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Tim Limon
2004-06-08, 06:34
I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long periods of
time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have the
dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99% and the
memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This happens
daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to evening
surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is more
stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my fan
whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration

Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
512 Meg Ram
120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
Bus Link DVD Drive
Antec Smart Blue power supply
Windows XP SP1
Speed Fan version 4.1.2
Slimserver (v2004-06-03)

MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004

Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?

a bit annoyed and disgruntled,

-- tim

dean
2004-06-08, 08:19
Hi Tim,

I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1 system
streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.

There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.

Some questions:

How big is your music library?
Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
triggers it?



On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:

> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
> periods of
> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have the
> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
> and the
> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
> happens
> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
> evening
> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is more
> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my fan
> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
>
> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
> 512 Meg Ram
> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
> Bus Link DVD Drive
> Antec Smart Blue power supply
> Windows XP SP1
> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
>
> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
>
> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
>
> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
>
> -- tim
>
>
>
>

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_H=FCbner?=
2004-06-08, 12:36
dean blackketter wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1 system
> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
>
> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
>
> Some questions:
>
> How big is your music library?
> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
> triggers it?
>
I have been in contact with Dean before regarding a similar problem. I'm
on WinXP on a Celeron 1,9 ghz with app only 20000 tracks. I am running
June 3 nightly. After a few days, in this case four, my CPU usage peaks
at 100 % without any activities has been taken whatsoever (I have been
away and not using the server at all) and Slim.exe is taking 97 % of that.

I have had this problem since 5.1.5.

/Johan

Tim Limon
2004-06-08, 20:38
Dean,

Thanks for looking into this.

I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.

I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
255,768.

I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via an open
port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll jump back
after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the player.
The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying to cool
the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the display
blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its happened
4 times since in 4 days.

Keep me posted
--tim





"dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> Hi Tim,
>
> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1 system
> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
>
> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
>
> Some questions:
>
> How big is your music library?
> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
> triggers it?
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
>
> > I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
> > periods of
> > time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have the
> > dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
> > and the
> > memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
> > happens
> > daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
> > evening
> > surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is more
> > stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my fan
> > whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
> >
> > Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
> > MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
> > 512 Meg Ram
> > 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
> > Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
> > Bus Link DVD Drive
> > Antec Smart Blue power supply
> > Windows XP SP1
> > Speed Fan version 4.1.2
> > Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
> >
> > MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
> >
> > Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
> >
> > a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
> >
> > -- tim
> >
> >
> >
> >

dean
2004-06-08, 22:03
Tim,

Can you try something for me. From a Windows command line, type:

netstat

and let me know what it returns...

Also, does this happen when listening to songs or radio stations or
both?

-dean

On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Tim Limon wrote:

> Dean,
>
> Thanks for looking into this.
>
> I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.
>
> I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
> 255,768.
>
> I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via
> an open
> port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
> different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll
> jump back
> after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the
> player.
> The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying
> to cool
> the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the
> display
> blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its
> happened
> 4 times since in 4 days.
>
> Keep me posted
> --tim
>
>
>
>
>
> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
> message news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1 system
>> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
>>
>> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
>> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Some questions:
>>
>> How big is your music library?
>> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
>> triggers it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
>>
>>> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
>>> periods of
>>> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have the
>>> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
>>> and the
>>> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
>>> happens
>>> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
>>> evening
>>> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is
>>> more
>>> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my
>>> fan
>>> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
>>>
>>> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
>>> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
>>> 512 Meg Ram
>>> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
>>> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
>>> Bus Link DVD Drive
>>> Antec Smart Blue power supply
>>> Windows XP SP1
>>> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
>>> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
>>>
>>> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
>>>
>>> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
>>>
>>> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
>>>
>>> -- tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Tim Limon
2004-06-09, 06:19
Sure Dean,
Here's the output:

"Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP livingroom:1083 64.236.34.4:http ESTABLISHED
TCP livingroom:3389 100.200.10.10:1074 ESTABLISHED
TCP livingroom:3483 100.200.10.12:31266 ESTABLISHED
TCP livingroom:9000 100.200.10.12:31268 ESTABLISHED

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"

I've only noticed it when using radio stations.

