PDA

View Full Version : Amplifier/speaker recommendations for SB?



Mike Uhrich
2004-06-17, 14:16
I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html and should
be receiving them Friday. I've read pretty good things about them. Also,
they have both optical and coax digital connections. I'll post my
observations after I give them a good listen.

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Fraser McCrossan
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:11 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Amplifier/speaker recommendations for SB?

Hi all. I'm eagerly awaiting the SB I just ordered, and want to set it
up as a "standalone" system - no other source components. I'm looking
for some recommendations of what quality of amplifier (assuming matched
speakers etc.) will do the SB justice, and above what rough price point
I should stop looking, because the SB source isn't good enough. I have
three basic options:

- high-end computer speakers in the headphone port (probably the worst
option)
- surroundsound receiver/amp in stereo mode, using digital inputs
- older, second-hand amp, using analog inputs

I don't intend to add extra audio or video sources to the system, so
using the analog outputs is fine. I'm swaying towards the 3rd option,
because there seem to be a few good-quality older amps available on
eBay. Will I get better quality on the analog outputs with a 2nd-hand
amp or with a lower-end and newer amp using the digital outputs?

Finally, any specific recommendations of amps that people are using with
good results? I'm particularly interested in those that are physically
small (or at least, thinner than the current crop of massive
amp/receiver combos), to match the form factor of the SB more closely. I
like good quality sound, but I stop well short of being an "audiophile",
if that helps. :-) Basically, I want to get the most out of the SB that
I can afford.

If you like, feel free to e-mail specific recommendations to me directly
rather than to the list. I promise to summarize the responses.

Fraser McCrossan
2004-06-17, 17:23
They look *very* interesting. May I ask where you ordered them from, and
how much they cost?

Mike Uhrich wrote:
> I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html and should
> be receiving them Friday. I've read pretty good things about them. Also,
> they have both optical and coax digital connections. I'll post my
> observations after I give them a good listen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Fraser McCrossan
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:11 PM
> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] Amplifier/speaker recommendations for SB?
>
> Hi all. I'm eagerly awaiting the SB I just ordered, and want to set it
> up as a "standalone" system - no other source components. I'm looking
> for some recommendations of what quality of amplifier (assuming matched
> speakers etc.) will do the SB justice, and above what rough price point
> I should stop looking, because the SB source isn't good enough. I have
> three basic options:
>
> - high-end computer speakers in the headphone port (probably the worst
> option)
> - surroundsound receiver/amp in stereo mode, using digital inputs
> - older, second-hand amp, using analog inputs
>
> I don't intend to add extra audio or video sources to the system, so
> using the analog outputs is fine. I'm swaying towards the 3rd option,
> because there seem to be a few good-quality older amps available on
> eBay. Will I get better quality on the analog outputs with a 2nd-hand
> amp or with a lower-end and newer amp using the digital outputs?
>
> Finally, any specific recommendations of amps that people are using with
> good results? I'm particularly interested in those that are physically
> small (or at least, thinner than the current crop of massive
> amp/receiver combos), to match the form factor of the SB more closely. I
> like good quality sound, but I stop well short of being an "audiophile",
> if that helps. :-) Basically, I want to get the most out of the SB that
> I can afford.
>
> If you like, feel free to e-mail specific recommendations to me directly
> rather than to the list. I promise to summarize the responses.
>
>

Avi Schwartz
2004-06-17, 17:31
On Jun 17, 2004, at 19:23, Fraser McCrossan wrote:

> They look *very* interesting. May I ask where you ordered them from,
> and how much they cost?
>
> Mike Uhrich wrote:
>> I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html and
>> should
>> be receiving them Friday. I've read pretty good things about them.
>> Also,
>> they have both optical and coax digital connections. I'll post my
>> observations after I give them a good listen.
>>

These are the same that I am using. I got them from here:

http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?
form=prodsearch&q=EDIMA20D&submit.x=12&submit.y=3


Avi

Mike Uhrich
2004-06-17, 21:59
I bought them here:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/search/detail/base_id/103780/src=01340
Free shipping and no tax!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Avi Schwartz" <avi (AT) CFFtechnologies (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: [slim] Amplifier/speaker recommendations for SB?


