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Pascal Hibon
2008-12-27, 12:03
There are now three options to use the iPod Touch as a remote for the SC. They all seem very nice. I知 looking for some users feedback on any of those remotes. Which one do you find the best and why / what is your experience with those remotes?

pippin
2008-12-27, 12:16
There are now three options to use the iPod Touch as a remote for the SC. They all seem very nice. I知 looking for some users feedback on any of those remotes. Which one do you find the best and why / what is your experience with those remotes?

iPeng is the best, of course ;-)

If you don't trust me on this (I wouldn't), here's the last thread for your question.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56876http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56876


Or you read through a few hundred posts is the specific iPeng/Squidgy/Squeemote threads:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56778

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073

Pascal Hibon
2008-12-27, 12:29
Thanks for the links Pippin. I値l read through them.
Just a quick question: what is your policy on new releases? Do we need to pay for each and every new release (bug fixes / new features)?

pippin
2008-12-27, 12:42
Thanks for the links Pippin. I値l read through them.
Just a quick question: what is your policy on new releases? Do we need to pay for each and every new release (bug fixes / new features)?

The current policy is that I will not rule out anything for the future since that would not be honest (you never know) but foreseeable updates will be free.
I have one specific update in mind that would require an additional payment since this would involve purchasing a certain license which I can not stem myself, but that's probably a while off if it comes at all.

This is also the general policy on the App Store. Currently you can NOT take additional money for upgrades, if you want to do such, you will have to sell the update as a different product.

So, for short: the next iPeng updates will be free, I committed to all 1.x versions.

MrSinatra
2008-12-27, 21:53
for those without ithings, how much are these three apps, and what can the two do, if anything, that ipeng can't?

Pascal Hibon
2009-01-10, 12:40
I read through the provided links and from all the information I understand that all three are good applications with their pro and cons. Since iPeng in the oldest application I guess this is also the most mature application. It has gone through the initial bug fixing phase. This is one of the reasons why I choose to purchase iPeng.

The application works very well, is very nice, and has an easy to understand and use interface. From the couple of days I致e playing around with it I found that it would be nice to have some additional features:

1) Add the capability to shuffle songs. This is the mode I use mostly with my SB in the living room.
2) Add the capability to configure the alarms. I use that in the bedroom.
3) Add an option in the settings to disable auto lock. This way the remote won稚 switch off all the times.

Are these already on the roadmap or do you think you could implement them in one of the next releases?

pippin
2009-01-10, 12:52
1) Add the capability to shuffle songs. This is the mode I use mostly with my SB in the living room.

I assume you are talking about "Random Mix", not the actual shuffle mode, right?
The shuffle mode is there today, you can select it from the "NowPlaying" overlay that you get when you tap the Album Cover on NowPlaying - just like in the iPod application.
Random Mix will be in 1.1


2) Add the capability to configure the alarms. I use that in the bedroom.

That's on the roadmap, will be in 1.1 or 1.2, probably 1.2


3) Add an option in the settings to disable auto lock. This way the remote won稚 switch off all the times.

This is already there. Settings->Prevent Sleep Mode

Pascal Hibon
2009-01-10, 13:08
I assume you are talking about "Random Mix", not the actual shuffle mode, right?
The shuffle mode is there today, you can select it from the "NowPlaying" overlay that you get when you tap the Album Cover on NowPlaying - just like in the iPod application.
Random Mix will be in 1.1

Yes, Random Mix is what I meant.
Do you also have a timeframe on those releases?



This is already there. Settings->Prevent Sleep Mode

Oeps, missed that one. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

pippin
2009-01-10, 13:25
Yes, Random Mix is what I meant.
Do you also have a timeframe on those releases?


There's a very, very rough roadmap here:
https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat

I don't yet know whether Alarms will be in 1.1 or 1.2 since I don't yet know how much own code they will require.

The schedules are for submission to the app store and no guarantee taken for them to actually apply.

Nonreality
2009-01-11, 02:19
There are now three options to use the iPod Touch as a remote for the SC. They all seem very nice. I知 looking for some users feedback on any of those remotes. Which one do you find the best and why / what is your experience with those remotes?All I can say is that I'm very happy with Ipeng. It works well for what I use. I also like the fact that the author has been here for a long time and listens to what people like. This is important to me as I feel he will take comments and requests into consideration as a long time user of our equipment. But on the other side of things, the apps aren't that expensive so why not support all of them if you are able to? I'm not at this time but in the past that's what I would have done. I had to choose this time and I picked Ipeng but I think the others are pretty good too.

SW4Peter
2009-01-21, 02:22
The fact that the aucthor is here and answers questions is enough for me to stump up for ipeng. I'll give it a go and compare it to my new SR.

