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Langsam, Andy
2004-04-26, 15:54
So where would one find externally produced plug ins. I realize that it is
inherently harder to stream rights managed formats however at some point the
number of rights managed users will outnumber those that are not and devices
like slim server will need to support it to have a broader and accepted
market. If that means you need to buy a plug in for a particular format then
so be it.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Coates [mailto:jack (AT) monkeynoodle (DOT) org]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] digitally rights managed MP3 AAC and WMA


> what about digitally rights managed versions of MP3 and WMA.
>
> With the explosion of people actually paying to download music that
> music comes with restrictions - can the Slimserver software deal with
> the issues that these protected versions come in?

via externally produced plugins, yes. Native usage of DRM-ized files
requires licensing from the producer of those files, licensing which is
unlikely to be available at any cost to an open-source vendor. Even if it is
possible to get the licensing into Slimserver, that would add a cost to the
software which is inconsistent with the "free software, for-pay hardware"
model that we currently enjoy.

Personally, I think this is a fine case of caveat emptor. If one is out
there buying DRM-ized files and expecting to be able to use them without
care on any device in the world, that one needs to have their head examined.

emusic.com and magnatune.com are just two of the vendors selling
non-DRM-ized files, more are available with a little research.
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Pat Farrell
2004-04-26, 16:21
At 06:54 PM 4/26/2004, Langsam, Andy wrote:
>however at some point the number of rights managed users will outnumber those
>that are not

Only if people buy music that has intrusive
rights management. If people decide what music to buy partially
because of what rights they get for their money, then
it is hard to predict what numbers will outnumber which others.

The initial Sony "pen MP3" player came out in late 1999 or early 2000.
It was very cool, a nice form factor. It had fascist DRM software, and
nobody bought it.

The reality is that Microsoft wants you to use WMA so that you use it
on a Microsoft Operating system. Same with Apple and their DRM.
There is nothing that would prevent someone from inventing an open
source, multi-platform DRM, RealAudio and LiquidAudio were in the
multi-platform space, and open source Cryptography is well established.

DRM, open source, and similar issues have been well discussed
over the years. I'm not sure that Slim Discuss is a fruitful place
to reopen it.

Pat

Roy M. Silvernail
2004-04-26, 18:18
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 19:21, Pat Farrell wrote:

> DRM, open source, and similar issues have been well discussed
> over the years. I'm not sure that Slim Discuss is a fruitful place
> to reopen it.

Hear, hear! Let's just say that DRM is an excellent opportunity for an
ISV and all the hooks are already there.
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Jack Coates
2004-04-26, 18:30
> So where would one find externally produced plug ins. I realize that it is
> inherently harder to stream rights managed formats however at some point
> the
> number of rights managed users will outnumber those that are not and
> devices
> like slim server will need to support it to have a broader and accepted
> market. If that means you need to buy a plug in for a particular format
> then
> so be it.
>
>

http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/amusements/alienstream/version3/
http://www.kolumbus.fi/jewel.tapsta/WmaStream/WmaStream.html
http://realslim.sourceforge.net/

Have fun!
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