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BrockStone
2009-03-19, 19:57
Hi there,

I am VERY excited to see we can finally get a streaming music solution similar to Rhapsody in Canada (come on Rhapsody, poor).

I fired up Napster tonight....and was greeted with muted sounded boomy music. I've googled around and poked on Napster's site but I can't find where they say what bitrate they stream at.

All I can find is this...which sort of makes sense from how horrible the streaming sounds:

Music - Napster offers a collection of over 4 million songs to download. They are formatted as Windows Media Audio (WMA) files. This adds compression and higher sound quality at lower bit rates compared to MP3 files. Napster music downloads consist of 192 kbps bit rate while the streaming rate is 32 kbps.

Just my luck...we finally get streaming in Canada, and it is quite possibly unusable...I find 32kbps unconfortable for voice never mind music :(

Anyone have any more information on this?

Mnyb
2009-03-19, 21:40
Are you serious 32kbps :-)

Wov, have folks been pleading fo ages to logitech to implement a music service thats streams in 32kbps ROLF .
And they expect money for this "service".
It is completely impossible to enjoy any kind of music at that bit rate.

Napster UK claim that they stream 128kbps ? thats more like it, this "ok" for radio
I can't check napster is not yet possible where i live.

jeebers
2009-03-20, 01:27
Are you serious 32kbps :-)

Wov, have folks been pleading fo ages to logitech to implement a music service thats streams in 32kbps ROLF .
And they expect money for this "service".
It is completely impossible to enjoy any kind of music at that bit rate.

Napster UK claim that they stream 128kbps ? thats more like it, this "ok" for radio
I can't check napster is not yet possible where i live.

It's definitely 128kbps in the UK. It sounds ok, not brilliant, but about what you would expect. 32kbps I would imagine sounds pretty poor...

simbo
2009-03-20, 03:35
I'm sure that 32kbps only applies to the Flash-based player. You can check the bitrate from your SB while playing a track from Napster.

BrockStone
2009-03-20, 17:54
Ah, I was poking around with the controller but did not see the ability to do that. Just looking now and it says the current song is 128kbps CBR WMA.

Hmm...

Ya the sound was immediately "muddy". I think they stream WMA here so 32kbps WMA is better than 32kbps with mp3, but still. Anything with any bass or noise (I tend towards metal and industrial) sounds like poo. Napster got back to me and said they do 'up to 128kbps depending on the internet connection'.

I will do more testing

andyg
2009-03-20, 17:56
It is 128k WMA, not 32k.

Mnyb
2009-03-20, 21:49
Ah, I was poking around with the controller but did not see the ability to do that. Just looking now and it says the current song is 128kbps CBR WMA.

Hmm...

Ya the sound was immediately "muddy". I think they stream WMA here so 32kbps WMA is better than 32kbps with mp3, but still. Anything with any bass or noise (I tend towards metal and industrial) sounds like poo. Napster got back to me and said they do 'up to 128kbps depending on the internet connection'.

I will do more testing

If you are speaking with Napster, ask them if the "do" something with the sound ? It's not only about bitrate. Radio stations including web radio is often enthusiastic contenders in the loudness race.
Maybe Napster is running you music trough some kind of optimod multiband compressor or something similarly vile