Here's more memory usage info:

fresh reboot
9:47pm 51,660K
10:35pm 61,480K
6:09am 67,028K
6:13am 67,464K

It does look like its creeping up.
--tim


"dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:6672A007-B9D2-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> Tim,
>
> Can you try something for me. From a Windows command line, type:
>
> netstat
>
> and let me know what it returns...
>
> Also, does this happen when listening to songs or radio stations or
> both?
>
> -dean
>
> On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Tim Limon wrote:
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > Thanks for looking into this.
> >
> > I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.
> >
> > I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
> > 255,768.
> >
> > I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via
> > an open
> > port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
> > different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll
> > jump back
> > after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the
> > player.
> > The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying
> > to cool
> > the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the
> > display
> > blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its
> > happened
> > 4 times since in 4 days.
> >
> > Keep me posted
> > --tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote
in
> > message
news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> >> Hi Tim,
> >>
> >> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1 system
> >> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
> >>
> >> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
> >> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
> >>
> >> Some questions:
> >>
> >> How big is your music library?
> >> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
> >> triggers it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
> >>> periods of
> >>> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have the
> >>> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
> >>> and the
> >>> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
> >>> happens
> >>> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
> >>> evening
> >>> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is
> >>> more
> >>> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my
> >>> fan
> >>> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
> >>>
> >>> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
> >>> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
> >>> 512 Meg Ram
> >>> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
> >>> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
> >>> Bus Link DVD Drive
> >>> Antec Smart Blue power supply
> >>> Windows XP SP1
> >>> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
> >>> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
> >>>
> >>> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
> >>>
> >>> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
> >>>
> >>> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
> >>>
> >>> -- tim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

dean
2004-06-09, 10:36
Hi Tim,

One more question... when the server goes into CPU hogging does it
crash or does it lock up or is it still working? (i.e. does the web
interface work, does the music keep playing, is the remote responsive?)

-dean

On Jun 9, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Tim Limon wrote:

> Sure Dean,
> Here's the output:
>
> "Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat
>
> Active Connections
>
> Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
> TCP livingroom:1083 64.236.34.4:http ESTABLISHED
> TCP livingroom:3389 100.200.10.10:1074 ESTABLISHED
> TCP livingroom:3483 100.200.10.12:31266 ESTABLISHED
> TCP livingroom:9000 100.200.10.12:31268 ESTABLISHED
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"
>
> I've only noticed it when using radio stations.
>
> Here's more memory usage info:
>
> fresh reboot
> 9:47pm 51,660K
> 10:35pm 61,480K
> 6:09am 67,028K
> 6:13am 67,464K
>
> It does look like its creeping up.
> --tim
>
>
> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
> message news:6672A007-B9D2-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
>> Tim,
>>
>> Can you try something for me. From a Windows command line, type:
>>
>> netstat
>>
>> and let me know what it returns...
>>
>> Also, does this happen when listening to songs or radio stations or
>> both?
>>
>> -dean
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Tim Limon wrote:
>>
>>> Dean,
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking into this.
>>>
>>> I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.
>>>
>>> I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
>>> 255,768.
>>>
>>> I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via
>>> an open
>>> port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
>>> different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll
>>> jump back
>>> after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the
>>> player.
>>> The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying
>>> to cool
>>> the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the
>>> display
>>> blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its
>>> happened
>>> 4 times since in 4 days.
>>>
>>> Keep me posted
>>> --tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote
> in
>>> message
> news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1
>>>> system
>>>> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
>>>>
>>>> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
>>>> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
>>>>
>>>> Some questions:
>>>>
>>>> How big is your music library?
>>>> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
>>>> triggers it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
>>>>> periods of
>>>>> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have
>>>>> the
>>>>> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
>>>>> and the
>>>>> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
>>>>> happens
>>>>> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
>>>>> evening
>>>>> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is
>>>>> more
>>>>> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my
>>>>> fan
>>>>> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
>>>>>
>>>>> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
>>>>> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
>>>>> 512 Meg Ram
>>>>> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
>>>>> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
>>>>> Bus Link DVD Drive
>>>>> Antec Smart Blue power supply
>>>>> Windows XP SP1
>>>>> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
>>>>> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
>>>>>
>>>>> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
>>>>>
>>>>> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

