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Labarum
2009-03-03, 09:47
I have just set up SC 7.4 latest nightly on my laptop.

I set up my favourites. Radio 4 Long Wave is fine, but Radio 3 Radio 4 display no control buttons. If I click on the highlighted bar the fuller screen will open showing the URL and a play button will appear there. Sometimes pane is sluggish to load, and sometimes there is a comment about missing artwork (the Alien BBC icon?) The stations will play, and they play from the remote control hotkeys.

As I said Radio 4 Long Wave is fine. I have no other Alien BBC favourites.

bpa
2009-03-03, 10:05
Sounds like your broswer cache needs to be cleared.

Labarum
2009-03-03, 10:52
Sounds like your broswer cache needs to be cleared.

Thanks. I tried that. No difference.

My normal browser is Firefox, but IE displays the same error.

But what is your reasoning?

bpa
2009-03-03, 13:50
AlienBBC has no code for icon display or handling panes - it is part of SC. The menu entry for LW is slightly different to the other Live streams but are marked as playlist so play icons should show up immediately and you say they play OK on the Sb remote so the first thing to check is browser cache.

More info always helps, such as
7.4 but which build ?
which OS ?
Which version of AlienBBC ?

Labarum
2009-03-03, 13:55
More info always helps, such as
7.4 but which build ?
which OS ?
Which version of AlienBBC ?

Version: 7.4 - 25193 @ Fri Feb 27 01:05:22 PST 2009

Hostname: SamsungLaptop

Server IP Address: ??????????????

Server HTTP Port Number: 9000

Operating system: Windows Vista - EN - cp1252

Platform Architecture: 586

Perl Version: 5.8.8 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread

MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt

Total Players Recognized: 2

Alien BBC (v2.4a4-7.3)

bpa
2009-03-03, 15:41
I've just tested AlienBBC 2.4-7.3 on Vista with 7.4 25272 and on WebUI AlienBBC - BNBC Live Streams menu, the +, heart and play icons appeared on RHS.

I have assumed that the Internet Radio->Alien BBC->BBC Live streams menu is what you have referred to as "Favorites" as AlienBBC does not put anything into the top menu Favorites and that you installed AlienBBC using Extension Downloader and did not modify any files.

Since nobody else has described your problem and I can't reproduce it - I think it is an installation issue. With Windows some strange caching effects can happen and I suggest rebooting the PC first as this can clear odd problem users have had with AlienBBC. If no change, remove and re-install the AlienBBC plugin and again reboot.

bpa
2009-03-03, 16:41
OK - I have reproduced what yuou have described - if you use the "heart" on the AlienBBC Live stream menus - it create an entry in the top level Favorites.

This is really an SC issue. The Favorites menu item created by SC is a playlist so you have to click on it before you can play it. This is partially because you have copied an AlienBBC menu parsing item.

If you want a playable Favorite - save the BBC rtsp url for the station in question.

Labarum
2009-03-03, 19:13
If you want a playable Favorite - save the BBC rtsp url for the station in question.

How very confusing! I have done as you say and now have the display I want. Thanks you.


But why did the problem not exist with Radio 4 Long Wave? You said it had managed differently. Why the lack of consistency with adjacent "presets" in Alien BBC?

bpa
2009-03-04, 01:11
But why did the problem not exist with Radio 4 Long Wave? You said it had managed differently. Why the lack of consistency with adjacent "presets" in Alien BBC?


Radio stations often change the specific URLs they use for a station. Most web users do not notice as they just click a "listen" type button. AlienBBC takes the same approach - it access the web page where the BBC holds the station URLs - parses the web pages and extracts the current station URL.

This means if BBC changes the URL for say Radio 4 - your Favorite will stop working but the AlienBBC Radio 4 live will work as it will pick up the latest URL.

Unlike the main live URLs The BBC squirrels the Radio 4 LW URL in a hard to parse page and rather then spend a lot of effort developing/testing/maintaining code to handle this one URL - the actual URL is put into the AlienBBC menu. It is a case deciding how best to spend limited development time.