>
> On Jun 17, 2004, at 19:23, Fraser McCrossan wrote:
>
> > They look *very* interesting. May I ask where you ordered them from,
> > and how much they cost?
> >
> > Mike Uhrich wrote:
> >> I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html and
> >> should
> >> be receiving them Friday. I've read pretty good things about them.
> >> Also,
> >> they have both optical and coax digital connections. I'll post my
> >> observations after I give them a good listen.
> >>
>
> These are the same that I am using. I got them from here:
>
> http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?
> form=prodsearch&q=EDIMA20D&submit.x=12&submit.y=3
>
>
> Avi
>
>

Michael Brouwer
2004-06-17, 22:04
Just for the record I know a number of people who are using their
SqueezeBox's as the source for $20000,- plus systems. Personally I use
it as the input to a TacT RCS 2.2X room correction system and a TacT
M2150 Digital AMP. With a pair of Newform Research R645 speakers.

If you using lossless compression or .wav the squeezebox rivals the
quality of several high end megabuck CD transports. So use it for
whatever you are willing to spend on a stereo system.

Michael


On Jun 17, 2004, at 5:31 PM, Avi Schwartz wrote:

>
> On Jun 17, 2004, at 19:23, Fraser McCrossan wrote:
>
>> They look *very* interesting. May I ask where you ordered them from,
>> and how much they cost?
>>
>> Mike Uhrich wrote:
>>> I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html and
>>> should
>>> be receiving them Friday. I've read pretty good things about them.
>>> Also,
>>> they have both optical and coax digital connections. I'll post my
>>> observations after I give them a good listen.
>>>
>
> These are the same that I am using. I got them from here:
>
> http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?
> form=prodsearch&q=EDIMA20D&submit.x=12&submit.y=3
>
>
> Avi
>
>

Andrew W. Donoho
2004-06-20, 11:21
On Jun 17, 2004, at 16:16, Mike Uhrich wrote:

> I ordered these: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ma20d.html

Here is a mini-review I wrote for a friend (Rich Siegel) before they
arrived.

"I bought the MA-20D speakers versus the Klipsch because I wanted good
sound in a smaller package - two speakers versus three was important. I
had not heard either speaker but your friend Dean Blackketter had the
Klipsch's and he liked him. Since I had return privileges at the online
vendor, it only cost me time to try out the MA-20Ds. Also, as a digital
snob, I liked the idea of staying digital all the way to the speakers.
The reduction in noise worked for me with satellite TV and I thought it
would give good results for audio. As a non-audiophile, I am happy with
the result. Also, I was surprised that each speaker is individually
powered. In other words, they are an honest 20W per channel set."

Now that I've had them a good three months, I am still very happy with
them.

I bought them for my office listening. One caveat though, if you listen
to much streaming radio (MP3 < 44.1 KHz sample rate), then the MA-20Ds
have a problem. They do not sync at the lower sample rate. It would be
nice if the SqueezeBox would interpolate to 44.1 KHz sample rates for
lower rate MP3's. OTOH, the MA-20Ds will automatically switch to analog
when the SqueezeBox stops transmitting a digital signal for the lower
sample rate sources. (I'm using the optical interconnect. Therefore the
analog backup allows a potential ground loop path between the
SqueezeBox and the audio electronics. Currently, any ground loop
distortion is imperceptible to me and I may be just subject to mass
hallucination on the need for an optical cable between the digital and
analog realms. ;-) Since I paid $200 plus shipping for the MA-20Ds,
I've now got a decent sound system in my office for under $500 total. I
got what I expected for pretty modest investment. And I get to hang out
with an interesting digerati/technorati crowd...

Andrew

____________________________________
Andrew W. Donoho
awd (AT) DDG (DOT) com, PGP Key ID: 0x81D0F250
+1 (512) 453-6652 (o), +1 (512) 750-7596 (m)