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Mike Reeve
2004-05-05, 09:58
Dean

Something else I have noticed for a while
[10.2.8, always the latest nightly, iTunes, AIFF] ...

What do you make of this:

(1) Start SlimServer
(2) Note that the home page says 156 albums, 2245 songs, 118 artists
(3) Browse to an artist ("the artist")
(4) Open an album ("the album")
(5) Note that the header says 1 album, 9 songs, 1 artist
(6) Add one song to the playlist ("the song")
(7) Start that song playing
(8) Open System Preferences and stop SlimServer
(9) Try to start SlimServer but fail
(because of my previously mention Stop/Start Issue)

(10) Reboot system
(11) Start SlimServer
(12) Note that the home page says 157 albums, 2245 songs, 119 artists :-O
(13) Browse to "the artist"
(14) Open "the album"
(15) Observe that the header says 1 album, 8 songs, 1 artist :-O
(16) Observe that "the song" is missing from the list :-O
(17) Return to Browse Artist
(18) Observe that a 'new' artist has appeared, "No Artist" :-O
(19) Browse to No Artist and observe a 'new' album, "No Album" :-O
(20) Open "No Album" and observe that it contains "the song" :-O

Mike

dean
2004-05-05, 10:24
Hi Mike,

This issue may be due to the fact that the song in question is already
on your playlist and probably doesn't have ID3 tags in it. Did you rip
the track with iTunes?

-dean

On May 5, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Mike Reeve wrote:

>
> Dean
>
> Something else I have noticed for a while
> [10.2.8, always the latest nightly, iTunes, AIFF] ...
>
> What do you make of this:
>
> (1) Start SlimServer
> (2) Note that the home page says 156 albums, 2245 songs, 118 artists
> (3) Browse to an artist ("the artist")
> (4) Open an album ("the album")
> (5) Note that the header says 1 album, 9 songs, 1 artist
> (6) Add one song to the playlist ("the song")
> (7) Start that song playing
> (8) Open System Preferences and stop SlimServer
> (9) Try to start SlimServer but fail
> (because of my previously mention Stop/Start Issue)
>
> (10) Reboot system
> (11) Start SlimServer
> (12) Note that the home page says 157 albums, 2245 songs, 119
> artists :-O
> (13) Browse to "the artist"
> (14) Open "the album"
> (15) Observe that the header says 1 album, 8 songs, 1 artist :-O
> (16) Observe that "the song" is missing from the list :-O
> (17) Return to Browse Artist
> (18) Observe that a 'new' artist has appeared, "No Artist" :-O
> (19) Browse to No Artist and observe a 'new' album, "No Album" :-O
> (20) Open "No Album" and observe that it contains "the song" :-O
>
> Mike
>
>
>

Mike Reeve
2004-05-05, 10:30
dean blackketter <dean@...> writes:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> This issue may be due to the fact that the song in question is already
> on your playlist and probably doesn't have ID3 tags in it. Did you rip
> the track with iTunes?
>
> -dean

Dean, Yes - Everything in the library is ripped with iTunes. Mike

Mike Reeve
2004-05-05, 10:36
dean blackketter <dean@...> writes:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> This issue may be due to the fact that the song in question is already
> on your playlist and probably doesn't have ID3 tags in it. Did you rip
> the track with iTunes?
>
> -dean
>

BTW are you saying that this is a 'feature' not a bug ...? :-)

dean
2004-05-05, 11:02
On May 5, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Mike Reeve wrote:
>> This issue may be due to the fact that the song in question is already
>> on your playlist and probably doesn't have ID3 tags in it. Did you
>> rip
>> the track with iTunes?
>
> BTW are you saying that this is a 'feature' not a bug ...? :-)
>

:) No, but it was my working theory. I need to understand what's going
on before I can make the "bug/feature" call. :)

I can't reproduce this problem here with the track you sent me offlist.

I assume that it does happen with that particular song, right?

Mike Reeve
2004-05-05, 11:15
dean blackketter <dean@...> writes:

> I can't reproduce this problem here with the track you sent me offlist.
>
> I assume that it does happen with that particular song, right?


Of course! :-) In fact it was the first track on which I noticed it ...

kdf
2004-05-05, 12:56
Quoting Mike Reeve <reeve_mike (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>:

> dean blackketter <dean@...> writes:
>
> > I can't reproduce this problem here with the track you sent me offlist.
> >
> > I assume that it does happen with that particular song, right?
>
>
> Of course! :-) In fact it was the first track on which I noticed it ...
>
>
Is there a slimserver.db file on your system? I haven't familiarised myself
with the workings fo the caching since its changed so much recently, but one
concern would be in dealing with the overlap. If you turned off iTunes, or use
the tag cache database, there might be some conflicts in there that we haven't
noticed as yet.

just a random thought from left field. I have not seen anything like this
myself in order to back up the idea.

-kdf

Mike Reeve
2004-05-05, 13:16
> Is there a slimserver.db file on your system?
> ...
> If you turned off iTunes, or use the tag cache database,
> there might be some conflicts in there that we haven't noticed as yet.

kdf

No slimserver.db - I have never turned tag caching on.

And I always use iTunes as the music library.

Mike

Harry McQuillen
2004-05-05, 23:10
I was having terrible troubles with dissapearing tracks in 5.1.5. Tried
updating to the latest nightly build and it seemed to get a little worse.
Albums were showing up with 50% to 70% of the tracks, seemingly
randomly. I use OS X 10.3.3 and iTunes, AIFF and recently Apple Lossless
(none of the dissapearing tracks were lossless for the record). The
tracks were showing up fine in iTunes 4.5 and playing just fine and were
there on the hard drive.

I decided to go back to 5.1.4. Deleted all my prefs and installed stuff
that I could find. (Feature request: an uninstaller). Now everything is
back and is playing fine. The problem in 5.1.4 where it says I have 0 songs
is back (guess the elf is on strike again) but I'd rather have an incorrect
track count than a loss of access to my music.

-Harry