Tim Limon
2004-06-09, 21:49
Dean,
Server crashes, Squeezebox screen goes blank, remote use triggers the
"Problem: lost connection with slimserver....." On one occasion, I was
unable to use the remote desktop connection, ping the computer or the
squeezebox but that was only once.
--tim

"dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:9B2F6FE4-BA3B-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> Hi Tim,
>
> One more question... when the server goes into CPU hogging does it
> crash or does it lock up or is it still working? (i.e. does the web
> interface work, does the music keep playing, is the remote responsive?)
>
> -dean
>
> On Jun 9, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
>
> > Sure Dean,
> > Here's the output:
> >
> > "Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> > (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
> >
> > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat
> >
> > Active Connections
> >
> > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
> > TCP livingroom:1083 64.236.34.4:http ESTABLISHED
> > TCP livingroom:3389 100.200.10.10:1074 ESTABLISHED
> > TCP livingroom:3483 100.200.10.12:31266 ESTABLISHED
> > TCP livingroom:9000 100.200.10.12:31268 ESTABLISHED
> >
> > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"
> >
> > I've only noticed it when using radio stations.
> >
> > Here's more memory usage info:
> >
> > fresh reboot
> > 9:47pm 51,660K
> > 10:35pm 61,480K
> > 6:09am 67,028K
> > 6:13am 67,464K
> >
> > It does look like its creeping up.
> > --tim
> >
> >
> > "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote
in
> > message
news:6672A007-B9D2-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> >> Tim,
> >>
> >> Can you try something for me. From a Windows command line, type:
> >>
> >> netstat
> >>
> >> and let me know what it returns...
> >>
> >> Also, does this happen when listening to songs or radio stations or
> >> both?
> >>
> >> -dean
> >>
> >> On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Tim Limon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dean,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for looking into this.
> >>>
> >>> I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.
> >>>
> >>> I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
> >>> 255,768.
> >>>
> >>> I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via
> >>> an open
> >>> port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
> >>> different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll
> >>> jump back
> >>> after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the
> >>> player.
> >>> The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying
> >>> to cool
> >>> the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the
> >>> display
> >>> blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its
> >>> happened
> >>> 4 times since in 4 days.
> >>>
> >>> Keep me posted
> >>> --tim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
wrote
> > in
> >>> message
> >
news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> >>>> Hi Tim,
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1
> >>>> system
> >>>> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are having.
> >>>>
> >>>> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by web
> >>>> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some questions:
> >>>>
> >>>> How big is your music library?
> >>>> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
> >>>> triggers it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
> >>>>> periods of
> >>>>> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at 99%
> >>>>> and the
> >>>>> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
> >>>>> happens
> >>>>> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
> >>>>> evening
> >>>>> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my
> >>>>> fan
> >>>>> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
> >>>>> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
> >>>>> 512 Meg Ram
> >>>>> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
> >>>>> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
> >>>>> Bus Link DVD Drive
> >>>>> Antec Smart Blue power supply
> >>>>> Windows XP SP1
> >>>>> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
> >>>>> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- tim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>

Tim Limon
2004-06-09, 22:38
Dean,
More memory leak info:
Tuesday
9:47 pm 51,660K
10:35 pm 61,480K
Wednesday
6:09 am 67,028K
6:30 am 70,016K
9:45 pm 72,152
10:35 pm 76,720K

