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Roger Mitchell
2004-06-18, 14:30
Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I am using a Dlink 713P Router
with 4 port hub/wireless/firewall already so are you saying that I don't
need a software firewall at all?

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Subject: [slim] Choosing ShoutCast on Squeezebox causes connection loss

dean blackketter wrote:

> Roger,
>
> Glad you figured it out.
>
>> I'd be really interested in any professionals opinions out
>> there.....(cos I'm just a keen amateur!)
>
> My professional opinion is to buy a separate hardware based firewall
> and use that to protect your network. I don't have specific
> make/model to recommend, I haven't found one I think is perfect, but
> Linksys seems to have a good following.

Linksys WRT54G can be had for $70 or less and provides firewall, 4-port
switch and 802.11g wireless. There's also free replacement third-party
firmware that substantially increases the available goodies. (I haven't
upgraded mine just yet, so I can't speak for the alternate firmware) The
good old BEFSR11/BEFSR41 should be getting dirt cheap by now. (no wireless
in that one), though I think the BEFSR still won't stealth port 113.
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Roy M. Silvernail
2004-06-18, 15:01
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 17:30, Roger Mitchell wrote:
> Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I am using a Dlink 713P Router
> with 4 port hub/wireless/firewall already so are you saying that I don't
> need a software firewall at all?

The two do different things, so it's hard to make a grand, sweeping
decision. Your D-Link, when locked down properly, protects you from
outside attacks just as a software firewall does. The software
firewall, however, can also flag and prevent unauthorized outgoing
connections (such as from a trojan or virus that installs a zombie
client). Windows boxes, even well-patched ones, are more succeptible to
that kind of malware, so the extra layer of security can be helpful.
But as you've noticed, they can make other activities difficult.
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Mark Bennett
2004-06-19, 00:42
And of course don't forget that if you have a wireless network
setup inside your hardware firewall then it is possible for a
local hacker to get in this way. It's not so likely as a
internet connection attack, but could see your neighbour using
your internet connection....

A software firewall on each wirelessly connected PC/MAC will
help to pevent this.

Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 17:30, Roger Mitchell wrote:
>
>>Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I am using a Dlink 713P Router
>>with 4 port hub/wireless/firewall already so are you saying that I don't
>>need a software firewall at all?
>
>
> The two do different things, so it's hard to make a grand, sweeping
> decision. Your D-Link, when locked down properly, protects you from
> outside attacks just as a software firewall does. The software
> firewall, however, can also flag and prevent unauthorized outgoing
> connections (such as from a trojan or virus that installs a zombie
> client). Windows boxes, even well-patched ones, are more succeptible to
> that kind of malware, so the extra layer of security can be helpful.
> But as you've noticed, they can make other activities difficult.