:)

silverarrows
2009-01-21, 11:32
Maybe I've missed this but using either one of these remotes is it possible to do a firmware upgrade on a receiver? Typically with a SB you hold the brightness button for a firmware upgrade. If I just got the receiver and decided to use one of these remotes through the iPod Touch could I still do an upgrade?

pippin
2009-01-21, 11:36
Maybe I've missed this but using either one of these remotes is it possible to do a firmware upgrade on a receiver? Typically with a SB you hold the brightness button for a firmware upgrade. If I just got the receiver and decided to use one of these remotes through the iPod Touch could I still do an upgrade?
Kind of.
With your IR remote, you can set an option to automatically download firmware updates.
I'm not sure (maybe somebody else can tell) but I believe the SBR will always do FW updates automatically (no IR).

jgs
2009-01-21, 14:27
I'm not sure (maybe somebody else can tell) but I believe the SBR will always do FW updates automatically (no IR).

That is the case with my SBR. Actually I would prefer to be able to disable this (just on principle, I prefer not to have my devices change their software without asking me) but there is no option for user control of firmware updates AFAICT.

Aesculus
2009-01-22, 16:14
Maybe I've missed this but using either one of these remotes is it possible to do a firmware upgrade on a receiver? Typically with a SB you hold the brightness button for a firmware upgrade. If I just got the receiver and decided to use one of these remotes through the iPod Touch could I still do an upgrade?

The SBR will basically upgrade itself. I installed 7.3.2 yesterday and one SBR did it by itself. The other was blue and when I unplugged it and plugged it in again it went through the colors and then started updating itself (gray flashing light?). After a few minutes it went dark and when I checked the status on the web it was at the current release (58).

corbey
2009-01-22, 20:46
I'd just add that iPeng works very well in combination with the iPeng skin. When you need a function that's not in iPeng yet, it's easy enough to open Safari and use the iPeng skin.

SW4Peter
2009-01-25, 04:26
I have just downloaded Ipeng and my first impressions are that it is an excellent bit of software. I was planning to by a second Squeeze controller and will not bother now, thanks!

movnmik
2009-02-13, 15:16
I purchased iPeng yesterday as well as Squeezemote. I have the Duet and love its controller and was actually thinking of getting another. After working with iPeng, I won't have to spend another $299. This is a great app and will probably use it more than the Duet remote. Well worth the $9.99.

Mnyb
2009-02-13, 15:36
Maybe I've missed this but using either one of these remotes is it possible to do a firmware upgrade on a receiver? Typically with a SB you hold the brightness button for a firmware upgrade. If I just got the receiver and decided to use one of these remotes through the iPod Touch could I still do an upgrade?

Receiver is self upgrading, and with the latest bunch of fw for the SB3 (SB classic ) and SB2 you can change a setting to make them self upgrading to, so you don't have to use the brightness button any more after that.

nanckekr
2009-02-28, 19:55
I have an iPhone 3G and purchased the squeezemote application. I like it very much, but I am experiencing random wifi dropout where the wifi icon disappears from the iPhone and obviously then I loose connection to the server.

Hence I am unable to use this as a remote control due to the unreliability of the wifi connection.

I was wondering if any of the other iPhone remote application users are experiencing similar problems? My dropouts come randomly, and can be while I am in fact using the application. It can come 5 minutes after I start the application, but will appear within 30 minutes for sure. I have tried with two different wifi access points and two different kind of remote control applications (squeezemote is one of them).

Could this be a hardware problem on my iPhone 3G?

pippin
2009-02-28, 20:29
Could this be a hardware problem on my iPhone 3G?

Typically, it's the AP.
iPhone is quite sensitive about power saving routers, my old LinkSys gave me lots of trouble, I'm not seeing his whith my newer AVM one anymore.

If it's the WiFi-Icon it's highly unlikely the app has anything to do with it.

Luke Redpath
2009-03-01, 08:54
I've had reports from somebody using Squeemote complaining of the same problem (could even be the aforementioned poster). I'm not really sure how it could be anything to do with my app though unless its something to do with the persistent CLI socket connection.

nanckekr
2009-03-01, 15:52
Thanks Luke & Pippin for your replies.

I have investigated this a bit further. I see the wifi icon disappearing on the sqeezemote as well as on another remote application called "Touchpad Elite". However, I have no problems running the safari browser on the iphone for hours and hours. It never looses connection and the wifi icon remains there at least for the 3 hours I have tried to stress test it.

I have tested on two different access points, one from linksys and another from d-link. The behavior is identical - safari works perfect, but the custom installed applications are victim to drop out of the wifi icon.

Could it be that there is some system call that the custom build applications will have to do to prevent this?

BR,
Anders

pippin
2009-03-01, 16:04
No, in this case it is different from what I saw. I actually had (and have) most issues while using Safari.

Luke Redpath
2009-03-01, 16:14
Could it be that there is some system call that the custom build applications will have to do to prevent this?


Not as far as I'm aware; as I said before, the only thing that I can think would be causing it is the persistent connection it opens to the CLI.

Have you tried Apple's own Remote app? If not, could you give it a try (set it to persist the connection to itunes) and see if you see something similar.

Walleyefisher
2009-03-02, 12:09
I bought an IPOD Touch just for this app. I love it! Thanks.

Future release request - Please utilize amazon or cddb or something to pull the album art and lyrics for each song. I have most my music tagged with album art but it would be great to have it pulled off the net.

A great example of this is the sirius app Starplayr.