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Philip Meyer
2004-06-17, 00:55
I submitted this enhancement request last night. I thought I'd post here too, to see if other people would use the feature or suggest better ways of achieving a similar thing.

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I was wondering if it would be possible to include some options that would
work like Windows Media Player automatic playlists.

These are playlists that are more like rules. Selecting to play such a playlist will recalculate the content of the playlist.

For example, an automatic playlist called "favourite songs" might play all tracks that have been tagged with a 5-star rating.

Other useful automatic playlists might include:
"tracks that have never been played"
"popular tracks" (top <n> most-frequently played tracks)

Initially a set of these auto playlist rules could be hard-coded, but ultimately perhaps some simple settings page could be added to configure these rules (eg. so that <n> in "popular tracks" could be configured to any number). It might be further possible to create new auto playlists, etc (not sure how this would work).

One way to create new auto playlists would be to provide a facility to save a search as an auto playlists, such that when it is
reselected, the search is re-run.

Eg. a user could run a song search for "Love", and save this as an auto playlist. Each time this auto playlist is selected, it would re-run the search, finding all love songs in the database.

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-17, 05:30
6/15 nightly. Using: Apple Lossless, iTunes 4..6, 10.3.4, Airport.

Occasional silent hiccups, loud "pop" or scratch noise between tracks
(not audible in iTunes).

Is anyone else experiencing the noise between tracks with Apple lossless?

Thanks. Mark

dean
2004-06-17, 07:14
Hi Mark,

Vidur found a couple of bugs in the mov123 QuickTime/AAC/Apple Lossless
decoder and checked in a fix yesterday, so the latest nightly build
should improve the situation for you.

Can you grab the latest version and see if it still happens?

Thanks,

dean

On Jun 17, 2004, at 5:30 AM, Mark McIntyre wrote:

> 6/15 nightly. Using: Apple Lossless, iTunes 4..6, 10.3.4, Airport.
>
> Occasional silent hiccups, loud "pop" or scratch noise between tracks
> (not audible in iTunes).
>
> Is anyone else experiencing the noise between tracks with Apple
> lossless?
>
> Thanks. Mark
>

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-17, 19:18
Hi Dean,
Seems to be working beautifully. The noise between tracks is gone, as
are the silent hiccups...well, I've heard one or two of the hiccups,
but need to test more. The Apple Lossless gives great sound. Thanks
for the quick reply and quick fix. The usual amazing quality response
from the SqueezeBox gang.

Question: Is there any way to choose options on the web access page?
For instance, when I click on an album, it lists the songs with
artist first and then song title..I would like the reverse. Not in
the player, but the web control. Seems both iTunes and Squeezebox is
geared towards non-classical music.

In any case, thanks for the quick response and brilliant fix.

MArk

>Hi Mark,
>
>Vidur found a couple of bugs in the mov123 QuickTime/AAC/Apple
>Lossless decoder and checked in a fix yesterday, so the latest
>nightly build should improve the situation for you.
>
>Can you grab the latest version and see if it still happens?
>
>Thanks,
>
>dean

kdf
2004-06-17, 19:26
Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:


> Question: Is there any way to choose options on the web access page?
> For instance, when I click on an album, it lists the songs with
> artist first and then song title..I would like the reverse. Not in
> the player, but the web control. Seems both iTunes and Squeezebox is
> geared towards non-classical music.

This isn't something that is immediately available from a server pref. However,
this is what is designed to be handled by skins. This could be a perfect opening
for someone to make a skin that IS desined around the needs of a classical music
fan :)
-kdf

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-17, 23:44
No problem downloading 6/17 nightly here. No aberrations of note.
Apple LossLess, 10.3.4. iTunes 4.6. Airport.

Sound'n good!
--
Mark McIntyre

http://www.markmcintyre.com
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804.539.1110

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-17, 23:49
>
>This isn't something that is immediately available from a server
>pref. However,
>this is what is designed to be handled by skins. This could be a
>perfect opening
>for someone to make a skin that IS desined around the needs of a
>classical music
>fan :)
>-kdf


Great idea kdf.

Another question:

Would be GREAT to be able to fast forward or fast backwards on the
web access page just as you can do in iTunes. Possible?

kdf
2004-06-18, 00:08
The fishbone skin makes an attempt, there are buttons for 2x in reverse and 4x
ffwd, but its hard to get the timing right from teh web. Unfortunately there is
no way to do more than just one fwd speed and one reverse rate since the skin is
only given fwd and reverse flags. the skin can be set to use different speeds,
but would not be able to give feedback based on what speed is being used.
-kdf

Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:

> >
> >This isn't something that is immediately available from a server
> >pref. However,
> >this is what is designed to be handled by skins. This could be a
> >perfect opening
> >for someone to make a skin that IS desined around the needs of a
> >classical music
> >fan :)
> >-kdf
>
>
> Great idea kdf.
>
> Another question:
>
> Would be GREAT to be able to fast forward or fast backwards on the
> web access page just as you can do in iTunes. Possible?
>
>
>

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-18, 07:51
Noticed one thing on the over install. I'm not sure if it was
a fluke of timing or if some delays have been changed; but the
install was a little slow in killing the service and as such
balked at overwriting slim.exe. Of course just restarting the
install was fine.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

vidurapparao
2004-06-18, 08:02
I'm guessing any delay in killing the service is timing related. The
over install case should work correctly, so let me know if you have a
reproducible case where it doesn't.

