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jmcnamara@mac.com
2004-05-24, 21:48
My squeezebox wireless has not even arrived yet but I've managed to
play around quite a bit with slimserver (on my G5) and softsqueeze (on
my iBook). The thing is I'd prefer not to run the G5 24x7 and it's not
clear from my searching if the squeezebox can send wake-on-lan packets
(can it?).

I was thinking that a small server could be a good solution, and that I
could also use it for periodic network backups. The stuff I'm looking
for is:

1) small, quiet, cool
2) 100baseT
3) iTunes support (I guess this means windows, not linux)
4) relatively inexpensive
5) fast enough to do some transcoding (and not have xp burden it too
much if that's what's needed for #3)

I've built a few shuttle systems for friends (amd athlon based) but I'm
looking for something quieter/cooler/cheaper. Any suggestions? I've
already got a kvm switch so it doesn't need to be headless. I'd prefer
to run linux, but my music collection is about 95% iTunes/AAC-based so
it seems that could be a problem.

--
John

Andrew W. Donoho
2004-05-25, 03:26
On May 24, 2004, at 23:48, jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com wrote:
> 3) iTunes support (I guess this means windows, not linux)
>

This only means Windows if you have a large number of protected music
files. Otherwise, Linux is a fine solution for iTunes repositories.

Andrew

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Brian Gist
2004-05-25, 07:38
If you want to be creative and a bit handy ... and you have a rack to
mount the server in ...

You can pick up an inexpensive old iMac, and a new HDD for it ... and
the folks over at marathon computer have this rack mount kit for old
iMacs ... it turns them into a 1U server.
http://marathoncomputer.com/irac.html

If you dont have a rack, then just any old iMac will do. Usually your
local computer store that sells macs that isn't an apple store has the
lowest prices on old hardware. prices on ebay can be downright silly.

Since old iMacs don't have fans, I figure those meet all the
requirements ... except fast. But you can upgrade them to fast G3s
with the harmoni card from sonnettech. *shrug* Its an idea.


Otherwise, if its just to be a server

On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:48:50 -0400, jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com <jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> My squeezebox wireless has not even arrived yet but I've managed to
> play around quite a bit with slimserver (on my G5) and softsqueeze (on
> my iBook). The thing is I'd prefer not to run the G5 24x7 and it's not
> clear from my searching if the squeezebox can send wake-on-lan packets
> (can it?).
>
> I was thinking that a small server could be a good solution, and that I
> could also use it for periodic network backups. The stuff I'm looking
> for is:
>
> 1) small, quiet, cool
> 2) 100baseT
> 3) iTunes support (I guess this means windows, not linux)
> 4) relatively inexpensive
> 5) fast enough to do some transcoding (and not have xp burden it too
> much if that's what's needed for #3)
>
> I've built a few shuttle systems for friends (amd athlon based) but I'm
> looking for something quieter/cooler/cheaper. Any suggestions? I've
> already got a kvm switch so it doesn't need to be headless. I'd prefer
> to run linux, but my music collection is about 95% iTunes/AAC-based so
> it seems that could be a problem.
>
> --
> John
>
>

S. Ben Melhuish
2004-05-25, 08:59
jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com wrote:

> 1) small, quiet, cool
> 2) 100baseT
> 3) iTunes support (I guess this means windows, not linux)
> 4) relatively inexpensive
> 5) fast enough to do some transcoding (and not have xp burden it too
> much if that's what's needed for #3)
>
> I've built a few shuttle systems for friends (amd athlon based) but I'm
> looking for something quieter/cooler/cheaper. Any suggestions? I've
> already got a kvm switch so it doesn't need to be headless. I'd prefer
> to run linux, but my music collection is about 95% iTunes/AAC-based so
> it seems that could be a problem.

I picked up a used Cube a little while back and added a quiet external
Firewire drive. It meets 1-3 and 5 very nicely. Its compliance with 4
varies greatly, depending on your definition of "inexpensive" and what
you're able to find and how much work it needs (e.g. mine had OS 9.1
installed). You could certainly do worse than that. Another option
might be an old-ish Mac (or Windows) laptop.

On the off chance you haven't discovered this yet, note that
Slimserver/Squeezebox don't support DRM-protected AAC files from the
iTunes music store (.m4p files).

-- S. Ben Melhuish

Daniel Cohen
2004-05-25, 09:46
On 25/5/04 at 12:48 am -0400, jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com wrote
>it's not clear from my searching if the squeezebox can send
>wake-on-lan packets (can it?).

As far as I know, it can't. But it would be a good idea if it could be added.
--
Daniel Cohen

Brian Gist
2004-05-25, 10:37
Actually, the squeezebox/slimserver does suppor the aac encoded files.
The problem lies in iTunes 4.5. Don't install iTunes 4.5 and
everything is good. I currently have a computer with QT 6 and iTunes
4.0.x and everything works on that one.



On Tue, 25 May 2004 08:59:47 -0700, S. Ben Melhuish <sben (AT) pile (DOT) org> wrote:
>
> jmcnamara (AT) mac (DOT) com wrote:
>
> > 1) small, quiet, cool
> > 2) 100baseT
> > 3) iTunes support (I guess this means windows, not linux)
> > 4) relatively inexpensive
> > 5) fast enough to do some transcoding (and not have xp burden it too
> > much if that's what's needed for #3)
> >
> > I've built a few shuttle systems for friends (amd athlon based) but I'm
> > looking for something quieter/cooler/cheaper. Any suggestions? I've
> > already got a kvm switch so it doesn't need to be headless. I'd prefer
> > to run linux, but my music collection is about 95% iTunes/AAC-based so
> > it seems that could be a problem.
>
> I picked up a used Cube a little while back and added a quiet external
> Firewire drive. It meets 1-3 and 5 very nicely. Its compliance with 4
> varies greatly, depending on your definition of "inexpensive" and what
> you're able to find and how much work it needs (e.g. mine had OS 9.1
> installed). You could certainly do worse than that. Another option
> might be an old-ish Mac (or Windows) laptop.
>
> On the off chance you haven't discovered this yet, note that
> Slimserver/Squeezebox don't support DRM-protected AAC files from the
> iTunes music store (.m4p files).
>
> -- S. Ben Melhuish
>
>
>