As you can see it creeps upward slowly. No bomb yet,
--tim


"Tim Limon" <tlimon (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:ca8p8g$4qs$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> Dean,
> Server crashes, Squeezebox screen goes blank, remote use triggers the
> "Problem: lost connection with slimserver....." On one occasion, I was
> unable to use the remote desktop connection, ping the computer or the
> squeezebox but that was only once.
> --tim
>
> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
> message
news:9B2F6FE4-BA3B-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > One more question... when the server goes into CPU hogging does it
> > crash or does it lock up or is it still working? (i.e. does the web
> > interface work, does the music keep playing, is the remote responsive?)
> >
> > -dean
> >
> > On Jun 9, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
> >
> > > Sure Dean,
> > > Here's the output:
> > >
> > > "Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> > > (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
> > >
> > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat
> > >
> > > Active Connections
> > >
> > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
> > > TCP livingroom:1083 64.236.34.4:http ESTABLISHED
> > > TCP livingroom:3389 100.200.10.10:1074 ESTABLISHED
> > > TCP livingroom:3483 100.200.10.12:31266 ESTABLISHED
> > > TCP livingroom:9000 100.200.10.12:31268 ESTABLISHED
> > >
> > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"
> > >
> > > I've only noticed it when using radio stations.
> > >
> > > Here's more memory usage info:
> > >
> > > fresh reboot
> > > 9:47pm 51,660K
> > > 10:35pm 61,480K
> > > 6:09am 67,028K
> > > 6:13am 67,464K
> > >
> > > It does look like its creeping up.
> > > --tim
> > >
> > >
> > > "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
wrote
> in
> > > message
>
news:6672A007-B9D2-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> > >> Tim,
> > >>
> > >> Can you try something for me. From a Windows command line, type:
> > >>
> > >> netstat
> > >>
> > >> and let me know what it returns...
> > >>
> > >> Also, does this happen when listening to songs or radio stations or
> > >> both?
> > >>
> > >> -dean
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Tim Limon wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dean,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for looking into this.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a library of 7388 songs in MP3 format.
> > >>>
> > >>> I checked the memory at about 7 pm it was 161,732, by 8:30 pm it was
> > >>> 255,768.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't do anything specific. I do listen to my library at work via
> > >>> an open
> > >>> port on my router. I use the Quick Access plug-in to jump around to
> > >>> different stations. Some of the stations are off the air, so I'll
> > >>> jump back
> > >>> after a few seconds. It usually happens when I'm nowhere near the
> > >>> player.
> > >>> The music stops, the speedfan application goes into high gear trying
> > >>> to cool
> > >>> the hot CPU. I'll notice the whine when I walk by and then see the
> > >>> display
> > >>> blank. I use remote desktop to monitor once in a while. So far its
> > >>> happened
> > >>> 4 times since in 4 days.
> > >>>
> > >>> Keep me posted
> > >>> --tim
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
> wrote
> > > in
> > >>> message
> > >
>
news:4D1E4DD8-B95F-11D8-8E8F-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> > >>>> Hi Tim,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I haven't seen this problem before, but I've started my XP SP1
> > >>>> system
> > >>>> streaming that station to try to reproduce the issue you are
having.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There was one memory leak problem in 5.1.5 that was triggered by
web
> > >>>> interface usage, but it's been resolved as far as I can tell.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Some questions:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How big is your music library?
> > >>>> Does the memory use grow constantly or is there some activity that
> > >>>> triggers it?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Tim Limon wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I've been struggling with keeping the slim server stable for long
> > >>>>> periods of
> > >>>>> time. I've used 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.6 (v2004-06-03) and still have
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> dreaded memory bloat issue. The server will peg my processor at
99%
> > >>>>> and the
> > >>>>> memory will reach 350 megs. I run it on a dedicated XP box. This
> > >>>>> happens
> > >>>>> daily (usually in the evenings when the streams get flaky due to
> > >>>>> evening
> > >>>>> surfers) when listening to shoutcast streams. The v2004-06-03 is
> > >>>>> more
> > >>>>> stable, but bombs with an undesirable failure mode (Gee, why is my
> > >>>>> fan
> > >>>>> whinnnning?). Is there any hope for me? Here's my configuration
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Intel P4 1.8GHz (not overclocked)
> > >>>>> MSI 845 Ultra Mobo
> > >>>>> 512 Meg Ram
> > >>>>> 120 GB Seagate Ultra ATA Drive
> > >>>>> Chaintech (NVidia) MX440
> > >>>>> Bus Link DVD Drive
> > >>>>> Antec Smart Blue power supply
> > >>>>> Windows XP SP1
> > >>>>> Speed Fan version 4.1.2
> > >>>>> Slimserver (v2004-06-03)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> MP3 stream http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/2004
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is there *ANY* server version that is stable for weeks, not hours?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> a bit annoyed and disgruntled,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- tim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-11, 19:20
OK I'm running into this too.

