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Jim Willsher
2004-04-28, 12:38
Mark Bennett wrote:

> I've got to agree with Jeffrey. The outlay of $100 compared to
> several weeks of evenings spent ripping is a false economy.
> Soon hard disks will get even cheaper.

Believe me, I've beaten myself up all day over this, as I don't want to make
the wrong decision!

I'm currently in a difficult position: my server has a 2-port RAID card on
it, offering 160Gb disc. Of this, about 130Gb is free. I want this stuff to
be RAID protected, and I also want the option of backup everything up to
DVD. Another RAID card would set me back cash, as would additional drives.
It's a RAID-1 setup I have, so I'd need at least two more drives and another
card.

Tonight I've re-ripped a couple of albums and listened to them in flac and
in 320kbps mp3. I have to confess that I was unable to tell the difference -
such that I had to keep checking which one was actually playing! It wasn't a
blind test, but it might just as well have been.

Fortunately for me, I have AudioGrabber nicely configured and I have my
"discs.txt" file fully updated via freedb. As such, it's probably only a
10-12 hour exercise to rip my entire collection, which I can do over a few
nights whilst doing other things. Soul destroying, but not dead time.

So, I shall probably live to regret this, but I've had to opt for the mp3
solution. In a years time, when I finally accept that I've made the wrong
decision, I'll post back to this forum so you can all say "I told you so".
But hey, everything in life is a compromise, and for me it's disc space!

Oops...time to change the CD again :-))


Jim

Pat Farrell
2004-04-28, 12:54
At 03:38 PM 4/28/2004, Jim Willsher wrote:
>it, offering 160Gb disc. Of this, about 130Gb is free. I want this stuff to
>be RAID protected, and I also want the option of backup everything up to
>DVD.

I thought long and hard about this. And went the other way.
I bought a pretty cabinet to hold the CDs in their jewel cases.
I do not use Raid or any other backup of the music.

The CDs in their cases is the backup.
It took me about a week to extract all 500+ CDs,
while I was doing other work with other computers.
So while it was a pain, I considered my own time free.

So I just used a $110 per 200 GB disk and call it done.

But it isn't worth worrying over, pick a solution, do it,
and listen to the music.

Pat

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-04-28, 13:05
Jim Willsher wrote:

> it, offering 160Gb disc. Of this, about 130Gb is free. I want this stuff to
> be RAID protected, and I also want the option of backup everything up to

Just a note that real time RAID is not required for this
type of data that doesn't change very often. Daily or
weekly mirroring to an external USB/Firewire or internal
drive is more than adequate.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-04-28, 13:07
Pat Farrell wrote:

> I thought long and hard about this. And went the other way.
> I bought a pretty cabinet to hold the CDs in their jewel cases.

Mine are in an ugly cardboard box. :-)

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Pat Farrell
2004-04-28, 13:12
At 04:07 PM 4/28/2004, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
>Pat Farrell wrote:
>>I thought long and hard about this. And went the other way.
>>I bought a pretty cabinet to hold the CDs in their jewel cases.
>
>Mine are in an ugly cardboard box. :-)

Part of the price of squandering money on stereo, slimservers,
SqueezeBoxes, etc
is keeping the Decorating Commitee happy.

Pat

Jeffrey Gordon
2004-04-28, 13:37
Also to add, if you use linux there are some neat tricks you can do. I
for instance store my music in buckets (folders that contain up to 4.7GB
of data each). I have a script that runs after I encode the music that
files it away in buckets. Each bucket contains 4.7 GB of data so I copy
that to a DVD. As my collection grows it creates more buckets and I
just burn more DVDs. So I only every make one backup of a single file.
Since the file should never change not a big deal. Down side is the
music is not stored in a nice directory tree of
Artist->Album->filename. That is where my other script comes into
play. It scans through my music and create a tree with symbolic links
back the the bucket folder. I can then change my tree structure just by
re-running the script.


Jeffrey D. C. Gordon
jeff (AT) thetank (DOT) org



Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:

> Jim Willsher wrote:
>
>> it, offering 160Gb disc. Of this, about 130Gb is free. I want this
>> stuff to
>> be RAID protected, and I also want the option of backup everything up to
>
>
> Just a note that real time RAID is not required for this
> type of data that doesn't change very often. Daily or
> weekly mirroring to an external USB/Firewire or internal
> drive is more than adequate.
>

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Daryle A. Tilroe
2004-04-28, 13:49
Pat Farrell wrote:

> At 04:07 PM 4/28/2004, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
>
>> Pat Farrell wrote:
>>
>>> I thought long and hard about this. And went the other way.
>>> I bought a pretty cabinet to hold the CDs in their jewel cases.
>>
>> Mine are in an ugly cardboard box. :-)
>
> Part of the price of squandering money on stereo, slimservers,
> SqueezeBoxes, etc
> is keeping the Decorating Commitee happy.

Heh :). Know what you mean. But that ugly box is in
a shelf in a storage area in the basement so aesthetics
are not a big issue.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Donald B. Lagosz-Sinclair
2004-04-29, 04:26
And mine have lost their jewel cases.

That is, as I'm ripping, I'm pulling out the booklets and back covers; they fit nicely with the disc in the paper sleeves that you can buy for a penny apiece or so. So my entire CD collection will fit in a drawer.

By the way, this discussion has convinced me to rip the remainder of my collection to FLAC, instead of 256 CBR. Fortunately, I've only done 10% of my collection!

-:- dbls

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Farrell" <pfarrell (AT) pfarrell (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:12 PM
Subject: [slim] Ripping to FLAC


> At 04:07 PM 4/28/2004, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
> >Pat Farrell wrote:
> >>I thought long and hard about this. And went the other way.
> >>I bought a pretty cabinet to hold the CDs in their jewel cases.
> >
> >Mine are in an ugly cardboard box. :-)
>
> Part of the price of squandering money on stereo, slimservers,
> SqueezeBoxes, etc
> is keeping the Decorating Commitee happy.
>
> Pat
>


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