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rags
2009-01-26, 17:10
the dream has been around for a while, being able to listen to my music everywhere. and controlling it from everywhere makes it even better.
and the bathroom is also part of everywhere, isn't it?
when you're sittin' on the throne, and for some reason a song you're REALLY not it the mood for starts playin', it makes your unloading business much more uncomfortable than necessary.
and how about a nice bath (perferably for two), a glass o' pinot and your favourite jazz or hard rock or yodel, or mix of all that, dripping out ouf your bathroom wall...

my answer to this was what you see on the following pictures...

basically, i built a reversed aquarium, put the squeezebox inside and screwed it on the wall. some silicone for sealing, and off you go. as speakers i use a simple logitech X230 2.1 system. its waaaay loud enough for my bathroom and seems quite "steam resistant". worst case scenario: i'd have to buy anohter pair of X230 for some 60US$, but my squeezebox is safe.

yeah... all in all, it's an expensive luxury, but thinking about all the time i spend in my bathroom... and when i get up and choose some music on my bedroom squeezebox, it's allready playin' when i get there to do the morning business. :)

iPhone
2009-01-26, 19:16
the dream has been around for a while, being able to listen to my music everywhere. and controlling it from everywhere makes it even better.
and the bathroom is also part of everywhere, isn't it?
when you're sittin' on the throne, and for some reason a song you're REALLY not it the mood for starts playin', it makes your unloading business much more uncomfortable than necessary.
and how about a nice bath (perferably for two), a glass o' pinot and your favourite jazz or hard rock or yodel, or mix of all that, dripping out ouf your bathroom wall...

my answer to this was what you see on the following pictures...

basically, i built a reversed aquarium, put the squeezebox inside and screwed it on the wall. some silicone for sealing, and off you go. as speakers i use a simple logitech X230 2.1 system. its waaaay loud enough for my bathroom and seems quite "steam resistant". worst case scenario: i'd have to buy anohter pair of X230 for some 60US$, but my squeezebox is safe.

yeah... all in all, it's an expensive luxury, but thinking about all the time i spend in my bathroom... and when i get up and choose some music on my bedroom squeezebox, it's allready playin' when i get there to do the morning business. :)

Please please please, tell me that power strip (or anything else that has power in there) is plugged into a GFI outlet and that it is secured to a wall twice.

It is much safer to build speakers into the ceiling and have the SB3 or SBR in the attic or an access way. Best to put on a Playlist that doesn't need to be changed while bathing or while using the throne.

Question for you: Where do most household deaths occur?

pippin
2009-01-27, 02:04
Well, _I_ _DO_ also have light in my bathroom...
As long as he doesn't mount it in the shower...

But I think I would not mount the SB3 in the aquarium, how do you get heat out of that? And also, these "sealed" installations tend to be only completely sealed against water getting _out_.

So my choice (I'm running a similar project right now, though you will beat me for that one if you see it :-) ) would be to expose my SB to as much air as possible to let it dry up fast.

nacmacfeegle
2009-01-27, 05:52
Nice work, but I'd check it against some bathroom and IP rating guidance...
http://www.toplightco.com/acatalog/Zones___IP__ingress_Protection__Ratings.html
This link is UK guidance but it should be applicable to your situation, also best to check your local wiring regs. I tend to share iPhone's misgivings over the security of that power strip perched on top of your shower cabinet (?).
The squeezebox experience is good, but its not 'to die for'.


I'm also considering puting choons in my bathroom soon as its due for a complete makeover. I'm thinking about putting the amp in the adjoining room along with the SB in a wee window (like yours but recessed so only the front plate shows), and putting ceiling/wall mouted spkrs in. This way the power is in a separate room altogether and I could always get at the SB from behind via a removable panel on the dry side, and it 'breathes' into the wall void. IR extenders should take care of volume, power button, and other amp interactions.

An even better option would be to get it all out of the room and control via a Controller, or dare I say it <looks over shoulder for lynch mob> get a sonos with a water resistant remote.