I upgraded to SlimServer_v2004-06-03 from SlimServer_v2004-05-19
about a week ago and have just got around to using it a fair bit
over the last few days.

I am running WinXP Pro fully patched on an XP2200+ with a gig of
RAM. Since this is a reasonable amount of horsepower I don't know
when it started but I just noticed when I tried to access the web
interface locally and did not get a connection.

I looked at the processes and slim.exe was at 99% consuming ~130MB
of RAM but bouncing around. After a few minutes of examination
(and still no web interface connection) it crept up to ~150MB
memory and then died by itself. A shoutcast stream was playing
on my Squeezebox upstairs at the time.

Definitely a blocker bug that does not appear to be on Vidur's
list. Has anyone filed it yet? I can try a new nightly but
as far as I can see in this thread the problem has not yet been
fixed.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_H=FCbner?=
2004-06-12, 03:25
Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> OK I'm running into this too.
>
> I upgraded to SlimServer_v2004-06-03 from SlimServer_v2004-05-19
> about a week ago and have just got around to using it a fair bit
> over the last few days.
>
> I am running WinXP Pro fully patched on an XP2200+ with a gig of
> RAM. Since this is a reasonable amount of horsepower I don't know
> when it started but I just noticed when I tried to access the web
> interface locally and did not get a connection.
>
> I looked at the processes and slim.exe was at 99% consuming ~130MB
> of RAM but bouncing around. After a few minutes of examination
> (and still no web interface connection) it crept up to ~150MB
> memory and then died by itself. A shoutcast stream was playing
> on my Squeezebox upstairs at the time.
>
> Definitely a blocker bug that does not appear to be on Vidur's
> list. Has anyone filed it yet? I can try a new nightly but
> as far as I can see in this thread the problem has not yet been
> fixed.
>
This description is exactly the problems I'm having. This is not a
memory leak in so far as my server does have plenty of free memory. It
is that slim.exe slowly eats more and more resources.

This bug should be filed on Vidurs list. Since I have no BugZilla
account I have not done it myself.

/Johan

kdf
2004-06-12, 04:41
Quoting Johan Hübner <johan (AT) hubner (DOT) se>:


> This description is exactly the problems I'm having. This is not a
> memory leak in so far as my server does have plenty of free memory. It
> is that slim.exe slowly eats more and more resources.
>
> This bug should be filed on Vidurs list. Since I have no BugZilla
> account I have not done it myself.
>
Anyone can create an account for themselves to post a new bug, and make comments
on any bug. The only limits are for changing status or clearing a bug. Only
the original reporter or a select list of developers can change status or close
a bug. Vidur will review new bugs and mark them as blockers if requested.

-kdf

dean
2004-06-12, 07:09
Daryle,

Yesterday we fixed a couple of bugs in the web interface that could
cause broken connections as well as repair at least one memory leak.

Can you try installing the latest nightly:

<http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest>

And let us know if it resolves your problem?


