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Cape11
2009-06-10, 01:47
My NAS is a ReadyNAS PRO; it has Wake On LAN capability.

I first assumed that all I'd have to do to turn on the PRO remotely was to turn on any SB.

But a SB doesn't appear to do this. On first power-up the SB makes its network connection and then tries to connect to SC, but because the PRO is off it makes no connection. However, if you wait until the SB has failed to make the connection to a 'dead' PRO and then press the On/Off button on the remote controller, the SB display says 'Wake up SqueezeCenter' (or something like this - definitely with the word Wake in the line) and the PRO starts up.

That's a perfectly acceptable way of operating - it means that if you have a SB integrated into a hi-fi system where there are other sound sources, the PRO doesn't start every time you turn the hi-fi on, but can be arranged to turn on when you want it.

But is this feature mentioned an any manual anywhere, and have I understood everything about this 'feature'?

aubuti
2009-06-10, 06:38
But is this feature mentioned an any manual anywhere, and have I understood everything about this 'feature'?
Often one hears the expression "It's not a bug, it's a feature." But this time it's the other way around. It's a known issue, and there are two related bugs/enhancement requests, although it's not clear that either are being worked on at present. Nor is it clear that if these are resolved that they will also resolve the related issue that you describe. You can vote for these bugs/enhancement requests, and apparently votes really do matter in setting priorities for development.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10695

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10191

jo-wie
2009-06-10, 07:40
That's a perfectly acceptable way of operating - it means that if you have a SB integrated into a hi-fi system where there are other sound sources, the PRO doesn't start every time you turn the hi-fi on, but can be arranged to turn on when you want it.

But is this feature mentioned an any manual anywhere, and have I understood everything about this 'feature'?

I use this feature in the same way as you describe it, my SB3 is connected to my AV receiver switched power socket and I do not need the SC server to be powered on when I watch TV.

You can already press the power button to send a WoL packet when the SB3 shows the connectin to SC message.

To send a WoL packet when the SB is switched from SN to SC makes sense, but it should not affect the current behavior when it is powered on.

gorman
2009-06-10, 09:13
Strange, what I experience is:

Server on standby, press power on the remote, "Waking up server" message, wait, wait, wait, Squeezebox is connected to Squeezecenter but in "off" state. Another power press is required to turn it on.

This assuming that the SB was off when the server went to sleep, it basically comes back the way it was when the server went into standby. I feel it should turn on anyway.
I would say there are far fewer cases when one would use a Squeezebox remote just to wake up a server remotely than there are of somebody turning on a Squeezebox because he wants to use it to listen to some music.

Cape11
2009-06-15, 16:13
I'm coming around to being perfectly happy with the way the SB3 handles WoL. Gorman: what you desribe is exactly the same as I experience - I think - perhaps I didn't make it clear.

It means I can be selective in the way I use my hi-fi and perhaps alternate between SN and SC without any unecessary use of the NAS; the NAS can be off and saving power for much longer with this way of working.

I've now programmed my Philips Pronto to 'push' the correct SB3 buttons as and when required - now all I have to do is wait (im)patiently for the NAS to start SC (60 S. There might be ways of improving this operation as well if I give it a little more thought.

Looks like the Duet could do with a bug fix though - but I haven't got one of those.

Cape11
2009-06-16, 01:51
I raised the issue about the apparent non-functioning of WoL in the ReadyNAS PRO (well, of course, it does work!) and I received this link about the operation of the Squeezebox products. This may prove useful:

https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/WOL#How_do_I_activate_the_WoL_feature_on_Squeezebo x.3F

(As you can see from this, the Duet does not handle WoL).

rgreening
2009-06-16, 06:23
Hi, Does the SliMp3 send WOL commands or is it to primative to do this?

Thanks

Richard

Cape11
2009-06-16, 12:14
I can't answer that. I don't use any mp3 files, sorry.

The font of knowledge that solved my PRO SC clean-up add-on and gave the link I referenced above was usbethjim (same monica here and on Netgear - hadn't realised). Perhaps he, or someone else, knows this sytem?

jo-wie
2009-06-16, 12:53
Hi, Does the SliMp3 send WOL commands or is it to primative to do this?

SLIMP3 do not support WoL

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HardwareComparison

epoch1970
2009-06-16, 13:50
I raised the issue about the apparent non-functioning of WoL in the ReadyNAS PRO (well, of course, it does work!) and I received this link about the operation of the Squeezebox products. This may prove useful:

https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/WOL#How_do_I_activate_the_WoL_feature_on_Squeezebo x.3F

(As you can see from this, the Duet does not handle WoL).

You're not reading correctly the wiki table: the Duet will wake-up from IR (there is no IR eye in the SBR). But it will send wol packets when you press buttons on the Controller, or the "fan" button on the Receiver.

I have a Duet, I assure you I remember the day this started working :)

(And, I agree with you: for me 2 quick presses to "right" or "power" are very easy when I want to wake the server. And *sometimes* I like to start the SB3 -or Boom-, left it fail to connect and then press 'left' to configure locally connection to SN, all without waking the server.)