discussed here, someone might know what the difference between the cheapest iPod and the two more expensive ones is, beside the price and storage space, of course. The Apple website says that the latter ones are faster, do they have a faster clocked processor? Does the cheapest iPod miss other things? I might get an iPod Touch too, since the Controller is a hassle to use for browsing and searching the library, and an overhaul of the UI for it is much unlikely.

signorRossi.

I am also looking at purchasing a touch. The third generation of ipod touch has just been released. Will the increase in processor speed make any significant difference for its use with ipeng? Is an 8 gb touch sufficient?

pippin
2009-09-10, 13:04
I can't tell whether it will make a difference, my 3g touch only arrives next week.
Btw, the 8GB models are still 2G.

That said: if you want a faster iPeng, take the cheapest iTouch and invest in a faster server. As on my experience speed is more dependent on server performance. There may be a few UI things that may become faster with a faster iPod but you have to be aware that iPeng (and Squeemote, too, btw) are nowhere near as slow as the web interface.

signor_rossi
2009-09-10, 15:22
I thought as much, since the lowest model is dispatched immediately and the others take 5 working days. BTW, is there a difference in processing power between an iPod 2G and an iPhone 1G (which my brother has and I am testing iPeng with) ? My server is fast enough, but I have it clocked at the lowest frequency atm, will test if album artwork is showed faster if I allow him to clock faster.

signorRossi.

EDIT: Now that I have looked at the Apple website once more, you can see clearly that only the 32 and 64 GByte models are declared as 'New'. Missed that before.

andynormancx
2009-09-10, 15:26
is there a difference in processing power between an iPod 2G and an iPhone 1G (which my brother has and I am testing iPeng with) ?

Yes, the iPod Touch 2G is actually a tiny bit faster than iPhone 2G/3G.

GeeJay
2009-09-10, 16:57
Has anyone really noticed speed issues with the Touch 2G? I can't say I have gobs of experience, but on the few occasions I've used IPeng on my daughter's IPod it seemed just as fast as using the IR remote. Speed is more dependent on SC than the remote, or so it seems to me.

agentsmith
2009-09-10, 18:05
Has anyone really noticed speed issues with the Touch 2G? I can't say I have gobs of experience, but on the few occasions I've used IPeng on my daughter's IPod it seemed just as fast as using the IR remote. Speed is more dependent on SC than the remote, or so it seems to me.

Not much issue with speed even with 1G 32GB Touch upgrade to firmware 3.0 (supposed to be more resource hungary).

However I have ordered a 3G Touch since I gave my 1G away. We'll see

signor_rossi
2009-09-15, 11:08
It seems that the Controller UI DOES get an overhaul with SC 7.4. Yay, I was wrong!
Tested it and like it so far. :)

signorRossi.

pacc
2009-09-18, 02:15
Wikipedia has correct info on speed:

# CPU: Initially ARM 400 MHz, but now 412 MHz for 1st generation, 533 MHz [1] for 2nd Generation and ARM Cortex-A8 833 MHz underclocked to 600MHz for 3rd Generation .
# GPU: PowerVR MBX Lite in 2nd Generation[28] and PowerVR SGX GPU for 3rd Generation[citation needed]
# RAM: 128 MB DRAM in 2nd Generation and 256 MB DRAM in 3rd Generation

You only gain 60 MHz going from 2nd to 3rd generation,
though OpenGL intensive apps will gain a lot more with higher speed and 2.0 compatibility, which of course don't matter to iPeng.

I'm looking at getting a used Ipod Touch 8G now when ppl are upgrading - sorry but no jive software wonder in the world would make me jump to a proprietary controller when you can get touch web browsing...