Thanks,

dean

On Jun 11, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> OK I'm running into this too.
>
> I upgraded to SlimServer_v2004-06-03 from SlimServer_v2004-05-19
> about a week ago and have just got around to using it a fair bit
> over the last few days.
>
> I am running WinXP Pro fully patched on an XP2200+ with a gig of
> RAM. Since this is a reasonable amount of horsepower I don't know
> when it started but I just noticed when I tried to access the web
> interface locally and did not get a connection.
>
> I looked at the processes and slim.exe was at 99% consuming ~130MB
> of RAM but bouncing around. After a few minutes of examination
> (and still no web interface connection) it crept up to ~150MB
> memory and then died by itself. A shoutcast stream was playing
> on my Squeezebox upstairs at the time.
>
> Definitely a blocker bug that does not appear to be on Vidur's
> list. Has anyone filed it yet? I can try a new nightly but
> as far as I can see in this thread the problem has not yet been
> fixed.
>
> --
> Daryle A. Tilroe
>
>

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-12, 11:53
dean blackketter wrote:

> Yesterday we fixed a couple of bugs in the web interface that could
> cause broken connections as well as repair at least one memory leak.
>
> Can you try installing the latest nightly:
>
> <http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest>
>
> And let us know if it resolves your problem?

Will do; although I don't have a reliable way to reproduce
the bug I can watch the memory. Overnight it has crept up
to 87 MB while the CPU usage is still normal.


--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-12, 19:08
Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
> dean blackketter wrote:
>
>> Yesterday we fixed a couple of bugs in the web interface that could
>> cause broken connections as well as repair at least one memory leak.
>>
>> Can you try installing the latest nightly:
>>
>> And let us know if it resolves your problem?
>
> Will do; although I don't have a reliable way to reproduce
> the bug I can watch the memory.

Well bad news: after 5.5 hours slim.exe has hung. This time
it didn't die and the memory didn't leak but the cpu is
pegged at around 80-90% and it is completely unresponsive
to either a player (squeezebox or softsqueeze) or the web
interface.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-06-12, 19:12
Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> pegged at around 80-90% and it is completely unresponsive

Followup: it is still actually at 99% after I killed the
looping softsqueeze.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

dean
2004-06-12, 19:43
Thanks for the report. Vidur was able to reproduce and fix a CPU
hogging bug this afternoon! I've updated the nightly builds:

http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest

If you can try downloading that and see if you can reproduce, that
would be great.

Thanks,

dean


On Jun 12, 2004, at 7:08 PM, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
>> dean blackketter wrote:
>>> Yesterday we fixed a couple of bugs in the web interface that could
>>> cause broken connections as well as repair at least one memory leak.
>>>
>>> Can you try installing the latest nightly:
>>>
>>> And let us know if it resolves your problem?
>> Will do; although I don't have a reliable way to reproduce
>> the bug I can watch the memory.
>
> Well bad news: after 5.5 hours slim.exe has hung. This time
> it didn't die and the memory didn't leak but the cpu is
> pegged at around 80-90% and it is completely unresponsive
> to either a player (squeezebox or softsqueeze) or the web
> interface.
>
> --
> Daryle A. Tilroe
>
>

Denny Page
2004-06-13, 01:25
Delurk.

This appears to fix the cpu free run problem, at least for me. However, I
have
an issue which I previously thought to be related, but now appears not to be
the case.

The windows GUI (desktop icon) takes a long time (60 seconds) to start with
nightly 2004-06-11 and 2004-06-12. I was previously using 2004-06-07, which
had the expected 2-3 second start time for the gui. The browser interface
(http://localhost:9000) still has 2-3 second start time.

I have filed a bug report (# 369).

Anyone else noticed this?

Denny

----- Original Message -----
From: "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 19:43
Subject: [slim] 99% CPU Usage?


> Thanks for the report. Vidur was able to reproduce and fix a CPU
> hogging bug this afternoon! I've updated the nightly builds:
>
> http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest
>
> If you can try downloading that and see if you can reproduce, that
> would be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dean

Ken
2004-06-13, 10:04
I been experiencing the long startup time on the last few day's nightly builds, including the one from late last night. However, accessing the server using my browser (Firefox) and localhost:9000 is instantaneous.