I did check in a change yesterday (will show up in the 6/18 build) that
does a better job of handling side-by-side installs. Previously, the
installer wasn't doing a good job of removing the old service and
replacing it with the new one.

--Vidur

Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> Noticed one thing on the over install. I'm not sure if it was
> a fluke of timing or if some delays have been changed; but the
> install was a little slow in killing the service and as such
> balked at overwriting slim.exe. Of course just restarting the
> install was fine.
>

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-18, 10:50
Vidur Apparao wrote:

> I'm guessing any delay in killing the service is timing related. The
> over install case should work correctly, so let me know if you have a
> reproducible case where it doesn't.

Yeah... I think it was probably a fluke. We shall see on the next
nightly.

> I did check in a change yesterday (will show up in the 6/18 build) that
> does a better job of handling side-by-side installs. Previously, the
> installer wasn't doing a good job of removing the old service and
> replacing it with the new one.

That's interesting because I have always assumed it did the right
thing and brings up a point I have been meaning to make for a while.
I think that the version reported on the web interface should be
the exact revision (eg. 5.1.6-6/17) so a person knows precisely
what they are running.

This would eliminate any potential confusion when troubleshooting.
It would also mean I don't have to look back into my installed
directory when I forget which version I am running. :-)


--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-19, 17:01
Gotta say that ROKU looks very sharp! Of course, customer service is
everything, and Squeeze has the best I've experienced....
ttp://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/specs.php

kdf
2004-06-19, 18:17
actually...a shipping product is everything :)

-kdf
Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:

> Gotta say that ROKU looks very sharp! Of course, customer service is
> everything, and Squeeze has the best I've experienced....
> ttp://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/specs.php

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-19, 18:36
>actually...a shipping product is everything :)
>
>-kdf
>Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:

LOL....
Of course, that's what someone else said as i waited for my
squeezebox to ship last December. ; )

dean
2004-06-19, 20:43
On Jun 19, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Mark McIntyre wrote:

>> actually...a shipping product is everything :)
>>
>> -kdf
>> Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:
>
> LOL....
> Of course, that's what someone else said as i waited for my squeezebox
> to ship last December. ; )
>
Sorry about that delay, Mark. In our case, we announced the product
and were shipping it the same day. Unfortunately, we couldn't keep our
production rate up with our orders so we did have a bit of a backlog
for a few weeks there. When I first heard the Roku announcement, it
was supposed to be shipping in February.

Mark McIntyre
2004-06-19, 22:57
>On Jun 19, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Mark McIntyre wrote:
>
>>>actually...a shipping product is everything :)
>>>
>>>-kdf
>>>Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:
>>
>>LOL....
>>Of course, that's what someone else said as i waited for my
>>squeezebox to ship last December. ; )
>>
>Sorry about that delay, Mark. In our case, we announced the product
>and were shipping it the same day. Unfortunately, we couldn't keep
>our production rate up with our orders so we did have a bit of a
>backlog for a few weeks there. When I first heard the Roku
>announcement, it was supposed to be shipping in February.


Just joshin you guys. The Squeeze works great and the service is the
best I've seen in the computer business.
I do love the look of the Roku, but the it's pricey and the customer
service is yet untested. Not to worry.

kdf
2004-06-20, 00:51
ok....well...troll elsewhere then .... ;)
;
Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:

> >actually...a shipping product is everything :)
> >
> >-kdf
> >Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:
>
> LOL....
> Of course, that's what someone else said as i waited for my
> squeezebox to ship last December. ; )
>
>

kdf
2004-06-20, 00:53
Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:

> >On Jun 19, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Mark McIntyre wrote:
> >
> >>>actually...a shipping product is everything :)
> >>>
> >>>-kdf
> >>>Quoting Mark McIntyre <squeeze (AT) markmcintyre (DOT) com>:
> >>
> >>LOL....
> >>Of course, that's what someone else said as i waited for my
> >>squeezebox to ship last December. ; )
> >>
> >Sorry about that delay, Mark. In our case, we announced the product
> >and were shipping it the same day. Unfortunately, we couldn't keep
> >our production rate up with our orders so we did have a bit of a
> >backlog for a few weeks there. When I first heard the Roku
> >announcement, it was supposed to be shipping in February.
>
>
> Just joshin you guys. The Squeeze works great and the service is the
> best I've seen in the computer business.
> I do love the look of the Roku, but the it's pricey and the customer
> service is yet untested. Not to worry.

ok...troll....