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Chris
2004-06-17, 11:17
Hi,

I've had a squeezebox for a few weeks now, and one of the things that's
driving me crazy is the text input from the numerals on the remote. I'm
totally at home with texting from my Nokia, but what's screwing me is the
squeezebox doesn't *quite* do the same things as my phone.

I guess lots of people with the product have Nokia phones .. would it be
too hard to change the input mechanism so it was the same as we're used to?

I guess the big problem would be the number of people that had gotten used
to the squeezebox way of doing it .. but perhaps if there was a 'nokia
mode' configuration option?

Now you can see in my previous post why I want the IR keyboard to work :-)

Thanks,
Chris.

kdf
2004-06-17, 11:29
text entry, a la nokia, is patented. sadly, since this was already pointed out
in these forums, it makes it impossible to implement without facing legal issues.
-kdf

Quoting Chris <write (AT) tochris (DOT) com>:

> Hi,
>
> I've had a squeezebox for a few weeks now, and one of the things that's
> driving me crazy is the text input from the numerals on the remote. I'm
> totally at home with texting from my Nokia, but what's screwing me is the
> squeezebox doesn't *quite* do the same things as my phone.
>
> I guess lots of people with the product have Nokia phones .. would it be
> too hard to change the input mechanism so it was the same as we're used to?
>
> I guess the big problem would be the number of people that had gotten used
> to the squeezebox way of doing it .. but perhaps if there was a 'nokia
> mode' configuration option?
>
> Now you can see in my previous post why I want the IR keyboard to work :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
>
>

dean
2004-06-17, 11:58
Chris,

The original idea was to match the input of Nokia phones. How is it
different?

On Jun 17, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Chris wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've had a squeezebox for a few weeks now, and one of the things
> that's driving me crazy is the text input from the numerals on the
> remote. I'm totally at home with texting from my Nokia, but what's
> screwing me is the squeezebox doesn't *quite* do the same things as my
> phone.
>
> I guess lots of people with the product have Nokia phones .. would it
> be too hard to change the input mechanism so it was the same as we're
> used to?
>
> I guess the big problem would be the number of people that had gotten
> used to the squeezebox way of doing it .. but perhaps if there was a
> 'nokia mode' configuration option?
>
> Now you can see in my previous post why I want the IR keyboard to work
> :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
>

Philip Meyer
2004-06-17, 15:29
>text entry, a la nokia, is patented. sadly, since this was already pointed out
>in these forums, it makes it impossible to implement without facing legal issues.

Really? My Sony/Ericsson uses predictive text, and I guess lots of other phone manufacturers use predictive text. Are they all using the same system? Do they have to pay a licence fee to Nokia or something? How does the whole thing work legally?

As I see it, it needn't be exactly the same as T7. It wouldn't predict English language, for example that d is most likely to follow an e, etc. In fact, it might be more like pulling up suggestions based on previous entries, like typing a URL in the Internet Explorer address text box.

eg. user enters a couple of characters, then pressing up/down could select from the most-likely matches (based on previous text entries and/or favourite artists/albums/tracks).

Then again, maybe it's all too much effort - a substring search might be just as fast for the user ;)

Phil