Ken

Denny Page wrote:
> Delurk.
>
> This appears to fix the cpu free run problem, at least for me. However, I
> have
> an issue which I previously thought to be related, but now appears not to be
> the case.
>
> The windows GUI (desktop icon) takes a long time (60 seconds) to start with
> nightly 2004-06-11 and 2004-06-12. I was previously using 2004-06-07, which
> had the expected 2-3 second start time for the gui. The browser interface
> (http://localhost:9000) still has 2-3 second start time.
>
> I have filed a bug report (# 369).
>
> Anyone else noticed this?
>
> Denny
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 19:43
> Subject: [slim] 99% CPU Usage?
>
>
>
>>Thanks for the report. Vidur was able to reproduce and fix a CPU
>>hogging bug this afternoon! I've updated the nightly builds:
>>
>>http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest
>>
>>If you can try downloading that and see if you can reproduce, that
>>would be great.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>dean

Denny Page
2004-06-13, 18:18
Ken,

Thanks for the confirmation of the gui problem.

However, now I'm curious what you meant by instantaneous... under 1/4
second? Reason that I ask is that even with a totally idle system, I see
local browser startup at over 1 second. The 1-2 second browser start up
didn't concern me until you said "instantaneous" :-)

Denny


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <sqz (AT) lemmingstothesea (DOT) com>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:04
Subject: [slim] 99% CPU Usage?


> I been experiencing the long startup time on the last few day's nightly
builds, including the one from late last night. However, accessing the
server using my browser (Firefox) and localhost:9000 is instantaneous.
>
> Ken
>
> Denny Page wrote:
> > Delurk.
> >
> > This appears to fix the cpu free run problem, at least for me. However,
I
> > have
> > an issue which I previously thought to be related, but now appears not
to be
> > the case.
> >
> > The windows GUI (desktop icon) takes a long time (60 seconds) to start
with
> > nightly 2004-06-11 and 2004-06-12. I was previously using 2004-06-07,
which
> > had the expected 2-3 second start time for the gui. The browser
interface
> > (http://localhost:9000) still has 2-3 second start time.
> >
> > I have filed a bug report (# 369).
> >
> > Anyone else noticed this?
> >
> > Denny

Roy M. Silvernail
2004-06-13, 18:44
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:18, Denny Page wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Thanks for the confirmation of the gui problem.
>
> However, now I'm curious what you meant by instantaneous... under 1/4
> second? Reason that I ask is that even with a totally idle system, I see
> local browser startup at over 1 second. The 1-2 second browser start up
> didn't concern me until you said "instantaneous" :-)

1-2 seconds is nothing to worry about. For a Windows desktop, that 2
second startup is in the noise at the bottom of the graph. The only way
I know of to beat that would be to preload the app, hide the main window
and just show it when the tray icon is clicked. At that, you'd still
have a few seconds' delay the first time you load. And if the app
swapped to disc since the last time you used it...
--
Roy M. Silvernail is roy (AT) rant-central (DOT) com, and you're not
"Progress, like reality, is not optional." - R. A. Hettinga
SpamAssassin->procmail->/dev/null->bliss
http://www.rant-central.com

Ken
2004-06-13, 18:54
Denny,

If you mean actual browser startup, that varies for me and I didn't mean to include that when I characterized the load time as instantaneous. What I meant was that there is no delay when loading the slim server home page beyond what the little server is capable of delivering and the browser is capable rendering. Total time for the home page load is under 1 second from request to a fully rendered page, which is what I considered as essentially instantaneous.

For reference, I use a 3 Ghz Pentium machine with lots of memory, and I use the Firefox web browser.