Edit to add:- a bit like this would be better.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/home-cinema-diy/494271-vista-media-center-false-chimney-breast-other-continuing-work-25.html#post7640924

pippin
2009-01-27, 10:30
If this would be a shower cabinet, I would agree, but to me this looks like a simple mirror cabinet, so as far as it's not too close to the shower I don't think it's going to kill you.
Good thing is, a lot of today's equipment is 12V or even 5V so you can just put your power supplies in a somewhat safe place and just run the low voltage cables across your bathroom.

iPhone
2009-01-27, 10:41
If this would be a shower cabinet, I would agree, but to me this looks like a simple mirror cabinet, so as far as it's not too close to the shower I don't think it's going to kill you.
Good thing is, a lot of today's equipment is 12V or even 5V so you can just put your power supplies in a somewhat safe place and just run the low voltage cables across your bathroom.

I can't say exactly where this is located, but I made my comments based on what he said about taking a bath and what to me looks like the far end of a Shower/Tub tiled area setup IE the opposite end of where all the water comes out in a tile shower.

And how cares if the devices are driven by DC, can you not see the power strip everything is plugged into? That would be 120 or 220VAC and a fairly quick death if it were to fall into a tub full of water without it being plugged into a GFI Outlet.

Don't get me wrong, I thinks its a fairly nice idea and install for the first try. But when it comes to AC in an area that was designed for water use, it is always best to error on the farside of caution!

pippin
2009-01-27, 10:53
And how cares if the devices are driven by DC, can you not see the power strip everything is plugged into? That would be 120 or 220VAC and a fairly quick death if it were to fall into a tub full of water without it being plugged into a GFI Outlet.


Oh yes, I agree. If that's the case (this being above a bath tub or shower) than this is really dangerous.

My comment about DC was more towards nacmacfeegle's and my own project.

ptrainer
2009-01-27, 13:53
Judging from what appears to be a medicine cabinet under the 'sub' unit, I highly doubt this is in a shower/tub enclave. I personally have a bathroom system and it is driven by an SBR and t-amp in an enclosed cabinet wired to a pair of in-ceiling speakers. The speakers are an all-weather design to handle the moisture. It's tidy looking too. BTW, I don't ever try to control the music when taking a bath... wouldn't risk dropping my iPhone in the water! :o

In any case, it's excellent advice to ALWAYS have GFI circuits on every power outlet in a bathroom.

rainjacks
2009-01-28, 12:48
Maybe there is a reason the OP hasn't updated this or responded to any questions. Rags?!!? Are you still there? Do we need to call for help?

SoulSurvivor
2009-02-01, 04:34
Hi,

Reading this thread with interest.

I too did a little bathroom setup, i bought some steam proof speakers from eBay and mounted it into some wallpaper covered MDF, and created a small shelf for the SB3 to sit on. SB3 powers the speakers with no additional amp.

Only plug is into the shavers socket inside the bathroom cabinet. MDF sits in the gap between cabinet and ceiling.

Pic is in this thread, last photo.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817&page=91

Its amazing how much music you listen to in the bathroom. And before you ask, no i dont use it whilst on the throne :-)

M

rags
2009-02-02, 04:07
hello everyone.
thank you for all your feedback, sorry it took me so long for answering. i actually moved last week end, so my setup changed y little bit.
@rainjacks... sorry... no, i'm still alive, you don't need to call for help :)

security concerns:
I understand your concerns... that cabinet is located over the throne, so the strip is about 1.5m above it. the power strip has such a short cord (20cm) it couldn't get into water contact, except if you actually sprayed water at it with the shower from the other end of the room. the power strip has protected connectors (there's a plastic protection cover on the connector holes, so it's not water proof, but better than nothing.
now that i have a new place, i will do that a bit better and put the powerstrip inside (yeah... it's 230V here)


@pippin', about temperature / moisture concerns:
i have had the things inside those aquariums for 10 months and checked everyonce in a while.
about your heat / moisture concerns:
moisture: i have never seen the tiniest drop of condensation water on the inside of the aquariums (i have two actually, one for each bathroom)
heat: the heat gets out through the plexiglass. i didn't have a thermometer inside, but i doubt i ever felt anything warmer than 30 celsius. and the system tends to be playing four hours and hours...