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jaysung
2009-03-24, 00:54
Hello,
A friend of mine runs a business which is about hifi and home cinema. He has a customer who has:
a 40 inch Sony tft display where he uses to watch movies.
A decent hifi system where he now listens to cds.
He will drop his cds all together and
He will buy a ripping station with SC7 on it and a transporter if:
He can sit back in his easy chair and
- browse album art (preferably in iphonish cover flow fashion on his fancy tft screen in full size, select the album he wants and make the transporter play it.
The ripping part of it is well solved. The device rips cds automatically and even gets the so wanted album art in most cases.
We could add a computer running SC7 to the setup.
The thing I can not solve is:
How is the computer i.e the sc7 interface navigated in a way so that the said customer does not need to care if he has a computer in his hifi rack?
I am looking for something wireless. Perhaps something that even works without opening a web browser?
Have looked at moose.
Any ideas?
Cause if I present a good solution my friend might consider asking me an other time. ;))

pippin
2009-03-24, 01:41
Hello,
A friend of mine runs a business which is about hifi and home cinema. He has a customer who has:
a 40 inch Sony tft display where he uses to watch movies.
A decent hifi system where he now listens to cds.
He will drop his cds all together and
He will buy a ripping station with SC7 on it and a transporter if:
He can sit back in his easy chair and
- browse album art (preferably in iphonish cover flow fashion on his fancy tft screen in full size, select the album he wants and make the transporter play it.
The ripping part of it is well solved. The device rips cds automatically and even gets the so wanted album art in most cases.
We could add a computer running SC7 to the setup.
The thing I can not solve is:
How is the computer i.e the sc7 interface navigated in a way so that the said customer does not need to care if he has a computer in his hifi rack?
I am looking for something wireless. Perhaps something that even works without opening a web browser?
Have looked at moose.
Any ideas?
Cause if I present a good solution my friend might consider asking me an other time. ;))
Squeezebox Controller?
iPeng?

simbo
2009-03-24, 02:40
- browse album art (preferably in iphonish cover flow fashion on his fancy tft screen in full size, select the album he wants and make the transporter play it.
I was working on a cover-flow-esque interface a while back that ran full-screen on my TV (see image below)... but when the Controller/SqueezePlay came out it kind of made it redundant (3D's cool but not vital), so I stopped working on it. Full post here (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45158) if you're interested.

autopilot
2009-03-24, 03:06
I was working on a cover-flow-esque interface a while back that ran full-screen on my TV (see image below)... but when the Controller/SqueezePlay came out it kind of made it redundant (3D's cool but not vital), so I stopped working on it. Full post here (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45158) if you're interested.

Your time would be better spent doing something about that wallpaper.



(joke, actually that 3d browser looks quite nice - would make a nice SP plugin :))

jaysung
2009-03-24, 03:19
Hello,
using a squeezebox controller would be an option but I wonder if the display is big enough. I imagine a person who is perhaps a bit aged and has trouble reading the display without his glases.
Haven't any clue about the real world user experience with the controller (I am fully blind myself) but a 40 inch lcd is a different story isn't it?
The tp costs about 2k bugs and the ripnas will go for an other 1k. So money isn't an object as long as he's got the album art and a really blowing user experience.
btw. How do you guys get album art? There is a feature in SC7.3?
Ripnas is claimed to do that as well but I read that it doesn't always get the covers right.
Any hints on getting album art would be apreciated as well.
Thanks
PS.: Will take a look a ipeng. But it is an iphone's app isn't it? So the display isn't any bigger?

simbo
2009-03-24, 03:21
Your time would be better spent doing something about that wallpaper.
He he... tell me about it - we'd only moved in a few months before that picture was taken... and we still haven't got round to redecorating!

pippin
2009-03-24, 03:30
PS.: Will take a look a ipeng. But it is an iphone's app isn't it? So the display isn't any bigger?

It's 3.5", I believe, about twice the size of the controller's. You want to use the iPod touch instead of the phone as a controller, of course.

Size: Well, depends. Of course a 20" LCD is something else, but then your are sitting further away from that one. Plus with a portable device you don't have to sit in front of the screen.

Both the Controller and iPeng don't currently have something like CoverFlow, yet, only fullscreen artwork on NowPlaying and small covers on the albums lists.

simbo
2009-03-24, 04:07
btw. How do you guys get album art? There is a feature in SC7.3?
Ripnas is claimed to do that as well but I read that it doesn't always get the covers right.
Any hints on getting album art would be apreciated as well.