Ken

Denny Page wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Thanks for the confirmation of the gui problem.
>
> However, now I'm curious what you meant by instantaneous... under 1/4
> second? Reason that I ask is that even with a totally idle system, I see
> local browser startup at over 1 second. The 1-2 second browser start up
> didn't concern me until you said "instantaneous" :-)
>
> Denny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken" <sqz (AT) lemmingstothesea (DOT) com>
> To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:04
> Subject: [slim] 99% CPU Usage?
>
>
>
>>I been experiencing the long startup time on the last few day's nightly
>
> builds, including the one from late last night. However, accessing the
> server using my browser (Firefox) and localhost:9000 is instantaneous.
>
>>Ken
>>
>>Denny Page wrote:
>>
>>>Delurk.
>>>
>>>This appears to fix the cpu free run problem, at least for me. However,
>
> I
>
>>>have
>>>an issue which I previously thought to be related, but now appears not
>
> to be
>
>>>the case.
>>>
>>>The windows GUI (desktop icon) takes a long time (60 seconds) to start
>
> with
>
>>>nightly 2004-06-11 and 2004-06-12. I was previously using 2004-06-07,
>
> which
>
>>>had the expected 2-3 second start time for the gui. The browser
>
> interface
>
>>>(http://localhost:9000) still has 2-3 second start time.
>>>
>>>I have filed a bug report (# 369).
>>>
>>>Anyone else noticed this?
>>>
>>>Denny

Denny Page
2004-06-13, 21:34
Ken,

I didn't include browser window launch time either. Just time between
hitting enter on the typed url (or reload) and the page being fully
rendered. IE and FireFox render at about the same speed. I'm running dual
2.2 xeon, ht enabled, with 3.5 gb--fairly sure it wasn't due to lack of
horsepower :-)

I did some more experimenting and believe I might know why we see a
difference. The last view is remembered by the server (cookies). My
default view is "Browse Albums", which is quite slow presumably due to the
number of entries in the list. If I use "Saved Playlists", which only has a
few entries, I do see sub 1 second render time.

Thanks,

Denny


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <sqz (AT) lemmingstothesea (DOT) com>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 18:54
Subject: [slim] 99% CPU Usage?


> Denny,
>
> If you mean actual browser startup, that varies for me and I didn't mean
to include that when I characterized the load time as instantaneous. What I
meant was that there is no delay when loading the slim server home page
beyond what the little server is capable of delivering and the browser is
capable rendering. Total time for the home page load is under 1 second from
request to a fully rendered page, which is what I considered as essentially
instantaneous.
>
> For reference, I use a 3 Ghz Pentium machine with lots of memory, and I
use the Firefox web browser.
>
> Ken

Tim Limon
2004-06-14, 06:38
Dean and team,
Thanks for the diligence. The 2004-06-12 fixed the 99% CPU issue and the
slow memory leak. All seems to be fine except the Slim.exe UI takes about
10 seconds to come up (used to come up within 1-2 seconds after the splash
screen). This is manageable since I can use IE to do the same things.

Great job guys!
--tim

"dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:2AE094A8-BC7A-11D8-A154-000393DB3CFA (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com...
> Daryle,
>
> Yesterday we fixed a couple of bugs in the web interface that could
> cause broken connections as well as repair at least one memory leak.
>
> Can you try installing the latest nightly:
>
> <http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest>
>
> And let us know if it resolves your problem?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> dean
>
> On Jun 11, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
>
> > OK I'm running into this too.
> >
> > I upgraded to SlimServer_v2004-06-03 from SlimServer_v2004-05-19
> > about a week ago and have just got around to using it a fair bit
> > over the last few days.
> >
> > I am running WinXP Pro fully patched on an XP2200+ with a gig of
> > RAM. Since this is a reasonable amount of horsepower I don't know
> > when it started but I just noticed when I tried to access the web
> > interface locally and did not get a connection.
> >
> > I looked at the processes and slim.exe was at 99% consuming ~130MB
> > of RAM but bouncing around. After a few minutes of examination
> > (and still no web interface connection) it crept up to ~150MB
> > memory and then died by itself. A shoutcast stream was playing
> > on my Squeezebox upstairs at the time.
> >
> > Definitely a blocker bug that does not appear to be on Vidur's
> > list. Has anyone filed it yet? I can try a new nightly but
> > as far as I can see in this thread the problem has not yet been
> > fixed.
> >
> > --
> > Daryle A. Tilroe
> >
> >