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ethan@audio-crusade.com
2004-05-09, 13:03
I can't tell you how dissappointed I am right now.

It's sunday and I wanted to listen to music while doing things around the
house instead I'm bitten by the upgrade, waisted an hour, have no music to
listen to and don't have any more time try to figure out what's going on.

5.1.1 ran fine for me out of the box on my debian box.

This really sucks.

Karl Auer
2004-05-09, 13:18
> It's sunday and I wanted to listen to music while doing things around the
> house instead I'm bitten by the upgrade, waisted an hour, have no music to
> listen to and don't have any more time try to figure out what's going on.
>
> 5.1.1 ran fine for me out of the box on my debian box.

Um, go back?

It was disappointing that such half-baked things as 5.1.5 make it to release status, but these things happen. On Linux you can swap versions in a trice, so just go back. The latest CVS seems halfway stable for the basics (playing MP3 music files and playing shoutcast streams in my case), so you could try that.

This whole affair does suggest that keeping previous releases easily available might be a good idea. Right now, anyone who doesn't keep their old version is SOL...

Regards, K.

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Karl Auer
2004-05-09, 14:14
> > This whole affair does suggest that keeping previous releases
> > easily available might be a good idea.
> they are:
> http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/ or
> http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/

And that link is on what page of the Slim Devices website...?

Regards, K.


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Graham Scott
2004-05-09, 14:16
This one...

http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html

> And that link is on what page of the Slim Devices website...?

Karl Auer
2004-05-09, 14:37
On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:16:46 +0100, Graham Scott <g (AT) hindsight (DOT) it> wrote:
> > And that link is on what page of the Slim Devices website...?
> This one...
>
> http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html

Can't see it. The downloads/nightly is there, CVS is there, but I don't see the link to the downloads directory. Can you be more specific (like, give me me the link text)?

BTW, even if it is there, this isn't what I'd call "easily available".


Regards, K.

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Ben Sandee
2004-05-09, 16:10
Karl Auer wrote:

>>>This whole affair does suggest that keeping previous releases
>>>easily available might be a good idea.
>>>
>>>
>>they are:
>>http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/ or
>>http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/
>>
>>
>
>And that link is on what page of the Slim Devices website...?
>
>
what a jerk. seems that there are more and more assholes lately
demanding immediate satisfaction to their latest pet peeve. for god's
sake already.

Rob Studdert
2004-05-09, 16:20
On 9 May 2004 at 18:10, Ben Sandee wrote:

> what a jerk. seems that there are more and more assholes lately
> demanding immediate satisfaction to their latest pet peeve. for god's
> sake already.

He's probably also pissed that his pre-pressed CD's don't come with a folder
full of pre-ripped Ogg/MP3/AIFF files :-(

Every problem I've ever encountered (in two years) has been attended to and
resolved in good time, that's a far better record of service than virtually any
other commercial entity I've dealt with in the past five years.

Rob
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Karl Auer
2004-05-09, 16:55
On Sun, 09 May 2004 18:10:39 -0500, Ben Sandee <tbsandee (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote:
> >And that link is on what page of the Slim Devices website...?
> what a jerk. seems that there are more and more assholes lately
> demanding immediate satisfaction to their latest pet peeve. for god's
> sake already.

I demanded nothing. I suggested that past releases be easily available, because someone else needed them. Someone replied that they were available, giving a URL. I looked for a link to that URL and didn't find it, so asked where it was.

For what it's worth, I put the user/group code into the slimserver (a tiny, tiny amount of work, but it wasn't there when I needed it, so I added it and gave it back). I report the bugs I find because that the only way anyone else will ever know about them. And "bugs" are anything that makes the Slim Devices experience less than perfect. For whatever else it's worth, I think that giving feedback is an important part of making a product as good as it can be, and small stuff is as important as big stuff when it comes to making the experience good for all.

And on the basis of one one-line post, apparently, you've decided that I'm a demanding jerk and an asshole. I think those comments say more about you than they do about me.

No regards at all, K.

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Karl Auer
2004-05-09, 17:00
On Mon, 10 May 2004 09:20:23 +1000, "Rob Studdert" <pdml (AT) swiftdsl (DOT) com.au> wrote:
> He's probably also pissed that his pre-pressed CD's don't come with a folder
> full of pre-ripped Ogg/MP3/AIFF files :-(

What the hell is your problem? Where does this spite come from?

But for the record, yes - I think that's exactly how pre-pressed music should be delivered, as it would save everybody heaps of time and make the purchased information far more useful. Though FLAC would be more useful than the formats you mention..

K.

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Steve Baumgarten
2004-05-09, 18:48
> I demanded nothing. I suggested that past releases be easily available,
> because someone else needed them. Someone replied that they were
> available, giving a URL. I looked for a link to that URL and didn't find
> it, so asked where it was.

I agree, you do kind of have to hunt around and do a bit of guessing.
There's a link to the most recent nightly; from there you have to guess
that the parent directory would get you to prior nightlies; from there you
must once again guess that the parent directory will get you to prior
release versions. Certainly it's not hidden, exactly, but I agree that it
could be a little more obvious. Some explicit links for each of the above
situations would be useful on the "Dev Resources" page, or even perhaps on
the Downloads page (or both for that matter).

I was once in need of a "prior nightly" and it was only that hunting
around and guessing that saved me from having to ask here...

SBB

dean
2004-05-09, 19:57
Our general approach is to provide appropriate links to specific items
that folks would like to download from our website. That's why we
put a link to the latest nightlies on our Resources page.

Even so, we don't block off folks from browsing around under the hood
to see what else might be there.

It probably does make sense to put a link to the whole main directory
to make it a bit easier to sniff around...

-dean

On May 9, 2004, at 6:48 PM, Steve Baumgarten wrote:

>> I demanded nothing. I suggested that past releases be easily
>> available,
>> because someone else needed them. Someone replied that they were
>> available, giving a URL. I looked for a link to that URL and didn't
>> find
>> it, so asked where it was.
>
> I agree, you do kind of have to hunt around and do a bit of guessing.
> There's a link to the most recent nightly; from there you have to guess
> that the parent directory would get you to prior nightlies; from there
> you
> must once again guess that the parent directory will get you to prior
> release versions. Certainly it's not hidden, exactly, but I agree
> that it
> could be a little more obvious. Some explicit links for each of the
> above
> situations would be useful on the "Dev Resources" page, or even
> perhaps on
> the Downloads page (or both for that matter).
>
> I was once in need of a "prior nightly" and it was only that hunting
> around and guessing that saved me from having to ask here...
>
> SBB
>
>