SqueezeCenter won't get album art for you, you need to tag it yourself. Personally I use MediaMonkey after ripping, others use tools that automatically obtain album art while ripping (e.g. dBpoweramp).

jaysung
2009-03-24, 04:44
Yep, it is dbpoweramp which is working in ripnas. So anyone about dbpoweramp and it's reliability with covers?
What about an ipod touch? 3.5 inch screen ?
Could someone think about a convertible netbook with a touch screen?
Which skin would you use? Sleek, and quite simple not too much black text one white screens?
Don't get me wrong. SC7 works OK for a blind person but is it sexy by the looks?
How to dress the baby to enhance it's sex apeal?

simbo
2009-03-24, 05:54
Could someone think about a convertible netbook with a touch screen?
How about a Nokia tablet (N700/N770/N800/N810)?

iPhone
2009-03-24, 07:52
Yep, it is dbpoweramp which is working in ripnas. So anyone about dbpoweramp and it's reliability with covers?
What about an ipod touch? 3.5 inch screen ?
Could someone think about a convertible netbook with a touch screen?
Which skin would you use? Sleek, and quite simple not too much black text one white screens?
Don't get me wrong. SC7 works OK for a blind person but is it sexy by the looks?
How to dress the baby to enhance it's sex apeal?

OK, I'll have a go at this. Why pay big bucks for RipNAS? Donít get me wrong, itís a great product in a small package but can get expensive for large collections. How many CDs does the guy need to rip? If itís fewer than 3000 CDs, buy a suitable PC and install VortexBox on it (or buy one from VortexBox all ready to go for $359). VortexBox runs SC and does auto CD ripping. Buy a video output card for the Vortexbox PC that matches the LCD input. Now SC is displayed on the big TV. Add a wireless mouse and keyboard and the guy can do everything from his easy chair in front of the big screen. If he has plenty of extra bucks he could have two PCs, one running VortexBox and another running WHS or HP Media Server to put the pics on the TV. If he has enough computer skills to use dBpowerAmp on its own, then just go the WHS or HP Media Server route adding SC and dBpowerAmp to the installed software. Many routes to take here depending on skill level and how automatic it needs to be.

As for album art with dBpowerAmp, it gets it right more times then not. Everybody tends to have some CDs that don't match or canít be found, for those few all one needs is a scanner or AIO printer to put the cover art in. The biggest issue I find is that most of the databases put the latest release cover art in. So even though cover art was available for most of my CDs, I had to scan in about 200 to match what I actually had (which was a little over 1 percent). Sure the title and artist match but it's not what I am used to seeing when I think of the album. Labels being sold and the new label wanting to update the cover art and make it their release cause most of these.

jaysung
2009-03-24, 08:12
Well, basically the guy must have something REALLY exclusive. And if he spends some money on it that really supports the feeling.
And ripnas was the first solution I found. Will take a look at Vortexbox.
But ripnas is silent and can sit in the same room. Making cd ripping a living room task which would increase to the selling points of the whole system.


depending on skill level and how automatic it needs to be.

It MUST be fully automatic and as I said the guy doesn't want to even know that he is using a computer. Computers are work music is relaxation.
Get the point?
Btw.: The Linngui works on a computer which could be connected to that Sony display. What about a Linn DS?
Album art browsing? Has any one had the chance to compare sc7 to linngui? It really should be straight forward and cost or brand or even a multitude of features is largely irrelevant.
It has to simply work.
I like SC7 for it's possibility to be adapted to taste and because it is open source based on standards like html/perl which makes things quite accessible for me. But SC7 always has a taste of a hackerish sort of feeling.

Nonreality
2009-03-24, 09:25
As for album art with dBpowerAmp, it gets it right more times then not. Everybody tends to have some CDs that don't match or can’t be found, for those few all one needs is a scanner or AIO printer to put the cover art in.
dBpoweramp gets probably 95 % of mine right. It might miss some of the odd ones or maybe a different version than I was thinking of as you have said. But then really all you need is google or wikipedia. Then copy and paste in Mp3tag. Then extract from your tracks if you want a copy of folder.jpg in the album folder.

sredmyer
2009-03-24, 17:05
Hello,
A friend of mine runs a business which is about hifi and home cinema. He has a customer who has:
a 40 inch Sony tft display where he uses to watch movies.
A decent hifi system where he now listens to cds.
He will drop his cds all together and
He will buy a ripping station with SC7 on it and a transporter if:
He can sit back in his easy chair and
- browse album art (preferably in iphonish cover flow fashion on his fancy tft screen in full size, select the album he wants and make the transporter play it.
The ripping part of it is well solved. The device rips cds automatically and even gets the so wanted album art in most cases.
We could add a computer running SC7 to the setup.
The thing I can not solve is:
How is the computer i.e the sc7 interface navigated in a way so that the said customer does not need to care if he has a computer in his hifi rack?
I am looking for something wireless. Perhaps something that even works without opening a web browser?
Have looked at moose.
Any ideas?
Cause if I present a good solution my friend might consider asking me an other time. ;))

Have you considered using a ripping service? Many of the comercial services use dbPoweramp. This would allow your user to have his entire collection ripped when the install of the hardware is complete. Instead of sometime later after he has had the opportunity to feed all discs into the RipNas.